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In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 5:57:21 PM PDT
Kate says:
I am voting for Obama. Not because he is a Christian, but because he's the better of the two candidates.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 6:08:05 PM PDT
Bubba says:
I am not afraid of somebody or something that has never existed, at least not as Christians claimed. I am terrified of the actions of homophobes. I am especially terrified of the physical injury that homophobes inflict on gays and of the anti-gay legislation and constitutional amendments that are being effected by homophobes.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 6:08:23 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 4:35:41 AM PDT
Kevin Bold says:
You must be under the impression America must die so we can have "utopia."

Why else would Obama picked up where Clinton left off and have "Let China become the world's only superpower" as his top foreign policy priority?

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 6:11:22 PM PDT
Bubba says:
I am afraid that America will die so you can have a Christian dominionist government.

Posted on May 26, 2012 7:05:57 PM PDT
Anne Rice says:
I'm voting for Obama. I feel he is far and away the better
of the two men.

In reply to an earlier post on May 27, 2012 8:24:39 PM PDT
Blu Boy says:
Does your utopia include no gays? That's what I want to know.

In reply to an earlier post on May 28, 2012 6:56:22 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2012 7:07:08 AM PDT
JJB says:
right- while systematically sodomizing children is what????? right?

you and the rest of the catholic church really should shut up!

Posted on May 29, 2012 12:16:58 AM PDT
Georgedc says:
God Bless Obama!

4 MORE YEARS!!!!

:)

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 12:25:56 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 12:26:19 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
Sounds like a good reason to me Kate.

I think everyone should vote who they think is the better candidate, who will help our nation and the world most.

Best Wishes,
Shaamba Kaambwaat

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 12:52:08 AM PDT
Bubba,

Kinda sounds like another group, you know the one that wants there country to be ruled by "their" religious interpretation of their religious documents ... its a a a ... well you know they are a fairly militant group

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 1:28:02 AM PDT
AxeGrrl says:
Joel D. Harding wrote: "The compromise the administration offered was that Catholic institutions wouldn't have to pay for the birth control coverage, so clearly the "forced to subsidize" argument is wrong. Hope that's not more "liberal misinformation" on my part.

Since forced subsidization is not a reasonable objection, something else is going on here. It seems to me that Catholic employers want to be able to make it difficult for their employees to obtain birth control. Given that, why is it such a stretch to wonder if they would be in favor of an outright prohibition of using wages from a Catholic employer to buy birth control.

I don't see the First Amendment problem. Whose free exercise of religion is being burdened? No person is being prevented from believing or worshiping as they see fit. Some employers are prevented from imposing their religious beliefs on their employees. I don't see a constitutional problem with that.

I don't see the birth control mandate as an attempt to tell us what's right or wrong. Rather, I see it as a rational regulation based on the seemingly undisputed fact that providing birth control reduces overall health care costs. Nobody is forced to take birth control or believe that birth control is right or wrong. That choice is left the conscience of the woman who is making the choice."
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You hit so many cogent points here......kudos :)

And I'm guessing that it's the idea expressed in your _final sentence_ that outrages/offends some (whether they admit it or not).

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 3:32:20 AM PDT
Owned - "Forcing his health care policies on America certainly isn't Christian."

The OCA was passed as all laws are, by the people we elected. Obama didn't "force" squat on you.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 3:37:30 AM PDT
Owned - "If Obama succeeds in this, it won't be just Catholics who feel the ramifications but Protestants, non-denoms and all Americans, whether they are Christians or not. "

And what are the "ramifications" of paying for birth control? As opposed to the "ramifications" of funding the F-22 program, or a prescription drug benefit for seniors, or farm subsidies?

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 3:39:00 AM PDT
Owned - "We Catholics had advance warning that this was coming long ago. The rest of you are just now hearing about it. "

Well over half of Catholics support Obama. So the issue isn't Catholics vs Obama, rather that of conservatives (meaning, those who were opposed to him well before this) vs Obama. Meaning, it's just politics, masquerading as principle. Again.

Posted on May 29, 2012 4:32:35 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 5:17:59 AM PDT
JJB says:
it really would be nice if as christians - we were to not prostitute ourselves out to any political party

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 4:43:28 AM PDT
Avalonian says:
Not anymore they don't...

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 6:01:38 AM PDT
Kevin Bold says:
I'm not naive enough to believe we'll ever have "utopia."

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 6:03:10 AM PDT
Kevin Bold says:
I'm not a "dominionist."

I can't be, since "dominionists" are Protestant, and I'm Catholic.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 6:09:56 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 6:10:59 AM PDT
Avalonian - "Not anymore they don't..."

Sorry, I meant specifically support for the birth-control issue. I should have stated that explicitly. The majority of catholics, as opposed to the majority of catholic bishops, support (and use) birth control.

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/138896234.html

Posted on May 29, 2012 6:24:42 AM PDT
Kevin Bold says:
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In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 7:54:24 AM PDT
Bubba says:
My guess is that a great many Catholics either support Obama in this or don't care; you don't hear from them, though. Another example of why I don't understand why so many RCs disagree with the RCC on most things, yet they still support it.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 7:56:58 AM PDT
Bubba says:
homophobia
- n
intense hatred or fear of homosexuals or homosexuality

homo'phobic
- adj

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 12:51:10 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 30, 2012 12:53:44 AM PDT
JJB

I completely agree with you that we should not assume we must have allegiance to any one party. Every person has an obligation to think for themselves, hopefully after studying the issues carefully. There are talented and good people in both parties, thankfully. There is also a noteworthy amount of blockheadedness, and religion does not seem a sinecure, no matter what party we are discussing.

Posted on May 30, 2012 6:58:56 AM PDT
Brian Curtis says:
The fact that we only have two candidates to choose from is a disgrace.

Posted on May 30, 2012 3:46:59 PM PDT
Blu Boy says:
I'm voting for Sauron.
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