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Posted on Jun 30, 2012 3:27:50 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 30, 2012 3:32:43 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 30, 2012 3:35:40 PM PDT
Celsus says:
The Truth

"I regard Atheism as a mania. It is the malady of the age." - Jean-Henri Fabre

Fabre spoke those words 100 years ago, long before the evidence for evolution became overwhelming. Fabre was not a scientist. He had no formal scientific training, and he set himself apart from the scientific community, so he really had little clue what he was talking about - just like creationists today.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 3:38:13 PM PDT
Celsus says:
The Truth

>>I rest my case<<

And it was just thrown out of court. Cases based on invisible sky pixies generally do not fare well.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 3:45:31 PM PDT
@ celsus

my fault, i didn't know i was talking to a self made scientist. Who won't believe that a computer got there by itself, by the entire universe did!

"Both Religion and science require a belief in God. For believers, God is in the beginning, and for physicists He is at the end of all considerations... To the former He is the foundation, to the latter, the crown of the edifice of every generalized world view." -Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 3:46:06 PM PDT
Bohemian Man says:
Celsus,

We really should give "The Truth" a break.

I was once in his shoes so I know the mindset.

When you get all your info from the local Bible bookstore, you really think you have intelligent, slam dunk, answers.

It's only when you start reading outside the box that you see how silly your beliefs really are.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 3:54:08 PM PDT
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Charles says:
there was one on that flight whose time wasn't up. But now i see why you can't, oh well , there's always another life time.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 5:22:33 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
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Birutegal says:
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Birutegal says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 5:51:35 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
pja,

I am sure he would like to have arms and legs. Who wouldn't? But his faith in God through Jesus Christ has certainly made him strong.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 5:53:35 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
axe,

Get a little humor.

It is you who are ignoring research after research that clearly has pointed out that the religious give BY FAR AND AWAY the most to charities.

Am I surprised you are fighting the research? Not at all.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 5:55:50 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
I was speaking of charity and gave specific examples of charity: building wells, running hospitals and orphanages, saving prostitutes, freeing slaves. That was the topic...not animals. Unless you cook them to feed the starving in the third world.

I prefer to prioritize.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 5:58:45 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
If you've noticed, I've had my avatar played with and never get in a twist about it as you do.

Calm down.

And how would you know what Jesus is proud of? You don't believe he existed so you may as well be saying "[Santa] must be SO proud of you :)"

and your posts remind me of another research project....

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:02:25 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:04:29 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
bubba,

If that's your preference....

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:07:46 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
Celsus just does not understand the analogy. Actually, he doesn't want to understand.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:09:37 PM PDT
Birutegal says:
Celcus,

Another great example of your rage against God causing the confusion in your head. Fabre was addressing atheism, not evolution.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:12:35 PM PDT
I walked into my room the other day, and there was this computer there. I don't know how it got there in the first place; it must have just appeared all on its own. And the good thing is that, over time, it has improved itself, all on its own, to keep up with the changing environment of data and information. When I first saw it, it was a Z-100 computer. Then, it became a Z-286, and then it changed, all on its own, to a 486 computer. Now, it is a Pentium 4. I fully expect that one day, all on its own, my desktop computer will morph into a laptop, because it "knows" that it must be mobile to survive in today's environment. AND... The software brain that runs the machine has also evolved, all by itself. It once was DOS 6.0 software, but that soon evolved into Windows 95, then Windows 98, then Windows ME, then Windows XP, and finally, it has morphed into Windows Vista. And all of these changes came about with no master intelligence whatsoever..overseeing..the..process!

PJA. Can you not tell the difference between a scientifically built item and a self replicating biological organism?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:16:39 PM PDT
Bubba says:
conservapedia.com? really? hahahahaha

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:24:46 PM PDT
AxeGrrl says:
Birutegal wrote: "If you've noticed, I've had my avatar played with and never get in a twist about it as you do."
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What on earth has that got to do with you engaging in name-calling when you lecture OTHER people when _they_ do it?

The point was your hypocrisy and nothing else, so it makes sense you'd want to obscure that :)

Posted on Jun 30, 2012 6:28:24 PM PDT
Philip J Allen says: Can you not tell the difference between a scientifically built item and a self replicating biological organism?

Oddly enough, I can kind of see The Truth's point here, or at least one point he was trying to make. That point is, why *is* there a difference between a scientifically built item and a self-replicating biological organism? At one point in the beyond-ancient past, self-replicating biological organisms started out as inaminate, non-replicating objects. I think the Truth is asking that if evolutionists believe it be the case that these inanimate amino acids billions of years ago took the first evolutionary leap into life, why "lifeless" and non-self-replicating objects now like a computer or a toaster or a watch, do not do the same.

Of course there are many reasons for this and The Truth is avoiding some pretty obvious counter-replies (the most obvious being that many evolutionists believe that artificial intelligence *is* possible, we just haven't seen it happen yet; also, there could be a difference between biological and non-biological material that allows biological material to become life, but not non-biological).

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:30:17 PM PDT
Celsus says:
Birutegal

>>Both you and axe know perfectly well my posts were about giving to the needy; I made that very explicit.<<

You were also explicit in your dismissal of organizations that work for the rights of animals. I merely showed why this is the case, in accordance with your A+E fable where Biblegod gives mankind authority over them, to do with them as they please. Christians have been responsible for more animal extinctions than any other religion, and it is not difficult to see why, with people like you calling the shots.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:32:02 PM PDT
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AxeGrrl says:
Birutegal wrote: "was speaking of charity and gave specific examples of charity: building wells, running hospitals and orphanages, saving prostitutes, freeing slaves. That was the topic...not animals."
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Nonsense. The topic was "doing things for others", period. It wasn't restricted to _just_ the specific things you list above.

And if you DON'T think that contributing time, money and effort to things like child welfare, education, environment, health, and human rights constitutes "doing things for others", then you're either being incredibly disingenous or your definition of "doing for others" is _woefully_ lacking.

You made an ignorantly inaccurate and insulting assertion ("atheists, who do next to nothing for others") and now you're being called out on it.

Again, if you don't make such egregious ignorant assertions, you won't need to deal with people pointing out how ignorant they are.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 6:33:14 PM PDT
Celsus says:
Birutegal

>>No, the men in the fish were in much longer. You can google it.<<

No can do. I don't believe anything you say, so why would I waste time chasing up this absurd notion? If you have the evidence, present it, otherwise I will simply consider it just another of your many delusions.
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