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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:02:43 AM PDT
1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness wth our spirit, that we are the children of God

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:14:18 AM PDT
Hello Godain't. Peace of Christ.

You say>>1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness wth our spirit, that we are the children of God<<<

I see you've failed to print the scriptures I requested......You are repiting someone who was a
Literal Jew (Oneness Believer + Law Keeper, + Circum
cised) who turn into a New Spiritual Israelite a.k.a a
Christian...You are not, never have, and never will if you want to keep walking in the path satan has given you..

satan did the same to me for over 50 years, till The Lord revealed Himself to me...then I had to change from A to Z...Now I am His servant, His messager...

If you ain't a Spiritual Jew...then you belong to satan....read:

John 3:4 SIN "IS" (Not was as helldirth teaches and preaches) the "REJECTION" OF (HIS) LAW..=

3:8 Everyone who "PRACTICES SIN" (Rejects His Holy Oneness, His Holy, Spiritual, "ETERNAL" Law and His Holy Sabbath-Day with its Hoy Decrees, the washing of the feet (John 13:1-19 = 1 Cor. 5:7-8 + 7:29) the eating of the non-yeast bread (His Body) and the drinking of the wine (His Bllod) =John 6:32-58
And is baptized in His Name..Jesus..belongs to satan..
is this what your bible says?!!!

Jesus called some Literal Oneness believeres, Law Keepers, who were circumcised, Jesus said to them that their father was "THE DEVIL"..so it is with everyone who is "NOT GRAFTED" into the tree (Jesus=His Chruch)...You can continue believing what satan has given you, but Jesus gave you the truth today.....

God Bless........Brother James

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:17:54 AM PDT
now Brother James, we will go on regarding this. I am a child of God, i have heard Gods word, i have and do believe his word, i have confessed ( Jesus is the Son of God), i have repented, ( of my sins), i have been baptized ( emerged into water)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:19:35 AM PDT
Hello Godain't. Peace of Christ.

You say>>but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.<<

And He says this:

Heb. 12:14 Because WITHOUT 'HOLINESS'=
SANCTIFICATION=Baptism in His Name=50% of His WILL..1 Thess. 4:3 + 1 Cor. 6:11 + Acts 26:15-18 = Acts 2:38-40, the other time and place the people is SANCTIFIED=MADE HOLY By Jesus Himself is the Holy Sabbath-Day = Ex. 31:12-15 _ Lev. 16:21-31 + 1 Peter 2:12...Heb. 2:11= 10:36.

God Bless.........Brother James

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 1:20:47 AM PDT
I believe that the Bible gives us the answer. And that answer is not for speaking in different languages, or that it stopped years ago, but it serves as a communication between the individual and God.

This is what the Bible says: For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying. (1Co 14:2-5)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:22:34 AM PDT
Hello Godain't. Peace of Christ.

You say>>now Brother James, we will go on regarding this. I am a child of God, i have heard Gods word, i have and do believe his word, i have confessed ( Jesus is the Son of God), i have repented, ( of my sins), i have been baptized ( emerged into water)<<

Read your own bible..Heb. 2:10=1 Thess. 4:3-8 =1 Cor. 6:11 =Romans 15:15 +Acts 26:15-18 + 2 Thess.
2:13-15... Matthew 7:21 + 12:48-50.....Tell me what do your bible says...

God Bless..........Brother James

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 2:03:55 AM PDT
B. Josephson says:
Man, if I had some time I would read the posts of Jeff conversing with Santiago...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 2:11:03 AM PDT
Hello B.J. Peace of Christ.

You say>>Man, if I had some time I would read the posts of Jeff conversing with Santiago..<<

No..You wouldn't...you started to talk to me and you didn't even last one round....So! Just think and imagine what Jeff is going through, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh.

God Bless...........Brother James.

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 3:55:26 AM PDT
RealHausFrau says:
I'm going to piggy-back this question. If this is written in the Bible as a mandate or teaching of God or Jesus...why do only certain churches have great groups of members who speak in tongues? As someone who has been brought up Catholic, then changed to the Methodist church, I have never seen any member of any of the Catholic or Methodist churches (and even churches of other faiths) 'speak in tongues'..ever.

I hope I don't sound rude...I'm just truly curious. Yes, honestly, I don't understand the purpose, nor the process that this practice has. From when I've seen it on televised services or what not, it looks like there are a few traits that the churches who have this happening at every service, and have a wide range of, and many, parishioners that speak in tongues, share:
1. A very charismatic church leader-in fact, there are oftentimes many 'very charismatic'-even, almost unnaturally excitable assistant Mnisters, Choir Leaders, singers, elders
2. Due to the gift these leaders have, they can easily, and quickly, bring a congregation into a state of almost 'group' hysteric-type behavior.
3. When everyone has been led into a proper state of joy/excitability-the church leader or other church representative will seemingly chose the most vocal, crazy looking, or 'desperate-for-a-miracle-patron, even to the point of almost being obvious, like chosing seniors, or families with a loved one in a wheel-chair or with other health problems. Then they seem to work even harder to induce them into a hysterical/happy/thankful/God-loving state....at the 'right' time-they then deliver the person who *is* often, speaking in tongues, they take this person to the church leader, who is the ultimate for them, a smooth talker who says they are true children of God because of the tongues, that they are the best of the church-goers, highly in tune to God...all the things that *every other* person in that church, while happy for the person who's front and center, all the things thT they, too, want to be, and have told to them by the leaders in their church. This desire, alone, when shared by a large group, can inspire them to 'spice things up' by 'using tongues, fainting, yelling out thanks to Jesus type things, even dancing or singing. When this happens a whole bunch of believers who just want to reach that joyful, peaceful spot among God's earthy followers, in addition to Heaven-start to unconsciously imitate the ones who 'have made it there'.
I'm afraid that it feels hokey to me, false, and just mainly reactions spurred on by many steps. That being said, if it's truly God's wish, I'm glas people are open to it, even working towards it.

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 4:09:43 AM PDT
NeoPaganBaby says:
Koda basanda andanda de bo soto. Se row bakka.

You can learn to say that too! Go to....

http://www.weirdcrap.com/tilton/

Posted on Jun 12, 2012 8:36:26 AM PDT
Having been part of a charismatic church, I can say that much of the actions do look like hype and emotionalism...and there is some of that that goes on, but I can also tell of bonafide miraculous supernatural occurrences that happen in those meetings and the lives of those practitioners...So if one believes that supernatural acts and miraculous happenings to be God's stamp of approval, then I guess speaking in tongues is something many other churches could greatly benefit from despite the wide occurrence of abuse and misunderstanding of the practice. However, unless one has been part of the movement and been taught of the availability of this gift, then most are not going to be seeking such a gift.

My questions and doubts were many myself and still to this day I must admit it is something that I still have difficulty with...it offends the mind and intellect, yet much of God's word offends the natural inclinations of the flesh, so does that make it less legitimate?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 9:10:28 AM PDT
NeoPaganBaby says:
B. Josephson: Man, if I had some time I would read the posts of Jeff conversing with Santiago...
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Well save youself some time. Here's the condensed version:

"...eh!, eh!, eh!, eh. ......Brother James"

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 6:35:00 PM PDT
Hello Chelle. Peace of Christ.

You say>>I am a follower of the teachings of Jesus"

O.K..Print the scriptures for me where "HE SAYS" He abolished the Law, and sunday was His Holy Sabbath-Day, and He believed in a triune god, and that we Must be baptized in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit, and live a wicked, Lawless, sinful, life...

Go ahead and print all those scriptures, if not..then your god has been satan, as he has including me....

God Bless........Brother James
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