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Initial post: Sep 18, 2012 4:09:59 PM PDT
A Customer says:
What is Time? How do we define it? Some say it is the measurement of change within the universe. Where there is no change there is no time. Is a changeless being subject to the measurement of time?

Your thoughts.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:20:45 PM PDT
Banner says:
Only if this being is both outside of this universe and... didn't create it.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:26:20 PM PDT
A Customer says:
Why would the being have to have not created the universe to be outside of time? Einstein showed that time is intimately tied to matter and space, thus if the being created the matter of the universe wouldn't it have created time along with it?

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 4:33:37 PM PDT
Spin says:
Such are confusions and intelectual puzzles produced by folk who think "Time"is an actual phenomenon in the real universe...Given the difficulty in explaining "Time" and "Temporality", "Space" and "position", I do not think we can ever express the complexity of the universe to those who see the universe in terms of "up", "down", "left", "right" "black", white and "right" and "wrong".

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:36:30 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 18, 2012 4:40:44 PM PDT
Banner says:
Yes it would have. So I suppose, it wouldn't have to be subjected in the same way matter is....but...what would give you the idea that a creator could be completely detached from its creation? Is having the thought that there may be a changeless being enough?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:50:58 PM PDT
A Customer says:
I didn't say it was completely detached from its creation, just that it doesn't live under the contraints of time, which is itself a function of the universe it created.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:56:34 PM PDT
DocMMV says:
Time is a container to limit effects into and out of the containment.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 4:57:08 PM PDT
Banner says:
Hmm....fair enough I guess.

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 5:12:39 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 18, 2012 5:31:46 PM PDT
Spin says:
"Time" is a label you apply to your measurememt of motion. "Space" is term you apply to sense of position as distinct from some other position...Your concept of the universe relies entirely on youe expwerience...No wonder you argue with us objectivists.. (edited for spelling mistakes. My eagerness of argument is keener than my typographical skills. My mind operates faster than my fingers Nudge , nudge, wink , wink..=)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 5:17:57 PM PDT
Craig says:
Macheath says: "What is Time?"

A really good song by Pink Floyd.

I also like Time has Come Today by the Chamber Brothers

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 5:28:41 PM PDT
A Customer says:
It would be helpful if you replied to whoever it is you've been adressing so some of us know who you're talking to.

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 5:33:09 PM PDT
A Customer says:
If you could somehow ride on top of a photon of light, which obviously is traveling at the speed of light, which as we know doesn't experience the passage of any time, would you experience anything?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 5:34:00 PM PDT
S. Friedman says:
Time is that which keeps everything from happening all at once.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 18, 2012 5:38:03 PM PDT
A Customer says:
So without time RRR could post with all her sockpuppets all at once? Good thing we have this time thing.

Posted on Sep 18, 2012 6:12:39 PM PDT
It's soon.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 4:14:55 AM PDT
I was hoping this was one of your discussions, Mach =)

I don't know all the scientific explanations for time, but imo we should look at it from the pov of our Creator. As in, WHY did He create time?

Imo WE are the ones being measured by time, in a sense. We are given our various talents and abilities by our Creator, and we can either run with them as He meant us to - for HIS sake. Or we can turn our backs on Him and squander our limited, alloted period of time HERE - on ourselves.

And I say HERE, because what we do with the pearls of time He has given us, will determine where our permanent and neverending THERE is going to be.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 9:27:08 AM PDT
A Customer says:
Thanks Faith :)

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 19, 2012 3:11:42 PM PDT
You're welcome, Mach. =)

Posted on Sep 19, 2012 7:25:52 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 19, 2012 7:30:00 PM PDT
Jeff Marzano says:
One of my favorite theories is that people can be reincarnated into any time period past or future or even live the same life over again if for example they want to change something that they deeply regret. For example someone could die today and choose to be reincarnated in ancient Egypt.

If I recall correctly Edgar Cayce chose to repeat a past life experience in the American Old West time period.

Theories like this imply that the Earth is like a time machine. However the entrance into the time machine is birth and the exit is death. Between life and death there are no ways to jump into another time. Or at least let's say there are no ways of doing that which most people are aware of. There may be ways.

These types of ideas raise many strange and paradoxical questions. It implies that everyone and everything else can exist in an infinite number of possible futures which may or may not actual happen in this physical world. Repeating the same incarnation and changing even the slightest thing would cause a ripple effect for everything else.

When the physical body dies the soul returns to the spirit world where time does not exist. Although the statement that 'time does not exist' somewhere is not easy to understand for me anyway.

There are strange relationships between time and gravity. There's a facility in Boulder, Colorado that has the most accurate clocks in the United States if not the world. These clocks only lose a few seconds of accuracy over billions of years (if they could really keep running that long).

They took two of these clocks and synchronized them so they were giving the exact same time. Then they elevated one of them about 12 inches off the floor. The two super clocks got out of synch because one of them was slightly farther away from the Earth's gravitational pull.

Time does not exist in a black hole. Time is a result of the vibration of the atomic field. In a black hole the gravitational forces are so unimaginable that the atoms cannot vibrate. That's another statement I can write but don't really understand.

On the conspiracy front there are legends that a time machine was created during The Philadelphia Experiment. This strange activity, which later became the infamous Montauk Project, apparently started out as a purely scientific experiment but for reasons unknown to me it seems to have moved into the realm of the Satanic.

Jeff Marzano

The Lives of Edgar Cayce

The Truth About The Philadelphia Experiment: Invisibility, Time Travel and Mind Control

Encounter in the Pleiades: An Inside Look at UFOs
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