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Was The Virgin Mary Sinless or Not Part III


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Initial post: Feb 10, 2012 4:16:51 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Apr 3, 2012 12:50:31 AM PDT
Continuing our discussion from the original 2 threads...and the last one.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 4:20:06 PM PST
Reesey says:
Thank you, Kitties!

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:21:08 PM PST
In response to my post,
"You don't know where He resides, Jim. He can reside anywhere and everywhere He wants to."

J Hampton says,
"As I said, you should know that by now."

Oh, but I do, Jim. I and every Catholic posting in this forum.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 4:23:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 10, 2012 4:24:43 PM PST
Barbara already started a Part III.

http://www.amazon.com/forum/christianity/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx77WQHU8YS50Z&cdThread=Tx14ANDMYYHG4RE

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:28:56 PM PST
J Hampton said in the previous thread,
"What, you don't like the name of your religion?"

Jim, as I have stated before, I personally don't mind the term "Roman Catholic Church." However, as we Catholics have pointed out, we refer to ourselves as "Catholic" instead of "Roman Catholic." And that is the way we prefer to be addressed. If you cannot respect our wishes, then you have no right to call yourself "pastor" since a true pastor, even in disagreement, will respect the wishes of others if only as an example to others in his congregation of how to be Christ-like.

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:33:39 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 4:42:27 PM PST
Roll Tide!!! says:
''Oh, but I do, Jim. I and every Catholic posting in this forum.''
Then you shouldn't be saying He resides in a building

He lives in all those who are His Body. In every catholic Christian, not just Roman Catholics.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 4:44:26 PM PST
Roll Tide!!! says:
Everyone who is a Christian is a catholic Christian.
I am not saying Roman Catholic as a slight, but as a way of identifying your difference from catholic.

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:44:28 PM PST
I L Walker said in the previous thread,
"O - Yes, I did. I heard the statistics that 98% of Catholics use contraceptives,, on MSNB, I find that hard to believe. I was unaware that there were certain medical conditions specified by the Church allowing contraceptives. Where is that found?"

I heard Cardinal-designate Dolan speak of it on CBS This Morning. I think it was yesterday.

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:51:48 PM PST
Reesey said in the previous thread,
"Kitties: "Not always. There are certain medical conditions which require the use of contraceptives. I guess you heard about the lawsuit filed by EWTN as well."

Certainly endometreosis can legitimately be treated by high estrogen containing BC pills. But in this case, the "intent" is not to "contra" conception, but to treat a disorder.

What is the lawsuit filed by EWTN?"

You can read about it here, Reesey. It's in regard to Obama's mandate which would force Catholic employers to pay for contraceptives as part of their healthcare coverage.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ewtn-files-lawsuit-against-obama-mandate

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/new-lawsuit-challenges-obama-contraception-rule/

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 4:55:09 PM PST
Kevin Bold says:
Is this Part 3A, or Part 3B?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:00:45 PM PST
Roll Tide!!! says:
Pick a perpetual virgin, either perpetual virgin.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:01:11 PM PST
Reesey says:
Kitties, Oh, THAT lawsuit :)

Ok. Now I understand. I thought you were talking specifically about a lawsuit over using OCP to treat certain diseases, like endometriosis. I couldn't figure out what EWTN would have to do w that. But certainly as a huge employer, they would have a problem w the new HHS mandate.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:07:41 PM PST
Reesey says:
Kevin,

Lew asked me to make sure you see this web site, which accuses Luther of being a "Mary Worshipper" and a heretic:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Lutherans/luther-on_mary.htm

Enjoy....

(Posted on Part 3A and 3B, so you don't miss it!)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:09:56 PM PST
Kevin Bold says:
Got it. It's a hoot!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:15:04 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 10, 2012 5:18:23 PM PST
Reesey says:
Kitties: I am often misty eyed from the beauty and emotion of it all. It is truly very moving.

Reesey: When I was first considering going back to church, it was NOT going to be the Catholic Church. I met this non-denominational Pastor who was SOOOOO amazing. The Love of Christ just oozed from him, and I came very close to joining his church. In the end, I came back to the CC, after much study and prayer. Then, my son started school at the tiny little Catholic school in my town, and I started going to daily Mass at the Church there.

Guess who I saw at Mass EVERY morning? That Pastor! And he would actually CRY at the Consecration! I came to know he and his wife pretty well as friends, and a few years later, they were run out of their church and replaced. They moved out of State and I lost touch with them.

But I understood why he was always moved to tears at the Consecration. The Spirit often does that. Some of my friends call them "Holy Tears". That's what it sounds like you have!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:17:26 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 10, 2012 5:19:01 PM PST
Reesey says:
Isn't it? Can you believe they have come so far from authentic Christianity as to call the "Father of the Reformation" (after Hus and the other guy- what's his name?) a "Mary Worshipper"!?!?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:18:50 PM PST
Kevin Bold says:
I'm toying with sending the web master a post saying, "Anyone who's read the Canons of the Council of Trent can tell you what an unsavory character Luther was."

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 5:21:05 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 10, 2012 5:21:42 PM PST
Reesey says:
LOL!!! They would be horrified if anyone thought they were in agreement with Trent on Luther being a heretic! (Even though Trent never mentioned him by name). To be in agreement with the CC on ANYTHING would be anathema to them!

Posted on Feb 10, 2012 6:46:05 PM PST
So now are you going to fight over which is the legitimate "Was The Virgin Mary Sinless or Not Part III"?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 7:53:11 PM PST
JEM says:
J Hampton says:
"I see you reverting back to your confrontational style, and that is not what I want....
Everyone has "valid orders" to bring forth communion.... The communion meal is simply and beautifully proclaiming His death and resurrection. Every true Christian has the right to celebrate that."

I am not trying to be confrontational. You just need to admit that not everyone has to agree with you.
You state your beliefs and I have the same right. I do not have to agree with you.

You believe everyone has valid orders based on what you interpret . I Believe that is not the case based on what I read, and on the history of Christianity.
You cannot argue that you are right and I am wrong without resorting to your interpretation. On the same token I cannot convince you that I am right even though I read the same words you do and though I have 2000 years of tradition to back what I say, including what some people who were taught by the apostles say.

You believe everyone can consecrate the Eucharist "because it is a simple celebration". I, along with millions and millions of Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, Episcopalians, etc, believe priests have to be validly ordained to consecrate it. This is so important that even some Lutherans and Methodists claim a to have apostolic succession, because they believe they have to have "a mandate", as indicated in Acts.

We believe that authentic doctrine is received and transmitted, not just interpreted by every one as he sees fit. Of course, if one does not have an ordination, it is natural to claim that it is not needed.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 8:29:13 PM PST
Roll Tide!!! says:
You do not have to agree with me. But.....
''You cannot argue that you are right and I am wrong without resorting to your interpretation.''
And neither can you.
Yet, I have this, with no interpretation needed....
John 14:12-13
I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
NIV

It is the exact same Holy Spirit in every believer.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:03:10 PM PST
As I said on Luci''s proposed "Was the Virgin Mary Sinless Part IIII"

I move that this is a topic that we are never, ever going to resolve. The wounds that run between Protestantism and Catholicism seem very slow to heal.

Any one else move that we simply let this thread fall to the bottom and not ever come up for air again?

Clearly there were many examples of all of us getting so heated that we betrayed the very Christ that we all preach risen. Maybe this thread is a temptation of the very bad kind that we should all avoid. A temptation to keep opening old wounds that should have passed decades after Luther's time. A temptation to let ideas, theology, and our own self-righteousness overpower the people with thoughts and feelings behind each of the posts. A temptation to provide a bad witness to the world in our behavior.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:41:34 PM PST
It's just a continuation of the last two threads. :D

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 10, 2012 11:42:52 PM PST
LOL. When I heard about the lawsuit, I was like WTG, EWTN!
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