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Initial post: Dec 16, 2012 9:49:13 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 16, 2012 1:36:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 16, 2012 2:02:29 PM PST
you are wrong

one of the most wrongest poster to ever bloviate here

dont you have a pretend band to be recruiting for ?
or did you give up and leave tennesee for totoland again .

you used to claim to be a christian and youth pastor.
what happened to you ? nobody wants to be in the band you think you were told to form ??

from an old thread
http://www.amazon.com/forum/christianity/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx77WQHU8YS50Z&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx188PSERLQ3SFK
where you claim you are starting a band and wanted a young female to move to tennessee to help you do it:

here is a random post about you back then :

The Beast of Revelation says:
Shump, you just kept ignoring what [people] said. You can prove that you [think] know the Bible, and you can posture as a good person, and you can pretend to be innocent, and act the victim, but it does not change the truth. The truth is, you are self-pitying and manipulative.

You keep posing as a victim and defending yourself because you are full of self-pity. Your self-pity is in fact the reason why you decided to try to impose on, and manipulate, total strangers. We simply refuse to help you to be self-pitying.

Maybe you will find some co-dependent who will baby you and pity you as much as you pity yourself. But I sincerely hope not.

However, you have clearly found such fools to help you in the past, so I suppose that you will continue to seek new victims out. No, I am actting the victum, You are not around me 24 hours a day to see though my eyes, Are you? manipulative who? You? Please! If the best I have shown you and andthehorseirodeinontoo to be freak christian at best. Tell everyone, I'm a chrsitan, but I can make fun of people. No, That isn't what Christian are told to do........Also, I am trying to found work and God hasn't open any other doors me to do other than this. GEt that though you two big head. I have tried MCDonald's with no luck.........So, it isn't like I have a whole lot of jobs e-mail me or calling me. So, shut up for two min.

here is the first reply [shumpy deleted his OP for some reason but a similar one is on his web site]
Posted on Jul 22, 2012 2:32:48 PM PDT
The Beast of Revelation says:
WARNING!

I warn anyone against replying to Shumpert.

This is EXTREMELY suspicious, not to mention strange.

I sincerely hope that no nice young lady falls for his pitch.

This is definitely NOT the way in which one gets into the music business.

I checked out the webpage, and the text on it is illiterate, misspelled, chaotic, and rambling. As he himself writes: "You must help me with melody, Cords, beat, spelling." Note that he misspells "chords", then ACKNOWLEDGES that he needs help spelling!

Below is an example of his abominable writing. I have no idea what it means.

"They are a deer pants for God word

"So they soul pants for him

"A bible in their hands, always!

"They living for God

"They are a chosen people...."

You know, if he wants to save souls, then he can become a minister, perhaps a lay minister. If he can not write good songs, then he should not try.

The first song I ever wrote was 20 times better than his. Some have talent, some do not.

Posted on Dec 16, 2012 2:04:31 PM PST
his other aliases will help find his posts on other sites
yosep34
aka whiteshark
and other aliases and screen names

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:09:20 AM PST
you are wrong

one of the most wrongest poster to ever bloviate here

dont you have a pretend band to be recruiting for ?
or did you give up and leave tennesee for totoland again .

you used to claim to be a christian and youth pastor.
what happened to you ? nobody wants to be in the band you think you were told to form ??

from an old thread
http://www.amazon.com/forum/christianity/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx77WQHU8YS50Z&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx188PSERLQ3SFK

Without hypocrisy (505) (anuopkritos from a = negative prefix meaning without + hupokrinomai [see below] = to pretend, this Greek verb being a combination of hupó = under, indicating secrecy + krino = to judge) is literally without play acting, without playing the part or without hypocrisy.

Anuopkritos - 8x in the NT - Ro 12:9; 2Co 6:6; 1Ti 1:5; 2Ti 1:5-note; Jas 3:17; 1Pe 1:22-note. Notice that anupokritos is used as an adjective to modify love (2Co 6:6; 1Pe 1:22-note), faith (1Ti 1:5; 2Ti 1:5-note), and wisdom (James 3:17).

Anupokritos describes that which is unhypocritical, genuine (faith, love and wisdom in Scripture) and without show or pretense (pretense = a claim made or implied and especially one not supported by fact).

W E Vine has this note on the related root word explaining that a hypocrite (hupokrites) was...

"a stage-actor; it was a custom for Greek and Roman actors to speak in large masks with mechanical devices for augmenting the force of the voice; hence the word became used metaphorically of a dissembler, a hypocrite." (Vine, W E: Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words. 1996. Nelson)

A hypocrite is therefore an actor. Timothy's faith was not an act but was completely genuine, unhypocritical and without pretense or deceit.

Marvin Vincent explains that the related word hypocrite (hupokrites) is...

From hupokrino, to separate gradually; so of separating the truth from a mass of falsehood, and thence to subject to inquiry, and, as a result of this, to expound or interpret what is elicited. Then, to reply to inquiry, and so to answer on the stage, to speak in dialogue, to act. From this the transition is easy to assuming, feigning, playing a part. The hypocrite is, therefore, etymologically, an actor. (Greek Word Study)

In summary anuopkritos means "without a mask" and thus unfeigned, sincere, genuine, free from deceit, authentic, undisguised, without pretense or sham, "without dissimulation" (KJV) (dissimulate = hide under a false appearance). As alluded to above, in classical Greek drama, the hypokrites was the play actor who projected an image but hid his true identity behind a mask. Metaphorically and morally, a hypokrites (a hypocrite) is anyone who pretends to be something he is not.

The related root word hupokrisis (word study) meant stage playing, acting (histrionics) and hence came to mean acting a part in life, etc. The Christian's loving behavior should not be acting a part or wearing a mask, but an authentic expression of a renewed mind and a transformed life (Ro 12:2-note). A believer's love must be completely sincere, without hypocrisy, play-acting or ulterior motive.

The NIV renders it as ""Love must be sincere." Our English word sincere comes from the Latin word sincerus, which means "without wax" which stems from a practice of the early Roman merchants who set their earthen and porcelain jars out for sale. If a crack appeared in one, they would fill it with wax the same color as the jar, so a buyer would not be aware that it was cracked. But astute buyers learned to hold these jars out in the sun, and if the jar was cracked, the wax would melt and the crack would be revealed. So the honest merchants would test their wares this way and mark them sincerus -- "without wax". The word literally reflects what the Greek says here, "Let love be without hypocrisy."

Hypocrisy is exceeded in evil only by unbelief. The consummate hypocrite in Scripture, Judas, was also the consummate egoist. He feigned devotion to Jesus to achieve his own selfish purposes. His hypocrisy was unmasked and his self-centeredness was made evident when he betrayed Jesus for the thirty pieces of silver.

Love with hypocrisy is an oxymoron and is not real love at all. Sadly much of what masquerades as "love" in the Christian community is laced with the arsenic of hypocrisy.

A believer's love should not wear a mask, but should be genuine, sincere, and unaffected. Words are cheap...true love is costly...it costs death to self. Don't deceive with words but love with action. In a world where much that looks real is not real, love in the family must be the real thing expressed in action, not merely in words (1Jn 3:18)

Christian love is to be shown purely and sincerely, without self-centeredness or guile. However it is not love which simply manifests itself in affection for everything -- that is sentiment. Nor is it love which cuts everyone off in an attempt to be rigidly faithful to the truth and is harsh, unyielding, and difficult -- that isn't love. Love is a balance. We are living in an age in which this is the very spirit of the times -- to project an image, to pretend you are something that you are not. All the world system holds that up before us, through the media of television, internet, movies, music, advertisements, etc. Our society actively encourages to be something we are not. Thus even believers can deceive themselves into thinking they have love for people they neglect. Paul tells us that we must get beyond pretense-we must sincerely love.

his other aliases will help find his posts on other sites
yosep34
aka whiteshark
and other aliases and screen names

Update. I got my songs redone, Got a Melody without you help, and I have found a female singer here in nashville, TN and other band member. Remember I told you, it may just come down to you "EATING YOUR WORDS." Will, hypocrisy take you FOOT AND PUT IT IN YOUR MONTH. I am balming an "I'm Sorry statement for Evil words about me. you used to claim to be a christian and youth pastor. I am still Am, I have the men that you will ever be, and I can back up my claim of being a youth pastor with Picture at the Church. And it seems like, NOW I am back up my claim of getting my band up and going. I am so going to show you up!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:26:54 AM PST
in your dreams schlumpy

tell me when the tour starts and i will buy your cd at the concert

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 9:53:19 AM PST
andthehorseirodeinontoo?'s

in your dreams schlumpy

tell me when the tour starts and i will buy your cd at the concert. You just wait, In the mean time. Learn to shallow your sinfull pride, A PERSON who is claiming to be callled a Chrsitan, Should have no problem Omitting that HE was wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MATT 7:1-7

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 17, 2012 11:00:32 AM PST
what am i wrong about ?

you are the one who has the log stuck up their eyeball

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 6:30:55 AM PST
what am i wrong about ?

you are the one who has the log stuck up their eyeball. For starter, VERBAL ABUSED. NAme one time, I have called you a name. Second, ARE YOU HERE RIGHT NOW, Checking my e-mails, Got my phone in your hands, checking text message, Witnessess with your own EYES. Deut 19:15-21, You want to read. If No, to any of this stuff. Then you have wrong me and other. You have ZERO Evdience, You once claim your where a lawyer, Think about it.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 6:35:13 AM PST
you are so wrong about most everything

and are the epitome of a hypocrite

tell me where i can buy tickets to your bands tour

you were the one spouting off law as if you knew it
which you got totally wrong

better you keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to keep speaking and prove it to the world

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 7:21:52 AM PST
andthehorseirodeinontoo?'s

A new Tennessee law makes it a crime to "transmit or display an image" online that is likely to "frighten, intimidate or cause emotional distress" to someone who sees it. Violations can get you almost a year in jail time or up to $2500 in fines.

The Tennessee legislature has been busy updating its laws for the Internet age, and not always for the better. Last week we reported on a bill that updated Tennessee's theft-of-service laws to include "subscription entertainment services" like Netflix.

The ban on distressing images, which was signed by Gov. Bill Haslam last week, is also an update to existing law. Tennessee law already made it a crime to make phone calls, send emails, or otherwise communicate directly with someone in a manner the sender "reasonably should know" would "cause emotional distress" to the recipient. If the communciation lacked a "legitimate purpose," the sender faced jail time.

The new legislation adds images to the list of communications that can trigger criminal liability. But for image postings, the "emotionally distressed" individual need not be the intended recipient. Anyone who sees the image is a potential victim. If a court decides you "should have known" that an image you posted would be upsetting to someone who sees it, you could face months in prison and thousands of dollars in fines.

If you think that sounds unconstitutional, you're not alone. In a blog post, constitutional scholar Eugene Volokh points out just how broad the legislation is. The law doesn't require that the picture be of the "victim," nor would the government need to prove that you intended the image to be distressing. Volokh points out that a wide variety of images, "pictures of Mohammed, or blasphemous jokes about Jesus Christ, or harsh cartoon insults of some political group," could "cause emotional distress to a similarly situated person of reasonable sensibilities," triggering liability. He calls the bill "pretty clearly unconstitutional."

Another provision of the legislation governs law enforcement access to the contents of communications on social networking sites. The government can get access to "images or communications" posted to a social networking site by offering "specific and articulable facts," suggesting that the information sought is "relevant and material to an ongoing criminal investigation."

This section, too, faces constitutional problems. Julian Sanchez, a privacy scholar at the Cato Institute, tells Ars that "this is a lower standard than the federal Electronic Communications Privacy Act requires" for unread communications. More importantly, because Tennessee is in the Sixth Circuit, it is bound by that court's Warshak decision, which held that the Fourth Amendment requires the government to obtain a full search warrant in order to access e-mail communications. "That case dealt with e-mail," Sanchez said, "but there's no good reason to think a private message on a social network site is any different."

Rep. Charles Curtiss, the lead sponsor of the legislation, did not respond to our request for comment.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/06/tenn-law-bans-posting-images-that-cause-emotional-distress/

Romans 13:1-5

New International Version (NIV)


Submission to Governing Authorities

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 7:24:53 AM PST
you are so wrong about most everything

and are the epitome of a hypocrite

tell me where i can buy tickets to your bands tour

you were the one spouting off law as if you knew it
which you got totally wrong

better you keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to keep speaking and prove it to the world

So, From now. UNLESS You want to have a nice little talk with my lawyer.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/jocey.adkins?fref=ts I have know here since high school and youth group, Stop hassassing me and starting stuff, NOW! Thank you!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 7:46:13 AM PST
wtf
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