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Initial post: Feb 28, 2012 4:08:38 PM PST
did the Bible not show where Jesus put down the pharisees for all their made up rules ?

isn't that what every brand name religion is built on ? their rules, their interpretations and you better believe what they say or be darned to heck forever?

the original churches circa ad 40-50 without logos on their letterhead and not yet corrupted by secular politicians trying to use them to control people were right. all the ones now have lost their way.

RCs and southern Bs are leading examples but you could sell me on most any brand as being confused and misguided like the pharisees were.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 4:14:30 PM PST
A Customer says:
Where did the Bible come from anyway? Did the first leather bound editions just fall from the sky?

Posted on Feb 28, 2012 8:43:52 PM PST
irrelevant
what does that have to do with people twisting what the Bible says to make up their own rules and regulations that if everybody else does not follow then they are darned to heck forever

what is wrong with just sticking to what Christ Jesus taught and omit the made up addons

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 8:48:42 PM PST
emac says:
Didn't Moroni give the bible to the pope?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 9:00:11 PM PST
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M. Simonson says:
"Didn't Moroni give the bible to the pope? "

Any way you can bring the Galactic Emperor Xenu into that, 'cause I think he fits in there somewhere.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 9:14:13 PM PST
Whomper, Actually, the manifold wisdom of God is revealed through His Church, (Ephesians 3:10), the same Church authority that determined which of the over 75 letters written, were to be included in the new testament and which were not, and the same Church authority built on Peter the rock, (John 1;42) that put an end to all the debating at the assembly of baptized believers, since "Scripture alone" could not. (Acts 15;12, Matthew 16;18, Luke 10:16). Peace always in the Most Precious Blood of Jesus our Great God and Saviour

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 9:28:20 AM PST
@ matt --

and just which church would that be ?

certainly not the RC or SB
nobody gave the RCs authority except some roman emperor who used them to help control the citizens

if you mean the ones established in various cities ad 40 - 50 time frame
before the NT was written and the OT unknown by gentiles then i might agree

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 9:51:03 AM PST
Whomper that's right

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 9:52:17 AM PST
Whomper that's right, for the RC is not a church but an institution/empire

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M. Simonson says:
"their rules, their interpretations and you better believe what they say or be darned to heck forever"

I don't think they use the term "heck", but very polite of you. Denominations have denominational theologians that study scripture to decide what major tenets they hold, and what their view is on this or that. Depending on denominational rules they may or not be very strict in how much individual pastors and congregations can vary from teachings on those positions. They can also gather together in a synod or council.

I believe the number of denominations is in the 10s of thousands. This is a double edged sword. On one hand we are supposed to be a united body in agreement. But on the other look how bad it would be if everybody drifted into the same mistakes. It got so bad way back when that there had to be a reformation. Luther actually didn't want that (at least to start with). But there simply was no other choice.

Looking at the titles or "brand names" can be even more confusing. I know of one group that came from the Swedish Lutherans that changed their name and now have one of those "church of God" names. I had a friend that went to a Lutheran denomination that only has a few assemblies in the US and the Bishop is in Germany.

Then there are the nondenominational churches. These seem to produce the biggest bunch of bull the Christian world has ever seen. Some are better than others (some not that bad). Some of them associate with others and accept some authority from others bishops. It's just a big mess.

The move to get back to 1st and early 2nd century church is often called primitivism. But often this movement takes a big left turn and even produces cults. The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be primitivist and restorational; They also think that only 144 thousand to go heaven and most of them seem to be in Brooklyn (that's just gotta be wrong), other believers go to "paradise earth".

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 11:01:28 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 29, 2012 11:02:54 AM PST
M. Simonson says:
"The Catholic Church is the Church He Founded."

The Catholic Church is "a" church not "the" Church. Whenever the word "church" is encountered in scripture there are two ways it can be used.
a) The universal body of all believers in Christ
b) A simple assembly of earth-dwellers, which may include several small assemblies.

We hope there may a strong correlation between the two groups, but God alone knows how many of the people in the group who gather in the little building with the cross and the spires fit into the other group.

Just look at church history. It's all there. The wiki articles are rather good because whenever items appear where many are interested many jump in and make sure somebody doesn't say "The Only True Church is ______"

There never was a time when everybody accepted the idea that Rome was some sort of church center and Rome's bishop was the head of it all. The first problem with that is not the protestants, but rather all the Orthodox Churches. The Romans themselves didn't think this, it was an idea developed over time, and not early at all in church history.
Of course the whole matter drifted into some sort of "we excommunicate you .. no we excommunicated you first" argument.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 11:16:00 AM PST
No, the born again children are the church of Christ, which is His body and He is the head ...

Constantine paved the way in the Roman empire uniting "false nominal Christendom" with paganism...then later on The papacy was founded by the 10 way division of Rome, in which 3 kingdoms was plucked out by Justinian.

Posted on Feb 29, 2012 1:21:35 PM PST
Right or wrong, the important thing is to accept Jesus as Savior so you'll be heaven-bound and not hell-bound.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 2:21:11 PM PST
M. Simonson says:
"Right or wrong, the important thing is to accept Jesus as Savior so you'll be heaven-bound and not hell-bound. "

Sort of, but is salvation really just "escaping the fire"? And if I told somebody Jesus was a really cool philosopher guy with sandals and a beard, just say the "sinners prayer" what salvation may that bring?
Of course if I was trying to get money for a TV ministry I would tell them "now you have to call this number" so the fundraisers could get a shot at them.

We are told "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" and who is supposed to teach this word? Perhaps a duty of the earthly assembly of the church? This is the problem when Churches develop teachings outside the Bible, and that is the reason these ideas and concepts are under discussion.

Now days though we are so privileged to live in a time when the Bible is available and most of us can read. And also many teachings from the Bible are available, even on places like YouTube. But the believer or student must read the Bible carefully to make sure the teachers are not leading them astray. Because we are told that teachers will come and try to do that. And many of those in these earthly assemblies.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:11:47 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:13:21 PM PST
@ owned by kitty --

which catholic church would that be

not the RC
maybe the eastern orthodox one
not the indian one (name escapes me - senior moment)
not the russian orthodox
probably not the greek orthodox
yada yada

the only church that He founded was in the ad 40 time frame

all the ones with brand names have strayed from Him

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:14:02 PM PST
mrs exp says:
whomper,
We have to admit though that it isn't just in the Catholic Church that boys are molested, it happens in the Protestant church also and in secular society.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:14:49 PM PST
@simmson --

i agree -- mostly

but it is those independent ones without the brand name baggage
where there might be found a genuine Church that follows Christ
and what He said to do

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:16:04 PM PST
@simonson --

indeed

and they misinterpret the word for rock, the actual rock, and peter
to help them claim what they are not entitled to

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:17:13 PM PST
@ alex clark ---

and which emperor made the pope change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday ?

the RC seems to be just a political extension of the govt

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:17:56 PM PST
@carol thig --

Righto!
And that is harder to do when you get wrapped up in the bulloney that brand names think are more important than Him

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:18:40 PM PST
@simonson --

yes , but most people never read the Bible at all
let alone all of it

and they go with the nonsense other people spout off with

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 4:21:25 PM PST
mrs exp says:
whomper,
what is a brand name church?
exp
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