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Initial post: Dec 22, 2012 12:33:46 PM PST
DocMMV says:
I don't know how long it takes for this to kick in and solve the problem, so I suggest we get started right away and not lose any time.
1. When a mass shooting occurs, kill the shooter. Take his corpse and hang it from the nearest tree during the daylight hours until dusk. Take the corpse down at dusk.
2. Post the Ten Commandments in every classroom in America. Quiz the kids twice annually. Recitation of the Ten should be more commonplace than reciting the Gettysburg Address.
3. ??? What would you do?

Posted on Dec 22, 2012 1:30:32 PM PST
LDSaint says:
Doc I believe that having police with guns at the schools is a better solution. What you suggest will never happen.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 1:33:46 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 1:35:13 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 22, 2012 1:35:27 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
Will you also have armed police at every mall, movie theater, public park, and anywhere where people gather.

How to stop gun violence? Get rid of the guns. Don't turn my country into an armed camp militarized zone.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 1:39:50 PM PST
Iatric says:
Yes, make them illegal to get them off the streets. And I would suggest while we are at it, that we also make meth and heroin illegal to get them off the streets too!

Posted on Dec 22, 2012 1:43:10 PM PST
DocMMV says:
Ah, I just remembered...
3. A chaplin will read (as written) the Lord's Prayer every morning over the PA system.

Armed security would (hopefully) intercept a wicked man in action, but not eliminate the wickedness itself.

As for "getting rid of guns", that will not happen in an America with 310 million people. After the civil war such an attempt would cause, the remaining 200 million people will have to choose how to govern their new country.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 1:48:28 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
They already are illegal, or hadn't you noticed? Meth and heroine are not going to kill anyone but the person using them.

There will always be illegal guns, but the more "legal" guns there are the fewer guns in circulation over all that can be stolen and sold n the black market. Clamping down on gun ownership isn't the only step needed, better tracking and enforcement against illegal guns is also needed. But the unvarnished truth is that other western countries that have outlawed or severely restricted personal gun ownership have many times fewer gun deaths than we have here in the U.S. there is just no comparison.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 2:37:41 PM PST
M. Galishoff says:
Doc

I honestly don't know how to stop think kind of thing other than for us to pray for God's mercy. I think that we promote violence in our culture and desensitize people to it by repeated exposure. A mentally unstable person bombarded with these images is a frightful thing to contemplate much less understand. I don't believe either side wants these type of people to have access to weapons, especially ones that can cause this type of carnage.

And it is not a matter of putting God in the classroom. We can speak with our lips but not our heart and soul. If God was in all our lives, if we were a nation that truly feared God, then these things would not happen.

I think the NRA plan of putting a security guard in every school is untenable. It is too costly, I don't think we can find enough competent dedicated people and there is no guarantee that a person could plan around the routine of the armed guard and still succeed in their evil purpose.

You know we believe in God's Sovereignty and Providence. Nothing happens without His active or permissive will. Scripture teaches that God abandons the sinful to their own lusts (by removing his restraining hand of common grace) and evil. Where would we be if God withdrew his hand from all such people and left them to their own desires, unrestrained and uncontrolled?

I see these things as a call for us to repent as a nation and as a people.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 2:41:41 PM PST
mrs exp says:
S Kessler,
What can we do to make guns less attractive to criminals?
exp

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 2:43:41 PM PST
mrs exp says:
M Galishoff,
You think it was God's permissive will that 20 kintergartners be killed? I think that is horrible. God had nothing to do with this.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 3:08:03 PM PST
M. Galishoff says:
Mrs Exp

Yes. It has to be. God is not the author. But He is absolutely Sovereign and that means, by definition, nothing happens without His knowing and permission. Folks don't like to think of God in this way but this is our God revealed to us in Scripture which contains so much violence performed under His Sovereignty.

Our relationship to God and our sin are very serious matters. People often forget, deny or under-appreciate the sinfulness of sin and the gravity of sin. They also do not see God's long-suffering and restraining hand at work preventing many many more of these type of things. Left to our own sinful nature this is who we are - no better that Agamemnon shouting to the Trojans that they will be slaughtered mercilessly and their sons ripped out of their mother's wombs. What good in us comes from God.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 3:12:46 PM PST
A Customer says:
"1. When a mass shooting occurs, kill the shooter. Take his corpse and hang it from the nearest tree during the daylight hours until dusk. Take the corpse down at dusk."

Was that in the sermon on the mount? It doesn't really sound all that Christian to me, though I may go to an out of date church.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 3:42:47 PM PST
mrs exp says:
M Galishoff,
I do not understand God's permissive will. I don't see 'permissive will' in the Bible. How do you explain it?
exp

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 4:38:49 PM PST
M. Galishoff says:
Mrs Exp

By allowing something to happen by not taking action to stop it.

Posted on Dec 22, 2012 5:03:40 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 22, 2012 5:05:21 PM PST
Not sure why people are worried about these gun crimes, since they are of a low percentage of even happening. 300 million plus people and a couple thousand die. Very low percentage. But the media does a great job of putting these rare things into your conscious make them think they are a huge problem.

And having guards at schools is not all that new, since some schools already have police there to guard them (i.e. usually inner city schools). Israel also has their teachers armed. So this is nothing new to have it done, and it makes the kids safer since they know authority are around to protect them instead of seeing no protection around.

SCL

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:33:37 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
I haven't a clue. And that's irrelevant, anyway. What we must do is find ways to make it much harder for a criminal to obtain a firearm.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 5:34:52 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
And if that's what you think of your God, I cannot see why you would continue to worship something like that.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 10:22:58 PM PST
mrs exp says:
S Kessler,
Agreed.
exp

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 22, 2012 10:24:48 PM PST
mrs exp says:
M Galishoff,
I think God sees everything that goes on, on this earth and it makes him angry but we asked to make our own rules and he is letting us. I don't consider that permissive will. We have free will and we are making a mess of it.
exp
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