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"Talk of the Tome": Bookish Conversation Devoted to both Literature and Film


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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2009 11:29:14 AM PST
ronzo says:
dustman,

Where ye be with BM?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2009 12:14:38 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 23, 2009 6:36:34 AM PST
dustman says:
Hi ronzo,

I be right in the middle of Chapter VII. The partisans have just been issued the "dragoon" Colts and are on the march.

dust

Posted on Nov 23, 2009 6:46:23 PM PST
ronzo says:
Tomers,

Just to let everyone know that we are soon starting Thomas Hardy's THE RETURN OF THE NATIVE. Those interested in actively discussing our reads ... as we have done with THE MAYOR OF CASTERBRIDGE and are doing with BLOOD MERIDIAN ... are encouraged to begin thinking about a top 10 list of books they wish to read and discuss here. We will then strive to find some common ground between our lists and come up with a tentative schedule.

Sound good? I hope so.

Sincerely,

The Management (lol!)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 6:17:22 AM PST
dustman says:
ronzo and fellow Tomers,

What if everyone who wants to participate comes up with a list of 10 books? From the list of each person can be selected one title for the upcoming year. I suggest that either ronzo or the right honourable Thomas P. Malone put the potential titles on a slip of paper, segregate them by the person's name, and then pick one (as if from a lottery drawing). In such a way every participant will have one book represented. Not sure if this is a good idea, what do you folks think?

2009 is already accounted for as we are in the middle of "Blood Meridian" and set to go with "Return of the Native"

What say ye? Maybe a discussion of the books prior to choosing might be fun. I would certainly like to see everyones list. Whatever we do let's have fun. OK?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 6:37:38 AM PST
vespasian says:
dustman. Great idea. Ill have my list soon...ves

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 6:54:58 AM PST
ronzo says:
dustman (and fellow Tomeys),

Will you EVER have a bad idea?! lol!
As I'm having fun with the planning phase too ... I even had fun thinking about your lottery idea. I think it is a good one. This is what it has me thinking:

Step 1: Everyone who is actively interested submits their list of 10 books they want to read and discuss.

Step 2: We post reactions to each other's list ... that is to say, we respond with questions, discussion, and ultimately choose say ... a top 2 or 3 of the 10 from each person's list. That way, the books selected are more apt to be ones that the group is interested in reading most: that, and the designated 'lotto' individual doesn't have to make as many little ballots! LOL! Ah, there I am gravitating to the lazy.... : )

Step 3: The lottery

Step 4: Posting the results

What d'ya think?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 6:56:30 AM PST
dustman says:
ronzo,

excellent!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 7:01:01 AM PST
ronzo says:
vespasian,

I thought of you today ... going through my books, I found one called "The Bounty Trilogy" it has "The Mutiny" in it ... the last one is called Pitcairn Island ... I'm blanking on the middle title. Anyway, I remember you reading "The Mutiny" recently and thought I'd mention that there are more mutinous moments to savour, if you haven't already. : )

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 7:06:12 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 24, 2009 7:07:32 AM PST
Dustman, Ronzo and other Tomes

I heartily agree; the planning is a big part of the pleasure. It reminds me of when we were writing the parodies. There was much carrying on before we wrote. I think a book of those discussions would make a more interesting read! Yes, this is for fun.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 7:38:37 AM PST
ronzo says:
dustman,

Super! Looks like the list is the next thing to do!

If anyone wants to suggest genres/periods they like best, now is the time!

Posted on Nov 24, 2009 8:35:24 AM PST
ronzo says:
Kim,

Just read the first sentence of TROT'N: "A Saturday afternoon in November was approaching the time of twilight, and the vast tract of unenclosed wild known as Egdon Heath embrowned itself moment by moment."

Well, there we have it ... 'embrowned'! If we aren't thinking chocolates by now ... I hesitate to think what we're thinking of.... lol!

And it gets better!

"Overhead the hollow stretch of whitish cloud shutting out the sky was as a tent which had the whole heath for its floor."

So, a nice chocolatty base, and a fluffy white topping! If I'm the only tomey in the kitchen by this time leafing through the recipe books, looking for "chocolate feather pudding" .... LOL!

What is it with Hardy and his penchant for opening a novel with a tent image? : ) LOL!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 10:47:40 AM PST
ronzo says:
Well..., Wessex pudding a la ronzo was quite an experience. It is a bit like taking chocolate chip cookies and melting them down. LOL!

EXACTLY HOW THEY'D MAKE PUDDING TASTE IN WESSEX!!!! ha ha ha! Or maybe what I've made is chunky furmity...? I don't know.

But I've got a 4 year old here who helped me make it ... and can't wait to eat it ... and I've half a mind to run out to the quickie-mart and pick up some real chocolate pudding and splotch it into the muffin tins. rofl!

(I should have known when the recipe said to serve it with a vanilla sauce ... and some rum! Oh, heavens! I've just sold the family!!!)

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 12:24:40 PM PST
ronzo says:
Stumbled upon this site today ... it seems to have lots of bookish sharing too. And there seems to be some minor authors included in the membership; a bit of networking going on.

http://www.goodreads.com/

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 12:42:23 PM PST
Ronzo

RE: Chunky Furmity, and whatevers.

I do think I should include you in our next cooking segment as I see you have a penchant for culinary abuse, (that's the current series we're doing) too! Pudding in muffin tins...I've never had the guts to bake pudding, which is why I'm still doing a lousy paying cooking show. NO guts, really. I do like the vanilla rum sauce. I may need to get that recipe from ya.

Thanks for wetting my appetite just as much for the book itself. I have been racing around town doing errands and haven't read yet. We are getting costumes and wigs together, and I need to concentrate today.

The delectable visual in these lines for me it is the "unenclosed wild" (sounds ravishingly sensual) yet topped with a enclosing cover, viz., the clouds which shutted out the sky. So are our characters to be wildly free, or is the cover the master of them. I sure hope this doesn't mean the author is going to get in our way again!!

P.S. I love the picture of you and your little 4 year old making something in the kitchen. Our man Hardy does inspire so much, nicht wahr?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:14:44 PM PST
ronzo says:
Kim,

We weren't just baking that pudding. Oh no, that would have been easy. We baked it ... covered ... over a pan of hot water; we kind of steamed it! lol!

I'm glad you liked the poetically descriptive lead for TROT'N ... because it lasts for 50 pages or so. : ) And yes, our man Hardy is working with a new flow (it is softer and more romantic), but he is still himself. I look forward to some fun posts regarding his meddling! lol!

Look for our new book: "Thomas Hardy in the Kitchen" ... coming soon. In view of his tent bent could I write the chapter on the Hibachi?! : )

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:35:22 PM PST
ronzo says:
Kim,

Thomas was a pretty good poet too. Here is a selection from "The Dynasts". He really comes across as a grandfather of the Beat Poets doesn't he? (bongo accompaniment optional)

Wessex Pudding a la ronzo

Cookin' in the Tent
Recipe book Bent
My Wessex Pudding turns out like Cement
Throw it against my car ... it Dents
My sense of taste done come and Went
Makes me run to the Gents
Have to have a stomach like Clark Kent
Askin' my homies ... gravol they Lent.
Was such an attack viciously Meant?
Causin' the sinful to Repent
To the hospital Sent
I think I invented a new solvent.
The pudding was my love, and the spoon its friend.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:36:09 PM PST
vespasian says:
ronzo, Thanx. Yes, there is a trilogy. I read Pitcairns as a boy but I havent read the 2nd book yet...ves

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:40:23 PM PST
ronzo says:
vespasian,

No wonder you became naval ... being raised on "Pitcairn"! lol! How goes the recouping?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:50:53 PM PST
vespasian says:
ronzo, Better every day. layed a little one eyed golf yesterday...ves

Posted on Nov 24, 2009 1:52:14 PM PST
ronzo says:
Thomas,

Wanted to know how you found "Lucifer's Hammer" and "Oath of Fealty" compared to "Footfall"? "Oath" is in the hallowed Pringle top 100 ... and I have a copy of "Hammer", but "Footfall" seems to be many people's favourite....

I've got a copy of Footfall from the library.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 1:54:20 PM PST
ronzo says:
vespasian,

One-eyed golf sounds interesting. It might even improve my game; might stop me from trying to look up to see where the ball went before I finish the putt/swing. LOL!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 2:16:40 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 24, 2009 7:25:44 PM PST
Ronzo

Ok, steaming a pudding sounds right. I couldn't picture the baking deal.

As I thought more about the tent, the clouds or whatever Mr. Hardy calls what's covering the wide expanse of human possibilities, I wondered something. Do you think he struggled with the notion of pre-destination? Leaving man little else but a puppet in the hands of fate...it's possible. I know we had some discussion over the possibility of whether our Michael was capable of making character changes. (50 Pages! Gee....well, I suppose he couldn't help himself!!)

I can't wait to cook from your new book. Any sauce that simmers with a lid atop would meet with critical Hardy fans approval, I suppose.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 2:20:47 PM PST
Ronzo

Re: Hardy parading as poet.

Yes, indeed. He is deep. I had no idea...no way to get prepared...absolutely none. I really don't think the bongo accompaniment should be optional. I really think there needs to be a diversion!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 3:10:17 PM PST
ronzo says:
Kim,

Re: "Do you think he struggled with the notion of pre-destination?"

I think Hardy felt that the physical landscape helped to form culture/behaviour. (I agree with him there). But I don't think he felt it pre-destined things. So I think he asked himself, what did "cause things to happen behaviourally" ... and i think he was happy with the answer ... "your character". Still, I don't think that implies predestination, because for that there needs to be an absolute "driver" making things happen a certain way. I think part of his appeal/and part of your difficulty with him you expressed earlier, is that he doesn't necessarily have his characters follow the most rational course. Perhaps trying to undermine the idea that there is an absolute rhyme or reason for things; just his characters behaving according to their characteristics, in a setting that helps to form those characters, but the setting is not a dynamic participant, but lacks sentience and is simply wild and beautiful.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 24, 2009 3:11:59 PM PST
ronzo says:
Kim,

Re: "I really don't think the bongo accompaniment should be optional. I really think there needs to be a diversion!!"

LOL!
I think Hardy had in mind that the bongos would be played loudly ... so loudly, the words would be unheard. More of a mantra of recovery.... : )
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