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Favorite Symphonic Cycles - Nominations (no Voting Round)


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In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:28:50 AM PST
MCGLIP
Yes, I think you are right.
The 3 opus 0 quartets are included in the Angeles String Quartets recording. But of course buying a 21 CD for 3 early quartets might be overdoing it a little bit...

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:24:45 AM PST
K.J. McGilp says:
I would think that these early quartets are study pieces that Haydn wanted to keep separate from the rest of his output. I had not heard of them until now. Thanks Rasmus. Bruckner had is 0 and 00 symphonies. I can't imagine how many works of quality were destroyed by their composers in the name of quality control or study pieces. Brahms and Sibelius destroyed many works they felt were not quite good enough. Some composers works are given different letters or numbers, like Beethoven's Bagatelles and such.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 8:00:16 AM PST
This may sound funny, but Haydn actually has an opus 0 - some early string quartets.

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 7:53:24 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 7:58:34 AM PST
K.J. McGilp says:
Oh' yeah. Schleppenefart is very underrated. The greatest Half Symphony ever. Did he write one for wind instruments?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 19, 2012 6:00:06 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 19, 2012 6:00:37 AM PST
Ahmad says:
Igantz who?
:-)

Posted on Dec 19, 2012 3:01:16 AM PST
What about Igantz Von Schleppenfart and his 32 and1/2 symphonies?

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 3:44:58 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
I think I'll go through these top 40 in alphabetical order. Having another listen to the ones I've already heard. Or maybe another version. I was thinking of having another thread for the best Conductor/Orchestra recording for each cycle. I guess we know Gardiner is best for Beethoven. Will be hard to organize in one thread though but maybe too tedious to have 40 threads on it.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 3:23:37 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
Seriously, why put them against each other? I'm happy with going through these 40 Cycles (might take years) on my own pace. They all add something to the subgenre. Does Aho need to be on the list as well as just being forgotten?

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:56:59 PM PST
Non voting game!

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 2:25:12 PM PST
KenOC says:
Yep. So let's vote.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:08:45 PM PST
MacDoom says:
Looks like 40 to me!

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 2:03:15 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
Seconded:

Beethoven (9 Symphonies)
Berlioz 4 Symphonies
Berwald 4 Symphonies
Brahms 4 symphonies
Bruckner 9 (11) symphonies

Dvorak (9)
Gade (8 Symphonies)
Glazunov (8)
Hanson 7 Symphonies
Haydn 104 (106) symphonies

Hindemith 6 Symphonies
Honegger 5 Symphonies
Hovhaness - 67 Symphonies
Lutoslawski: 4 Symphonies
Magnard 4 Symphonies

Mahler 9(10) symphonies.
Martinu 6 Symphonies
Mendelssohn (5 Symphonies)
Mozart 41 (40) symphonies (plus another 20 possibilities: see Wiki listing
Myaskovsky (27 symphonies)

Nielsen 6 symphonies
Norgard 8 Symphonies
Part 4 Symphonies
Penderecki 8 Symphonies
Prokofiev (7 Symphonies)

Rachmaninov 4 Symphonies
Raff - 11 Symphonies
Rautavaara - 8 Symphonies
Roussel 4 Symphonies
Rubbra - Complete Symphonies

Schmidt - 4 Symphonies
Schnittke - 10 Symphonies
Schumann 4 Symphonies
Schubert - 8 Symphonies
Shostakovich (15 symphonies)

Sibelius (7 Symphonies)
Stravinsky 4 Symphonies
Tchaikovsky (6 Symphonies)
Tubin 10 Symphonies
Vaughan Williams -- Nos. 1-9

Nominees:

Alfvén (5)
Alwyn (5)
Kancheli - 7 Symphonies
Piston 8 Symphonies
Saint-Saens - 5 Symphonies
Scriabin - 4 Symphonies
Segerstam (258 symphonies and counting)
Weinberg 20 (25) Symphonies

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 1:55:58 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 2:00:31 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
just added Rachmaninov to the Seconded list. Still no Aho if someone wants to vote him in. I don't mean to be a Aho about this. lol Actually we got 40 but I'll push it to 45.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 1:54:02 PM PST
Skaynan says:
I did, a few posts back. But nm.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 1:52:37 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
No one nominated him.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 1:52:08 PM PST
Skaynan says:
Re-nominating Rachmaninov

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 1:47:04 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 1:49:37 PM PST
KenOC says:
Second Berwald (yeah!) and Hanson.

BTW where's Aho? Did he fall between the slats? 15 symphonies, or 18 if you include the chamber symphonies...

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 1:41:25 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 1:54:20 PM PST
J. Nelson says:
Seconded:

Beethoven (9 Symphonies)
Berlioz 4 Symphonies
Brahms 4 symphonies
Bruckner 9 (11) symphonies.
Dvorak (9)

Gade (8 Symphonies)
Glazunov (8)
Haydn 104 (106) symphonies
Hindemith 6 Symphonies
Honegger 5 Symphonies

Hovhaness - 67 Symphonies
Lutoslawski: 4 Symphonies
Magnard 4 Symphonies
Mahler 9(10) symphonies.
Martinu 6 Symphonies

Mendelssohn (5 Symphonies)
Mozart 41 (40) symphonies (plus another 20 possibilities: see Wiki listing
Myaskovsky (27 symphonies)
Nielsen 6 symphonies
Norgard 8 Symphonies

Part 4 Symphonies
Penderecki 8 Symphonies
Prokofiev (7 Symphonies)
Rachmaninov 4 Symphonies
Raff - 11 Symphonies

Rautavaara - 8 Symphonies
Roussel 4 Symphonies
Rubbra - Complete Symphonies
Schmidt - 4 Symphonies
Schnittke - 10 Symphonies

Schumann 4 Symphonies
Schubert - 8 Symphonies
Shostakovich (15 symphonies)
Sibelius (7 Symphonies)

Stravinsky 4 Symphonies
Tchaikovsky (6 Symphonies)
Tubin 10 Symphonies
Vaughan Williams -- Nos. 1-9

Nominees:

Alfvén (5)
Alwyn (5)
Berwald (4)
Hanson (7)
Kancheli - 7 Symphonies
Piston 8 Symphonies
Saint-Saens - 5 Symphonies
Scriabin - 4 Symphonies
Segerstam (258 symphonies and counting)
Weinberg 20 (25) Symphonies

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 11:13:13 AM PST
KenOC says:
Believe last time we did this, Berlioz was allowed. He would have thrown a fit otherwise.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 11:11:23 AM PST
has berlioz been discussed?
the symphony fantastique and "grande symphonie et triomphale" are two obvious ones.
However, check out this :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_en_Italie

Harold en Italie, Symphonie en quatre parties avec un alto principal (English: Harold in Italy, Symphony in Four Parts with Viola Obbligato).

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom%C3%A9o_et_Juliette_(Berlioz)
Handbill advertising the first performance of Roméo et Juliette.
clearly calls it a 'dramatic symphony'

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 11:03:40 AM PST
MacDoom says:
If Scriabin is smuggled in on the back of a symphonic poem (and I'm not against!), then Rachmaninov should not be ousted (think symphonic dances, more of an unfinished symphony altogether).

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 10:58:52 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 11:04:00 AM PST
I'm gonna second these two dudes,
I went through both their cycles within the last month.
(during a dutoit kick)
Honegger Symphonies 1-5 / Pacific 231 / Rugby
Roussel: Symphonies 1-4

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 9:34:06 AM PST
J. Nelson says:
I misread it as Psalms in C. My bad. Still very short for a cycle but I'll count it regardless.

Posted on Dec 18, 2012 9:30:39 AM PST
Count again.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 18, 2012 9:10:01 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Dec 18, 2012 9:30:41 AM PST
J. Nelson says:
That is 3. You need 4 Symphonies to make the list. Unless there is a hidden Symphony of Stravinsky's I don't know of. Stavinsky's recordings usually only have 3. 3 doesn't feel like a cycle to me at least. Especially since it all fits on one cd.
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