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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 12:09:43 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 3:35:56 PM PDT
Tero says:
You can actually get that label cheaper than at Amazon. The whole London set has lots of conductors and famous symphonies etc. I have the Planets one. They used to sell about 5 dollars a piece at Borders before it closed.

Oops, wrong orchestra. But the LSO does have a label with some distribution.

The 5 dollar ones are all Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 3:00:30 PM PDT
Edgar Self says:
Ville, I really mangled all those Finnish names. It was hot, and I was lazy, trying to type them from memory. I'll try to get you the names of the Finnis soprano and tenor (?) who sang the complete Kullervo here. You're English puts us all to shame.

P. S. Kuovala is a work Sibelius is still working on. Patience!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 4:09:55 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 4:10:43 PM PDT
Tero says:
I'll try to remember, they take up to 30 days to ship used.

Just ordered Gibson's 1 and 4 and 3, 6 plus 7 on two discs, Chandos.

The old Wigwam, or very close, can be heard with Jukka Gustavson band live. Pohjola is of course dead but...

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 11:04:05 PM PDT
Tero, before others are going to be frustrated with our Wigwam-Gustavsson-Pohjola -conversation I'll just say this one thing: I bet You're right, I heard Gustavsson band about 15 years ago and it is one of the best concerts I've never attended.

For bringing all this to a more universal level I must explain that the late Pekka Pohjola was a former bassist in Finnish progressive rock band named Wigwam (active 1968-80 and 1991-?) and also jazz musician and composer of two symphonies.
He was also a member of Finnish music dynasty Pohjolas, a cousin to conductor Sakari Oramo and the Symphonist Seppo Pohjola, whose latest, 3rd symphony was just premiered by the cousin Sakari Oramo in the latter's farewell concert from his post of prime conductor of Finnish RSO, the concert which I also attended. Seppo's father was the famous choral conductor Erkki Pohjola.
You can hear the old Pohjolas, the siblings Liisa (a pianist, Oramos' mother), Ensti (Pekka's father) and Paavo Pohjola playing on a BIS disc titled 'Finnish Chamber Music' eg Toivo Kuula's great piano trio, op.7. It is a very ambitious 45 min. work of rough beauty from the young composer who died far too early, and this the only recording of it.
Toivo Kuula was one of the just two composing students that Sibelius never had (along with Leevi Madetoja). So we have the connection to Sibelius here after all!

Piso, You of course mean BARITONE and sopran (the solists of Kullervo.)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 2:37:47 AM PDT
Tero says:
Pekka, the bassist virtuoso, was training to be a violinist, and almost got to university level playing. He only plays the violin on a few cuts. He also played piano but never liked it all that much. Of the Wigwam band, he was the only one able to arrange for orchestra parts.

Anyway, when younger, he had rigged a cello in the house to practice it as a bass, as his parents would not buy an electric bass. He would practice bass lines of Beatles songs on that. There are a few CDs on sale here once in a while:
Mathematician's Air Display
That one was with Mike Oldfield.

Back to Sibelius, just finished the biography for the second time. He resisted the performance and printing of Kullervo during his life. He knew they would do it after his death, but at that point he did not care to hear criticism. I think I got the Berglund LPs in the 70s, but nearly all my classical LPs are gone, in several moves. I remember the cover well, it had Kullervo riding off to war. I was visiting Finland 1975 for 2 months and had to go see the famous Kalevala paintings in the national gallery.

Posted on Jul 4, 2012 9:52:19 AM PDT
Tero, You said You were visiting Finland in 1975?! And after that, no?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 10:04:16 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 5, 2012 7:04:02 PM PDT
Tero says:
I've lived here 40 years. I lived in Finland on and off but not past lukio (starts at age 16).

I was back in the 75 summer for a longer trip, just when Finnish rock was coming into form, Juice and Eput.

My kids are able to study and live in Finland, so my son, who still has a long way to go with Finnish (he can go tot the store or restaurant) is spending a half year in Tampere at the the University.

By 75 the old bands like Wigwam were moving out of the way ( though they had their biggest hit, a more pop album that year) But the whole 70s set is still my favorite rock era. First ever indoor concert was Jethro Tull '71.

Last order
Symphony 3

I find the 3, 6 and 7 order ideal. I play 4 and 2 alone, usually.

Very hesitant about the Sanderling set. The mp3 link there is messed up.
Jean Sibelius: The Seven Symphonies; En Saga; Finlandia; Nachtlicher Ritt und Sonnenaufgang

this one I have on order. It is just Finlandia (label) whereas the other two are apex warner finlandia.
Sibelius: Symphonies Nos. 3 6 & 7

Posted on Jul 4, 2012 4:33:47 PM PDT
Tero says:
Sibelius speaks. 1:14

there is a translation underneath

Posted on Jul 5, 2012 7:29:38 AM PDT
Tero says:
Review of new Kamu disc

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2012 9:38:22 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 5, 2012 10:44:49 AM PDT
Speaking of Kamu, I was privileged to heard him conducting Sibelius symphonies nos. 5-7 in the same concert, last autumn. He then started his post as the new prime conductor of Sinfonia Lahti by playing all the symphonies during three consecutive nights (+ violin concerto, I believe). Sibelius Hall was magnificent, as was the band and the whole night. It was my first visit to the hall.

When I was child, Okko Kamu was the only conductor I knew by name (alongside with Karajan.) I believe he was the one that everybody knew and he must have been the most popular of conductors during the 70's and 80's.
But since 90's we have talked about just Saraste and Salonen and Segerstam, later on Oramo and Vänskä, (and Lintu, Storgårds, Gothoni, Sakari, Franck, Inkinen, Mälkki and whoever) while Kamu's public profile has been somewhat lower. Same with Berglund, who's never been quite as popular among the 'normal street-goers'.

Kamu's relative obscurity may partly be due to the fact that he has been working outside Finland mostly (but the same goes with Salonen too...) I don't know if it's his own choice or what other reasons there might be. Maybe You others have something to say about it. However, now he's back leading the fine orchestra of Lahti.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2012 7:04:58 PM PDT
Tero says:
I had the Kamu LP of the 2nd and much of it sounds right that way to my ears.

Posted on Jul 6, 2012 12:20:31 AM PDT
Skaynan says:
Tero: David Hurwitz knows his Sibelius, that's for sure. He even published a nice introductory book about Sibelius orchestral music, so I guess if he reviews the Kamu "Tempest/Tapiola" whith such enthusiasm and gives it 10/10 he is probably right. Tapiola is one of my favorite works of music of all time, so I'm really tempted to get it. Do you have the disk? Is it really that good?

Posted on Jul 6, 2012 12:24:48 AM PDT
Tero - I hope you end up enjoying the Gibson set of symphonies. They are extremely good, and although I have bought sets since which supercede him, I retain acertain amount of affection for them, especially as his 6th is top-drawer!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2012 12:06:30 PM PDT
Sample Kamu's Tapiola (+Tempest, Bard) on iTunes. It does sound fine, indeed, similar interpretation to my favorite recording, Ansermet l'OSR; with better orchestra, newer and better sound! I'll get this CD (or MP3) soon myself.

Posted on Jul 6, 2012 12:10:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 6, 2012 12:11:22 PM PDT
KenOC says:
Sibelius has sold out! I mean he's been sold. Well, actually not. But he's moving to the Ukraine? I'm confused. From yesterday's news:

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 3:22:38 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 7, 2012 3:29:12 PM PDT
Tero says:
Not the most sophisticated recording. Student musicians in Stockholm play Pohjola's Daughter. The other videos of it are quite old.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 8:50:42 AM PDT
Gibson is, indeed, a very fine Sibelian, in the clean-cut, stand-up, straightforward British/Scottish manner. Did Adrian Boult ever record any Sibelius. I haven't seen any recordings of his. I imagine he might have made a very good Sibelius conductor.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 8:52:16 AM PDT
I look forward to your opinion on the J-P Sarastre set. I just heard his recording of Finlandia the other day on the car radio. Very smart.

Posted on Jul 8, 2012 9:13:22 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 8, 2012 9:13:35 AM PDT
I had a vinyl disc of boult conducting some tone poems.
it was on vangard or Westminster Gold.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 6:31:16 PM PDT
Ken -- Sibelius is a music writing system for computers.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 6:47:15 PM PDT
KenOC says:
Uh...yes. It was just a funny! ;-)

Posted on Jul 8, 2012 8:29:40 PM PDT
OK ho ho

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 9, 2012 4:59:27 AM PDT
D. M. Ohara says:
Yes Boult certainly did record some Sibelius. In my 1959 Gramophone Classical Catalogue, I find two Pye/Nixa LPs - NCL 16023/4 on which he conducts the LPO [under the name Philharmonic Promenade Orchestra] in En saga, Legends 2&3, Pohjola's Daughter, The Bard, Tapiola, the Oceanides, Nightride and Sunrise, Finlandia and the Tempest Prelude. I've never heard them, and do not know if there has been a CD reissue - though it seems likely.

Posted on Jul 9, 2012 10:39:52 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 9, 2012 10:41:58 AM PDT
Adrian Boult did do quite a few Sibelius recordings. There's a healthy selection of them, albeit on relatively small specialist labels, listed on Amazon UK, and indeed on the Western side of the Atlantic too, including a live Seventh, all the major tone poems, and a Violin Concerto with Yehudi Menuhin. The symphonies alas don't seem to be that well represented though.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 9, 2012 11:46:34 AM PDT
D. M. Ohara says:
I expect that Pye/Nixa did not want to record Boult in the Sibelius Symphonies, because they had Barbirolli and the Halle under contract at the same time, and they were doing the symphonies. Later both Boult and Barbirolli returned to the EMI stable where Boult recorded a lot of RVW and Barbirolli of Elgar.
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