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Listening Group Selection #2: Louis Spohr, Symphony #6 in G, Op. 116


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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 26, 2012 12:52:28 PM PDT
John Ruggeri says:
Friends

My feeling about the Louis Spohr, Symphony #6 in G, Op. 116 (1840). I listened to the Slovak State Philharmonic Orchestra performance.

Caveat - I am not an intellectual re: Music. I want the music to speak or NOT speak directly to me I rarely read linear notes BEFORE listening to a performance hence I was in no position to judge
THE HISTORICAL CLAIMS.

Here goes:

MVMT 1- Melodic beauty and and interesting re-do of melodies
MVMT 2- Rather rambling .
MVMT 3- Pleasant but nothing earth shattering.
MVMT 4- The most pleasant with conisistent fire.

I am most familiar with Spohr's Violin works which I enjoy very much.

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 10:29:48 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2012 10:42:07 AM PDT
KenOC says:
Coming up shortly.....a surprise perhaps.

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 10:45:47 AM PDT
carnola says:
I, for one, am hoping it will be the Chopin tone poem with cannons or canons you mentioned on the other thread!

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 11:10:59 AM PDT
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Skaynan says:
Ken is a long time fan of Elvis... Maybe that's next? :-)

March: it has been A very interesting and good choice for a discussion. Well picked!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2012 11:25:50 AM PDT
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carnola says:
Fantasia on Themes from "Viva Las Vegas"?
Rhapsody on "That's All Right, Mama"?

Yes, march, nice pick! I've heard little Spohr, just some clarinet concertos, so it was good to explore the fringes of the repertoire.

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 2:35:44 PM PDT
Gwac says:
March,

Although I didn't like it (and it remains unknown to what degree this is due to the performance), I am happy to have heard Spohr's 6th. I am guessing it would have been a long time before I had encountered it myself (if ever).

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2012 2:48:38 PM PDT
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KenOC says:
"I am guessing it would have been a long time before I had encountered it myself (if ever)."

I am guessing that it'll be a long time before I encounter it again!

Seriously March, thanks for a good and interesting pick (the pick, not the music). I think we'll continue to see a lot of variety in these discussions. BTW did you ever tell us YOUR opinion of the piece?

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 3:11:44 PM PDT
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Posted on Apr 27, 2012 8:57:37 PM PDT
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Larkenfield says:
I feel this symphony is better than it's being performed here. That's a problem with some of the icons of a former period in history: getting a top-flight performance by a first-rate orchestra, and the performance of the 1st movement of his 6th sounds tired and draggy here rather than more sprightly and lively like I believe Spohr intended.

I've enjoyed delving into the life of Mr. Spohr and his Symphony. As part of the revivalist movement he and Mendelssohn were part of, I believe they were both being modern and progressive by looking back to the past at Bach and others who may have been publicly under appreciated for their genius, while of course not having been forgotten by the usual suspects of Mozart, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Schumann and Chopin. From Wiki: "Bach's abilities as an organist were highly respected throughout Europe during his lifetime, although he was not widely recognized as a great composer until a revival of interest and performances of his music in the first half of the 19th century." I also feel that Spohr may have eventually gotten trapped in his reverence for the past and ultimately it had an adverse effect on his own compositions and his reputation, where he eventually became regarded as more of a period figure.

Still, there's a considerable amount that could be said on his behalf and why he was so popular in his day. I love his accessible and skilled orchestrations. I can easily imagine how enjoyable it would have been at the time to attend one of his performances. The Symphony seems to be written right in the middle sweet part of the orchestra. So there's this immediate appeal that I believe contributed to his great popularity, and he was not so literal in his reverence for Bach, Handel, Beethoven and others that he was trying to write music that was a literal representation - where his romanticism seemed to come into play. I find his music highly pleasing, imaginative and undemanding in a good way, and I'm glad to know of this and other works. (I've been enjoying his 6th as I write this).

I try to hear these kinds of lesser known works from the standpoint of how the audiences may have heard them during Spohr's life-time. The 4th movement sounds the weakest to me because of its obvious repetitive explosive effects ala Beethoven, but I still feel that Spohr orchestrated it attractively and well. - Lark ♬

Posted on Apr 27, 2012 9:13:27 PM PDT
Well, Spohr's symphony just went through a meat grinder via the classical music community :s

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 27, 2012 9:36:33 PM PDT
KenOC says:
Lark, I speculated on the performance above; "I wonder how much this had to do with the performance? I suspect there were plenty of passed-by opportunities to spice things up a bit -- stronger accents, more exaggerated dynamics, a generally more aggressive approach. Maybe the conductor was texting while he worked?"

Posted on May 2, 2012 6:16:23 PM PDT
mojoworking says:
Bump!

I'm a bit late to the party but I have finally recovered from a 4 week bug which has been preventing me from listening to music, so here's a quick stab at a review. I am writing this 'blind' without the Amazon thread on a long-haul flight, so apologies for any repetition of thoughts and ideas expressed before.

First movement - for me the most enjoyable movement, mainly because I feel it didn't outstay it's welcome (yikes). Semi-Baroque in style, but not particularly reminiscent of Bach or Handel.

Second movement - definitely outstayed its welcome unfortunately. In that sense it was very un-Haydnesque and un-Mozartian as their works have enough genius and economy of effort to retain my attention. I didn't feel that there was any development in the music and the final section just felt like recycled material of the opening section.

Third movement - sounds like early Beethoven, at a stretch! I feel it owes more to Mozart and so defies the naming of the movement, but there was at least some development in the music.

Final movement - this is the movement for me that most closely resembles the period it is supposed to represent. Sounds like a Rossini overture which makes it's placing in the work seem rather odd. Enjoyable with enough invention to keep interest.

In summary, it's an interesting work with a premise of merit. Unfortunately it largely fails to live up to expectations because the individual movements are not up to the standard of the master composers which they represent. It's a work which is a novelty/curiosity a best, and to which I can't see myself returning very often. If anything, it made me want to listen to some Haydn or Beethoven - if that was Spohr's intention he has very much succeeded!
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