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In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 9:33:15 PM PDT
Grant says:
I just thought it was odd that Diamond was still able to get them.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 9:50:09 PM PDT
chris reilly says:
Not sure it was Diamond. This was the email:

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I'm very sorry but we have to cancel your order for this book...basically we supposed to get a bunch of copies of this book in last week, but they never showed.  Our distributor is sending replacements but they are a week or two away from arriving to us.  Unfortunately you were able to order this book before we were able to (temporarily) remove the listing from Amazon.  I'm not sure exactly when we will get more copies and I know there are lots of other sellers who can send you this book now, so it seems fairer to refund your money and let you purchase from one of them.  My apologies again for any inconvenience this has caused you.  Please let me know if you have any questions.

yours,
Mike

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Posted on May 28, 2012 10:25:01 PM PDT
Grant says:
Went to see Avengers one last time today. Happy to say it was a packed house. Will be interesting to see how it did over the holiday.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 1:20:52 AM PDT
chris reilly says:
Grant, MIB 3 took first place but at this point isn't Acengers (DVD's dying like 8 tracks aside) cemented as the biggest money maker of all time?

Posted on May 29, 2012 2:08:46 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 2:09:06 AM PDT
Nicos says:
Speaking of MIB3, I am tempted to see it just for all of these awesome 50's and 60's style retro aliens that Rick Baker made.
http://www.chud.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/mib3-baker.jpg

The MSTie in me got all giddy when I saw that Ro-Man (from Robot Monster) alien on the right.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 2:36:10 AM PDT
chris reilly says:
I want to see it just to marvel at how Josh Brolin can morph into anyone without the aid of makeup.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 8:13:47 AM PDT
Grant says:
I read that it's closing in on 3rd highest grossing of all time.

Posted on May 29, 2012 8:15:35 AM PDT
Grant says:
I had 20 minutes to kill before Avengers started and peeked in at MIB3. It looked kind of funny from what I saw of it. I wasn't aware that Emma Thompson was in it. I like her.

Posted on May 29, 2012 9:06:43 AM PDT
I may check out MIB3. I was skeptical about it before.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 10:21:03 AM PDT
Art Franklin says:
Incomplete list by the way. Korg and Hiroim from Earth-616 were not on it for example.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 10:35:47 AM PDT
Art Franklin says:
"The problem is that those things were NOT happening "naturally". At least not more than a couple times every..oh..2 or 3 decades. " - Grant

I'm going to assume you meant the creation of LGBT characters rather than "Peter Parker and Nick Fury are not making enough deals with the devil".

There is a happy and non-sleezy solution to this issue. All you have to do is hire certain writers. When Grant Morrison was hired to write New X-Men then all of a sudden Beast started addressing the lack of gay mutant role models and gender issues were introduced in newer characters. I highly doubt that there was a corporate mandate or press release to create Jumbo Carnation (tragic stereotype that he was).

You can go one better than hiring writers that are interested in minority and subculture issues, you can also hire minorities and members of communities as writers and give them a gig. But then instead of pimping them you can just let them create what feels natural to them in the creative sandbox they've been given.

Then everything can be nice and copacetic until straight males start feeling like outcasts because they're not as into BDSM as all the superheroes of 2043.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 11:48:35 AM PDT
chris reilly says:
They actually made no promises that their list of gay, bi or transgender charactors was complete so I can't really complain.
For the record, is Marvel's bizarre numbering of earths (616) based on Alan Moore's Captain Brit run where that creature the Fury is going numbered earth to earth destroying their respective champions? That beast even killed Marvel/Miracle Man. He really established a ton of alternate Marvel universes in that serirs and Merlin did number them.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 11:52:46 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 2:50:32 PM PDT
chris reilly says:
Art, I am out of this debate but this was a great post. Even if I duck out I would be remiss to not give credit where it is due. Bravo.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 1:24:30 PM PDT
Grant says:
Art:

I also doubt there was mandate to create Jumbo Carnation. Or any other obscure gay character. But that's kind of the point.

And wouldn't the "decision" to hire a writer to either create a gay character or have an existing character "come out" be basically the same as outright telling a writer to make a character gay? I doubt that DC/Marvel would say "well, we need a gay character, but we want it to happen "organically" so we'll hire someone in the hopes that...someday...they are inspired to do so"

The writer still has to decide who's going to be gay and that decision is still going to have to be approved. So in the end, it's still a mandate.

Posted on May 29, 2012 1:24:44 PM PDT
So how great was the game of thrones episode?

Also you jerks got me sucked into Battlestar galatica now I'm marathoning it to get to the end still on season 2 after odama gets promoted to admiral. Sorry grant I tried to give Farscape a chance But just couldnt get into it.

Cant wait for the summer series to start! New Boondocks in the works finally! Lot of interesting shows coming out at Adult swim. Did the exec get fired or something? Still waiting on Ventures heard they are doing a Halloween special and then in jan. the new season will start.

Not much going on on this end I converted one of my friends and they are reading mad amount of comics now. Max Punisher, Crossed, Secret Six, Conan, Boys, Hulk he is eating them up.

Looks like MIB beat avengers but I have a feeling avengers may be back in the top spot soon.

Again Game of thrones was awesome!! Hope you guys had a good memorial day. I brought out my cap toy to display for it.

Posted on May 29, 2012 2:01:42 PM PDT
Grant says:
Man, I'm reading some of these Ebook sample chapters. So I guess you really don't have to have any talent at all to get an Ebook published. I am definitely going to work on writing some cliche filled run on sentences and get that baby on Kindle, pronto!

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 2:54:29 PM PDT
chris reilly says:
Grant, the amazon requiemt is you send it to them.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 3:11:02 PM PDT
Grant says:
Well, they say most of life is showing up. Kind of the same principle I guess.

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 3:28:24 PM PDT
Art Franklin says:
Grant said "The writer still has to decide who's going to be gay and that decision is still going to have to be approved. So in the end, it's still a mandate. "

I'm sorry if this is too nuanced for you but that is NOT the same. A dog needs a tail to wag and a tail needs a dog to wag. I find it far less creepy when the dog wags the tail! (i.e. when Grant Morrison says "I would like for Beast to be gay" and the editors say "No, but you can have him flirt with the idea" then the creative process is working as intended.)

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 3:36:27 PM PDT
Art Franklin says:
"For the record, is Marvel's bizarre numbering of earths (616) based on Alan Moore's Captain Brit run where that creature the Fury is going numbered earth to earth destroying their respective champions?"

I have no idea! Looking...

Well, it definitely seems related to Captain Britain, although Moore might not be the first to use the term. Also the WHY is disputed/unknown and I would like to know the real significance of the number or if it just 'sounded good' to the writer.

I definitely don't get why a cartoon universe gets created and then gets a weird stamp like Earth-450328. Shouldn't they be numbered by their degrees of separation from the "real" Marvelverse?

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 5:25:51 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 30, 2012 6:11:39 PM PDT
Grant says:
So the editor tells the creator "no". You can dress it up and parse words, Art, but in the end, the final decision will never belong to the artist/writers unless the decision is GIVEN to them or unless they work somewhere other than DC or Marvel. But I appreciate you dragging the point so far away that it has become another discussion all together.

The idea that if a company wants to make a character gay and tells the writer to make that character gay, and then goes out to promote the character becoming gay is somehow inherrently sleazy or evil makes no sense at all. In no world will that argument ever make any sense. Companies have PR, companies try to make themselves look good. A company that is criticised for it's lack of diversity did some PR to show they were being diverse.

That's it. That's what happend. That's the point.

It's a company, not a drum circle or an encounter group. Companies have these things called PR and Marketing. The decision to make a character gay is no more morally questionable or "hurtful to the creative process" than the powers that be telling an artist to make sure they start drawing Hawkeye to look like Jeremy Renner. It's that simple, Art.

In reply to an earlier post on May 30, 2012 6:03:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 30, 2012 6:39:58 PM PDT
chris reilly says:
Art, the randomness of the earth numbering made sense the Fury was going after any earth he could find with super powered champions and Merlin who was revealed to be a Watcher like alien but did interfere was observing the destruction and giving his partner the bad news updates: "Marvel Man of earth 6097 has just been murdered." Moore basically said there were an infinite number of earths and each one had a version of Captain Britain and Merlin states that he is the only champion with a chance of stopping the Fury.
I guess if we want to come down to the multiverse with infinite earths everyone owes Michael Moorcock a royalty check and then he can write a check to Erwin Schrödinger's heirs. That is presuming his cat did not live to 120 because that poor thing has a pain and suffering settlement that is long overdue.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 12:45:01 AM PDT
D. Klecan says:
Grant: planning on publishing an ebook....that would be great!!! would love to follow your work.
I started with the Chet and bernie books on Kindle...I got the first for a few bucks and fell in love with the rest of the series.

This guy Hartness has a couple of books, one is Bubba the Ogre...he just writes a couple of chapters, sells for .99...then a few months later the next...
Hall & Goats - A Bubba the Monster Hunter Short Story

I also like to follow Jamie Sedgewick books. He writes for kids, but started a series of an Ogre Private detective. anyway, his blog, http://jamiesedgwick.blogspot.com/ has interesting articles about becoming an e-author... and some intersting articles about ebooks and kindle in general...Books and book publishing is going through a gigantic change....wonder what the future will bring.....just wish his blog wasn't yellow font on black hard to read.

In reply to an earlier post on May 31, 2012 12:53:08 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 31, 2012 12:54:56 AM PDT
D. Klecan says:
BWise....Had a great memorial day weekend as well...spent 2 weeks visiting my cousin and his family. His boys (twins 10 years old and another 8 years old) were extremely impressed with my comic book and movie knowledge...plus I took them kayaking...so now I am their favorite aunt.

I marathon Battlestar Galactica....but I got freaked out after season 2 those machine things just started freaking me out. It was just too intense...the same with Dexter....

On my vacation I marathoned Sherlock, the new PBS show about Sherlock in the present time. It was fantastic!!! The first half hour of the the first show was a bit discombobulated...hard to follow. Takes a while to get used to British cinematography...but then I was hooked. The 2 actors are great!!! I love how they adapted Sherlock to the present day. He does so much with his smart phone, and the internet. Watson, an ex soldier from Afhanistan blogs about Sherlock instead of writing his memoirs. I like how they type the tet on the screen so you can follow the plot. It all makes sense in the 21st century context. ....Looking forward to MIB!!

I still haven't hooked up to Game of Thrones. I am afraid if I watch one show, I'll be up for 3 days watching the entire season.

I can't believe you don't like Farscape....watch another episode...give it a chance. I loved it.

Posted on May 31, 2012 1:13:58 AM PDT
D. Klecan says:
BW....with regards to Battleship Galactica....Katie Sackhoff plays the pilot, Starbuck...she is on a new TV show..starts June 3, Longmire on A&E......anyway, long story short, my hubbie got a part as background actor!!!!!

Longmire is shooting here in NM. My husband submitted a face shot for a callout for background crowd and he got a call-back. He's going to the shoot tomorrow morning at 7am. We are so so excited. It is a rodeo scene.

Longmire is about an old sheriff cowboy in Wyoming. Will keep you guys posted about his scene.

Other than Sherlock, haven't read comics or watched much TV in the past 3 weeks. But I do have to rant.
I am super confused over several shows...My rant is called: "did I miss an episode or what????"
Young Justice...what happened?....all of a sudden all the kids are older...there was no explanation...interlude...nothing....will they be going back to the younger version?...I noticed that it is now called Young Justice, Aliens...or something.....however, can't complain...anything with beast boy is great to watch....Suberboy and the arrow kid are just too depressed and too depressing to watch.

Avengers, Mightiest heroes....last episode with Billy Ray whatever...as a kid I never could figure out that horse-faced super hero......and now I still don't get him. Not interesting, not-good looking....who is he? I really don't care.....I don't like the show when it gets too "thor-based" just give me the basic Avenger group.
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