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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 6, 2012 11:26:24 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 6, 2012 11:28:13 PM PDT
I know its not canon but none the less.

Yeah Bruce timms animated universe babs was never shot. DCAU is totally separate from DCU. Now DCU has adapted Timms work into canon Batman Beyond, Harley, Mad love, etc. But those universes (Timms and DCU) are separate.

I dont think there is ever a long term plan at DC anyway.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 7, 2012 5:27:00 AM PDT
Nicos says:
haha no doubt. Out of everything in that book (including Marcellus Wallace's soul or whatever it was supposed to be), it was the Joker popping pills that just blew everything apart.

I would have loved to see that version of Killer Croc show up in one of the Nolan films though.

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 11:37:53 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 7, 2012 11:39:40 AM PDT
I got bored with Supergirl and Swamp Thing and dropped them. The artist on Stormwatch #8 stinks, so I didn't buy it. I'm considering dropping Wonder Woman. I plan on giving Earth 2 a shot, and a couple of the other new ones.

Over in Vertigo Land, the first issue of Fairest was pretty good, if you're already into Fables

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 12:45:13 PM PDT
Cerberus says:
Could you guy's and girl's recommend any of the new 52 monthly stuff to pick-up other than batman please ?

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 5:22:21 PM PDT
Cerberus
Demon Knights. Uhmm Justice League Dark art is pretty good recently. Animal man gets good reviews but I havent read it. Anyone else besides Batman, and Action Comics?

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 9:04:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 7, 2012 9:05:12 PM PDT
All of the Green Lantern books, All Star Western, and Aquaman. I'd say Legion of Super-Heroes, but apparently I'm the only reader who likes that book, so I'll just give it up.

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 9:24:41 PM PDT
You know when I hear New52 I never think about the GL books because they are basically old 52 storyline. Did anything change over there? Seemed like they just kept on doing what they were doing over in GL land. So those books always slip my mind. But yeah they are good as well. Same ol GL as before.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 7, 2012 9:55:21 PM PDT
The Joker is not exactly a guy that you can psychologically analyze.

Remember that this is the guy that constantly changes his backstory/past,as Joker himself said:"Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... if I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice! Ha ha ha!"

As Denny O'Neil himself said in the Legion Of Doom:Villains Unite featurette on Justice League:A New Frontier:"This is the guy who will kill you because he happens not to like the color of your shoes or he'll give you $1,000 because he doesn't like the color of your shoes!"

The point is that what Joker does pretty much defies any and all reason,Joker does what he does because he's The Joker.

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 10:05:15 PM PDT
Your basic Chaotic Evil alignment character.

Posted on Apr 7, 2012 10:12:50 PM PDT
"You gotta keep em guessing bats, otherwise they lose interest and we wouldnt want that now would we? Hahaha"

Its all for attention. He'll shoot to get attention, same with give him the money. Then get mad no one else found it funny and kill all them. Its a viscous cycle. You want to make joker mad take the spotlight off him.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 2:49:18 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 8, 2012 2:59:26 AM PDT
Cerberus says:
Barzai the wise and Dennis M. Roy

Thanks for the recommendations of...

ALL-STAR WESTERN
ANIMAL MAN
AQUAMAN
DEMON KNIGHTS
JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK
LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES

I'll have a look at getting hold of a couple of issues of each and as for Green Lantern I still have masses of graphic novels to get for him/them.

EDIT

STORMWATCH as good as it was when it started at Wildstorm ?
JUSTICE LEAGUE no love for it then ?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 3:33:43 AM PDT
M. Cook says:
S. Kelly -- CAPTAIN ATOM, I really, really like this title. The first issue I didn't like so much, but issue 2 really grabbed me -- I heartily recommend it! -- and it's gotten better and better. It's the sort of series that focuses more on the "quieter" moments as the important thrust of the series than the "big action" , if you get my meaning. And you can just tell that they are running with the "Dr. Manhattan" connection, if you also catch my drift. I love the sequence where he turns a fighter jet into feathers!

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 3:45:39 AM PDT
M. Cook says:
R. J. Satori -- "That he (Alan Moore) claims to be a "feminist" is a lie I don't buy" -- I recall that Moore went on record (I believe it was in the back of a CEREBUS issue) that he was against feminism. He said something along the lines of feminism being to blame for war -- that women used their "wiles" to coerce men into going off to war on the promise that when they got back.. well, I'm sure you get the drift.
And,yes, I do believe that Zarchi has "argued" that "I Spit" is a "feminist statement" or some such. But the same was said about "Thelma & Louise" -- where the 2 female leads commit SUICIDE at the end, fully disproving that. Now, David Lynch, on the other hand. He is a feminist director! (No sarcasm intended, it's true!)

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 8:10:27 AM PDT
R. J. Satori says:
Pretty sure I've read him claiming that he is feminist -- I believe it was in a long article from the late 1980s, when he was bragging on himself over Swamp Thing. It may also have been directly in response to criticism of TKJ a few years later though, when he was trying to change his image at... image. I will look for it when I get a chance.

It might surprise you, but I don't hate David Lynch. Much as he likes to put filth on display, I don't get the sense that he's trying to tear down his subjects so much as appreciating them for what they are. Warts, craziness, and all. Sort of an artistic attraction to the grotesque.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 3:11:48 PM PDT
Alexander P. says:
Stormwatch isn't at all as good as it was under Warren Ellis or Mark Millar... I got the first few issues, and I'm really unhappy with it... Big shoes to fill, I guess. The only interesting bits to the story (again, I only read three issues), were the hints at what was to come... There's some "fan-art" of Apollo fighting Superman, and you know they're going to beat that horse at some point (please let a good writer crack at it!), adding the Martian Manhunter to the mix was interesting, and he fit in pretty decent.. But they're more like the Secret Aveners than the alternative to the Justice League...

As for the Justice League, I'm liking the book. The artwork is great so far, and the story is decent. Its got a lot of action, simple plot, and hits a few comedic notes. Its an "easy" book, is how I'd describe it.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 8, 2012 3:21:44 PM PDT
Cerberus says:
Alexander P.

Does Jim Lee do the internal artwork for JL or just the cover ? and thanks for the heads-up on Stormwatch.
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Posted on Apr 9, 2012 9:55:01 AM PDT
Cerberus says:
Barzai the wise and Dennis M. Roy and others

How easy is it to get back issues in the USA of the DC 52 stuff ? I've had flipping hassle getting hold of them, and it looks like I'm going to have to wait for graphic novels for animal man, demon knights and all star western. Maybe it was daft of me to think getting hold of comics that are less than a year old would be easy in the UK... pffffffffffffft.

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 6:57:55 AM PDT
Alexander P. says:
He does the internal artwork for the first story arc (i.e. the first hardcover trade)..

as for Back Issues on the DCnU... it depends what you want: are you looking for the first prints of all the #1's? That's difficult. However, at least half the titles have gone on to second printings, some even third printings... What do are you looking for?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 10:57:01 AM PDT
Cerberus says:
Alexander P.

All I could get from trying 2 comic shops in London for issues 1-7 was Justice League, now Justice League dark and Aquaman are a combination of one dedicated sore and 2 online sites to get them from issues 1-7 lol as for Demon knights, Animal Man and All star western it seems wait for the first hardcover.

All of the issue #1 are second print and I wasn't interested in this alternate cover lark so all are just standard issues.

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 12:26:27 PM PDT
Many of the DC New 52s (only the ones you actually want, of course) sold out of their first printings of the 1st six issues. You snooze you loose. 2nd and 3rd (and a few 4th) printings are easily available at cover price. The sold-out first printings are on the collector's market at whatever prices the market will bear. Or you could wait a few months and get the collected edition (although I'm not sure why someone would turn up their nose at 2nd or 3rd printings, but then go for the HC or TP edition instead). FYI, you have a year's wait on a dozen of the best selling titles as they'll go to hardcover first with the customary waiting period until they are reprinted in paperback. Anyone who thinks they should easily be able to buy a first print copy of a popular comic book title at cover price six months down the road has a poor understanding of how this industry works.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 10, 2012 1:09:14 PM PDT
Cerberus says:
Hey Dennis M. Roy, I wasn't after 1st print and didn't expect to see any but 2nd and 3rds I thought shouldn't be that much of a problem, but guess I was wrong there or UK sellers just aren't willing to hold that much stock given the financial climate at the moment ? so it's HC for the stuff I can't get when they're released. "You snooze you loose." not kidding lol.

Did you or anyone else read I, Vampire and if so worth a look ?

Posted on Apr 10, 2012 1:28:52 PM PDT
Fair enough, Cerberus. I can't speak to the situation with comic shops in the UK, but most of these (later printings) should be available through mail-order/internet comic dealers in the US. You could order them at cover price, but perhaps the shipping costs would make the overall price too expensive. With 52 titles to sample, perhaps the collected editions (which should remain in-print for a while) are the best way for you to go. By the time these come out, you should have the advantage of having read online reviews to help you decide which titles are worth your time.

Posted on May 6, 2012 7:23:29 PM PDT
Leon Evelake says:
Anybody else hate the new origin for the question and phantom stranger?

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 11:25:54 PM PDT
Nicos says:
What are they? As much as I love Rick Veitch, I hated his whole "Urban Shaman" take on the Question. Is this one that much worse?

In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 1:12:15 PM PDT
Real Deal says:
Why don't you trust Grant Morrison with anything? Where did he go wrong? Just curious, been reading comics for a year and a half and I've enjoy his writing and his stories.
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