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Initial post: May 24, 2011 10:30:47 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2011 5:34:13 PM PDT
This will be an *instant* best seller.

I'm amazed it's taking so long to create this. I'm talking mainly about Byrne's comics between '86-'88.

Does DC have something against making easy money? :) This seems like a crazy omission in their current line of omnibus-style & absolute edition collections.

At least Marvel is now giving us Fantastic Four by John Byrne Omnibus - Volume 1.

Is anyone else interested in a Byrne Superman: Man of Steel Omnibus?

Posted on May 24, 2011 5:53:38 PM PDT
Although I'm not too crazy about the "omnibus" format, it also seems like the Claremont/Byrne X-men run would be a good one...

Posted on May 24, 2011 6:14:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2011 8:55:57 AM PDT
And if Marvel is interested in making creative collections, how about a Byrne Incredible Hulk & She-Hulk combination omnibus?

People still often consider X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Superman to be Byrne's most famous works, even though he's done a number of other titles that I like just as much, and at times even more. Still, his X-Men issues have largely been collected. See...

Uncanny X-Men Omnibus (v. 1), and...

X-Men: The Dark Phoenix Saga.

And since his Fantastic Four is beginning to be released in omnibus collections, it seems to me Byrne's Man of Steel is certainly worthy of the same treatment.

Posted on May 25, 2011 11:51:49 AM PDT
I would be all over a Superman by John Byrne omnibus. With the Man of Steel #1 cover as the omni cover.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2011 12:01:34 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2011 5:40:56 PM PDT
THANK YOU!

Somebody else remembers this great series. The longer people keep this thread alive, the greater the chance somebody with influence at DC might see this and act. I'll take any voices of support please. :)

Posted on May 25, 2011 2:25:13 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2011 2:29:25 PM PDT
I love the idea of a Superman: Man of Steel (by John Byrne) to be an excellent choice. The possibility of that collection is what has held me so far of getting the paperbacks, however I think it'll only work if DC Comics do it right.

If they're thinking in making a "Man of Steel by John Byrne Omnibus" with 448 pages with a $75 retail price.... Man, you can count me out right freaking now!. My worries comes from the recent embarrasing collections DC is launching. Take a look at the Flash recent Omnibus. 448 pages at $75 retail and it came with GLUED BINDING, no extras, and several tie-in issues are not included. That and the fact the any story (not even the Flash: Our Worlds at war issue) came even with an introduction makes that collection in the last of my "to buy" list.

The stories might be awesome, but that doesn't mean some of us are going to pick any piece of trash with low content at a crazy price just because.

Anyway, I think that if they do this right (ala DC/Marvel Crossover Omnibus with more than 500 pages at $49.99 retail price), a Man of Steel Omnibus would be a home-run and I'll be the first making the line to get two copies!!.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2011 2:32:33 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2011 5:11:16 PM PDT
It is an excellent choice. :)

It's the Thor by Walter Simonson Omnibus that got me thinking about this. The recent success Marvel is having with it is amazing.

I'm thinking the sales & popularity of this item is a big wake-up call to the major comicbook publishers on what fans are *really* looking for. If DC doesn't step up their game, Marvel is going to be taking everyone's money. I have my eyes set on a bunch of recently announced Marvel omnibus collections.

I haven't seen the The Flash by Geoff Johns Omnibus, Vol. 1 in person, so I can't speak to its production quality, but the main review there is certainly cause for concern.

I'm also not exactly sure how these things ought to be priced, but that Simonson Thor collection seems to be selling extremely well. Look at how many LIKES it has. Maybe part of the reason for this is the new coloring, and the timing coinciding with the 1st Thor film, but I'm personally okay with a Superman Omnibus that has the original colors. At this point, I can't really imagine what an acceptable price point would be. I just want to see this happen! And obviously, production quality ought to be top priority.

Posted on May 26, 2011 6:56:17 AM PDT
The Thor Omnibus is a HUGE book (like they should be). It have 1192 pages and new coloring, and it looks BEAUTIFUL and destructive.

That's how I would like to have Man of Steel.

Posted on May 26, 2011 8:38:38 AM PDT
I dont have the Flash Omnibus, but I do have the Green lantern one (that reprints the first 24 appearances if I remember right). I was not super impressed with the production value. The page weight and type were lesser than the Marvel Omnibus paper (based on my feel). Someone described the pages as "fragile" and I concur. the slightest mistouch can leave the pages dented and dinged (as opposed to the latest Marvel Omnibus pages that are tough (my 2 year old daughter stepped on an open Thor omnibus, and the pages were fine after I freaked out!) If I remember right in the Green Lantern OMnibus issues were not even broken up by printing their covers. There are crazy wide margins after DC failed to map the original art page size to the book size (reminds me of Marvel Captain Brit Omnibus where the original art is at a different scale for the UK releases vs the US so there are big borders)

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2011 10:20:15 AM PDT
This is why I half jokingly say, "Does DC have something against making easy money? :)". I'm guessing *somebody* at DC involved with the creation of these collections has to have the ability to make better decisions. Marvel is going to be leaving DC in the dust.

Posted on May 26, 2011 10:30:29 AM PDT
Agree. have you seen the Thor Omnibus??. I'm so jealous!!. I don't read Marvel, but that beauty is going to be mine!.

That's the kind of products I want from DC, but little by little they're pushing me to buy Marvel.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2011 10:37:50 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 26, 2011 10:39:40 AM PDT
I haven't bought the Simonson omnibus because I have all the individual trades, and I wrote positive reviews for each one. I'm crazy in that I actually like the plain, bright & clear colors of the 80's. But I fully realize I may be in the minority in that respect. One person's opinion of the Simonson omnibus may not be significant, but the overwhelming popularity of the thing is certainly attention getting! I've never met Walt Simonson in person, but I'm thinking he's got to be thrilled with the renewed popularity.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2011 4:22:23 PM PDT
Ryan says:
But the Dark Phoenix Saga 'omnibus' is the most overpriced piece of crap Marvel's EVER put out. 75 retail for a book that should have been UXM Omnibus 2? Get real.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2011 4:29:41 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 26, 2011 4:36:30 PM PDT
I hear you loud & clear on that. It's great the reviews on that product page spell it out so strongly for everyone reading. So Marvel clearly doesn't hit a home run every time at bat. But they seemed to get that Simonson omnibus right. In any case, Byrne's X-Men has been collected in many forms ad nauseam. But his 80's Superman? We currently have no choice but to buy a number of trade paperbacks that aren't even 100% Byrne. That's why this Byrne Superman Omnibus is so overdue. They even did an Absolute All Star Superman already. Where's my Byrne fix? :)

Posted on May 27, 2011 6:43:49 AM PDT
Yeah. Where is Man of Steel, where is Absolute Batman: Dark Victory, Where's Absolute Green Lantern: Sinestro Corps War, where's Absolute The Spirit or absolute The Swamp Thing??.

There's so many obvious compilations DC could publish but they don't. They rather make skinny overpriced craps like Absolute Rebirth or Absolute Identity Crisis or Teen Titans (Geoff Jones) Omnibus than go for what fans ask.

I agree that Marvel don't always hit the nail, but man, they do it most of the time, and what a way to do it. They just launched the Thor Omnibus and there's still to come X-Men (Jim Lee) Omnibus, Fantastic Four (John Byrne) Omnibus, etc. All of them have more than 800 to 1000 pages. Please!!.

In reply to an earlier post on May 27, 2011 8:29:05 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 27, 2011 8:33:00 AM PDT
I think DC would be smart to release a lot of new ominbus & absolute edition collections just like Marvel is. High quality being the key. Compete for the collector-minded consumer. It's not like DC will go bankrupt if they don't, but it seems like they're really missing an easy opportunity here. And I think these kinds of massive collections have grown in popularity since they were first released. As long as publishers keep their print runs relatively in check, because fans can only afford to spend so much, they should do great with these collections. At least Marvel seems to get it.

Posted on May 27, 2011 10:21:05 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 27, 2011 10:21:32 AM PDT
That is correct!.

I also believe DC won't go bad if they don't launch better products, but they certainly miss the opportunity to make a kill. High quality and content must be the target. I wouldn't like to have an Absolute with steel binding and golden pages but with 250 pages with no extras. Content MUST be a factor too.

In reply to an earlier post on May 27, 2011 10:33:52 AM PDT
Golden pages. lol. Now that would be *amazing*. Might cost a bit extra. :) I'm really glad you're contributing to keeping this thread active. If any Byrne fan would like to see this Superman omnibus, please drop a quick shout out to DC here. I'm thinking DC will eventually make this happen whether they even see this thread or not, but it may speed up the process if they see there's a demand. "Power to the people" and all that. :)

Posted on May 27, 2011 12:22:49 PM PDT
JA!. Nice!.

I agree. I do want The Man of Steel by John Byrne to be Omnibused or Absoluted. It'll be a KICK ASS collection if they do it like the recent Thor Omnibus: more than 1000 pages, swed binding, leatherbound and with extras. I would pay the same price Marvel is charging for the Thor one with a HUGE smile in my face.

Posted on May 28, 2011 5:01:29 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 28, 2011 5:03:57 PM PDT
there lies the problem. DC doesn't do any collections even close to 1000 pages. ever. it's rare that they even do a collection that's over 500 pages.

it's also very rare for them to do old reprints in hardcover form, unless it's something by or related to a currently hot creator/series.

and even if they did try something like this? it wouldn't be anywhere near as successful as the Thor one. (aside from the fact that it would probably be like the usual DC release and be twice the normal price for a poorer production) Thor is right in the middle of it's movie craze and being promoted like crazy in every place imaginable, which of course they timed the omnibus release for perfectly (you may have noticed every comic-related site has managed to work that omnibus into some kind of movie promoting Thor must-reads list lately.) maybe if they tried it when/if that new Superman movie gets done it would be profitable for them. otherwise with the current state of Superman and the fact that Byrne isn't exactly a name that sells anymore, it probably wouldn't be worth the risk for them.

Posted on May 28, 2011 5:24:19 PM PDT
I like your thoughts, but I really feel like this Simonson Thor Omnibus is a definite game-changer. I like to call it a wake-up call. Unless DC execs truly don't care about making easy money, how can they not sit up & take notice of how well that Thor book is doing? And it's not just the film that's generating this interest. Not by a long shot. There are plenty of Thor books that aren't selling anywhere near as well as the Simonson Omnibus. All anyone has to do is check out the sales ranks and 'Likes' on different Thor collections to see Simonson's book is special. I happen to believe a Byrne Superman Omnibus will be equally special. It's a very famous run, and people can't even get it in paperback form without getting a bunch of material thrown in that they don't want. An all Byrne Omnibus will be huge. Keep in mind that there were *zero* indications that this Simonson Omnibus was going to do *this* well. It's not like Simonson trade paperbacks have been flying off the shelves, so they decided to do this collection. This was an experiment by Marvel, and a tremendously successful one. That's why I believe this surprise success will eventually cause DC to rethink their publication strategy. Just as fans of Simonson's famous run turned out en masse for a high quality collection, so too will Byrne fans turn out en masse if DC decides to put production quality first. I think people shouldn't write off the appeal of John Byrne's work just yet. We'll see when this collection is eventually released.

In reply to an earlier post on May 28, 2011 6:42:07 PM PDT
It's been available since 2006. Although it's now out of print it can still be found for a price.

Posted on May 28, 2011 7:20:49 PM PDT
@J. Siebeck: You hit right in the nail!. DC doesn´t do big books. The only time they did a book with more than 1000 pages was the AWFUL Superman Omnibus that came back a couple of years back, and of course, it was a huge failure. The idea was good, but they throw a book that big with glue binding, SAME PAPER QUALITY AS THE ORIGINAL ISSUES, and the story-arc Funeral for a Friend was incredibly incomplete. Idiotic, greedy strategy.

@extreme_dig_cm: I really hope this is the "wake up call" as you say. Otherwise I´ll change Marvel as my current comic company. I already ordered the Thor Omnibus. Too good to let it pass. Also pre-ordered the X-men, Amazing Spiderman, Fantastic 4 and Avengers Omnibuses and canceled the ridiculous Teen Titans (Geoff Jones) Omnibus and Absolute Identity Cisis. Idiotic price for the content and number of pages. I ALMOST purchase the Flash Omnibus but I stayed my hand because I thought $75 (retail) for 448 pages was too much, and guess what... it was the best choice I could make.

I´ll go again... I´ll get Man of Steel by Byrne ONLY if they do it right.

Posted on Jun 3, 2011 10:25:28 PM PDT
I really think this could work and be fantastic! I'd be so over that!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2011 10:42:20 PM PDT
Thanks! I'm actually trying to move responses over to the Everything Omnibus thread, but I like any & all voices of support.
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