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Picking a Dog to train as a Service Dog


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In reply to an earlier post on May 27, 2011 12:26:30 PM PDT
R.R. says:
Kymberly,
Thank you for your post. I actually train dogs for search and rescue service, police service and I have occasionally trained for dementia patients. I am sorry I didn't see your post earlier. Just in terms of breed I would select the Mastador considering the tasks you wish the dog to perform. That being said, I cannot emphasis enough the importance of selection. The size of a Mastador would be to your benefit. You will need a dog strong enough to support you (and could handle if you fell onto him) and to potentially lift heavy objects and access objects on high counters etc. I would look for a dog who is very in tune to you, is submissive to you, who is able to stop play (even at a young age) with one direct command, is capable of a large vocabulary, doesn't react to strange noises/people/excitement with barking, territorial behavior, lunging behavior. A little piece of advice, please do not consider how cute or loving the dog is when selecting a service dog. You must find a dog who's nature lends itself towards service. Dogs who are placed into the position/job of service when it is against their nature/personality will not work. The job of a service dog can be very stressful. Just like people, some dogs thrive on that kind of stress and some dogs do not. The dog's well being is second to your well being. They must ALWAYS follow the rules and be quick to learn. Breeds you may also consider are anatolian shepherds, german shepherds (depending on height), possible greyhound and wolfhounds. You really need the height of the dog. A submissive Anatolian Shepherd might be ideal for what you describe as your needs.

Let me know if I may be of further assistance.
-R.R.

Posted on Jun 11, 2011 1:00:26 AM PDT
A.W. says:
This is the most ridiculous thread! Having had a physical disability since I was 22 months old (it will be 28 years this August) it amazes me that others with disabilities Do NOT Bother To Do Their Own Research On Service Dogs! If the OP had done the proper research she'd discover that it takes more than "A friendly, since" dog to make a Service Animal.

Neither of these dogs are suitable! Why? The puppy tries to knock you over FFS! And the other dog "is more lovable than smart." To Any reasonable person that sounds like the making of a disaster when it comes to either of these Pets becoming a Service Dog...

Let us be real honest: If the OP Actually Needed a Service Dog they'd contact a group that would train one for them For FREE. They really want to use their pets as their Support Animal(s) and having checked out the changes to the Rules In The ADA realize that the Rules now state that a Support Animal is Not permitted in all places. If the place of business chooses they can deny these pets entrance. And the OP wants to take them with her so she thought she could give them a few lessons on picking things up and doing other "simple" tasks, and slap the 'Service Dog' label on one or both of them to get around the new Rules.

It is a Complete Shame that people try and Abuse the system by using their Disability to get what they want out of life. I'd no sooner do that than I would try to fly without an aeroplane, but some people have no scruples in life.

Posted on Jun 11, 2011 10:23:25 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 11, 2011 11:36:45 AM PDT
R.R. says:
A. Williams,
Your post seems very angry, antagonistic and frankly disturbing. Lashing out at others isn't a good way to voice your "opinion". I would highly recommend to anyone reading these postings to disregard A. Williams comments as they are not helpful, constructive, productive nor respectful.
-R.R.

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Posted on Jun 11, 2011 10:37:39 PM PDT
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vms77 says:
Wow A. Williams do they have service dogs for anger management!! Kymerberly is just trying to get some external help/ support here. I know we all tend to get a little braver when we dont actually have to look someone in the face and say such harsh words but try to remember there is another human being on the other side of your post. Perhaps you misplaced your own "scruples" there for a moment.

Kymberly...good luck to you, you are on the right track!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 14, 2011 2:03:46 PM PDT
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L. M. Berg says:
I am in the midst of training a service dog for my husband. We are basically proofing her now. She is doing everything expected and next month we are getting her ID card. I understand how hard it is to pick a pup to work with. Our first 2 choices did not work out. One simply would not accept responsibility and the other bonded to ME! not him. We finally found a young female retriever that bonded right from the start with my husband, was stable and intelligent so I felt comfortable working with her. May I recommend the 2 do it yourself service dog manuals and or DVDs Teamwork and Teamwork II sold on amazon. The size of your dog matters only to how he will help you. If you are unsteady and need a dog to lean on or possibly pull a wheel chair later. Then a larger dog is a must. Our female Golden is a hefty girl and has learned to lie at my husband's hands when he falls, he then puts his hands on her shoulders, tells her to stand then brace and he can get up using her. I would suggest having your DVM check any dog you want to use for sound hips AND sound elbows. You lean on the front shoulders to get up from a fall. If the elbows are defective you'll be causing pain to your dog. If the dog has problem hips he/she won't be able to climb steps or even walk without pain. You don't need to bother with OFA or PENN as you're not breeding your dog. Your DVM should be able to look at the xrays and tell you about the condition of those joints. A working dog needs good hips and good elbows. For his own comfort and well as your safety. As your male is already showing a preference for you. I would suggest start training him in basic obedience, keeping him on a lead and with you as much as possible both to correct bad habits quickly and to encourage what you will want from him later. Things such as learning to lie quietly by your chair, waiting until told to enter or leave cars, to wait until told to enter through a doorway. ALL those small but important things were taught to our retriever BEFORE we even began the issue of picking things up, bracing to assist from a fall etc. Teaching the young pup these good manners now makes for a much easier time training the service dog. Remember the last thing you want if you have mobility issues is a dog of any size bolting through doors or bouncing around the house like a demon. They need to learn to be calm, to remain in one place for prolonged times and never ever to jump unless directed to do a paws up when the situation warrants it. Ours will paws up on a small chair so my husband can better put her vest on. A bending and mobility issue that came into play requiring a specific need to learn to when to put her feet up. On the flip side a dog needs its outlets and my husband spends a good amount of time every morning and evening playing with his dog in a large fenced area where she can run free with her doggy buddy be a dog and play fetch with her toy. I hope this helps. Please don't be discouraged if there are days it seems like nothing is going right and remember when training dogs, SLOWER IS FASTER. Go slow, take your time, encourage, guide and praise, discipline as needed but then step back and start over with something the dog knows and work back to the problem area. And as someone already said, once your dog is working for you and is your service dog no one can refuse him entry unless he poses a health or safety risk to people in other words he bites or isn't housebroken and no service dog should bite or be soiling indoors so that shouldn't be an issue.
Good luck and best wishes

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2011 9:20:26 AM PDT
Valentine says:
Hmmm, could you say the breed of the female? Then I would know the size it would be when fully grown. I recommend retrievers, such as the Golden Retriever. They are called retrievers for a reason you know, lol. They used to go on hunting trips with their owners and once an animal was shot they went and retrieved it. I bet if you trained one of those to "retrieve" your phone or anything else you might need would be easy. But buying a new dog is expensive, so I think you should do basic training with both dogs, find out which one is best at more things, then decide. I've seen Mastiff/Great Dane mixes, which are slightly larger than Mastadors. So I know what you might mean by "too big". Depending on the breed of the female, she might grow a little bigger by the time she is 2-3 years. Anyway, I really think you should try training both of them with basic training first and see which one is best.
Hope this helps!

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Posted on Jun 20, 2011 12:32:56 PM PDT
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Frankly while I did get a couple good suggestions, I mostly met people who wanted to Troll or Cause a Commotion. Consider this Thread Closed. Those who know they helped, Thank you. To the rest of you. I will be reporting you to Amazon for Trolling and Disrupting a Legitimate Discussion. You had absolutely nothing to add to my Discussion but felt it was okay to come on it, and Disrupt it. That was Rude and out of line. Good bye.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2011 12:32:01 PM PDT
Bindi says:
Please check your spelling before posting.

you want a dog that is calm good??? with people ect , your best bet is to ((possibly)) see about getting one trained by a ((professional)) try looking up service dogs of ((America)) ((.))

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2011 1:32:42 PM PDT
Bindi says:
Pisses you off? Good grammar, but less knowledge. I have a dog trained (professionally) as a service dog and it do not cost 7 - 10 thousand. Folks, do shop around.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2011 1:34:00 PM PDT
Bindi says:
You have it spot on Robin!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2011 1:39:27 PM PDT
Bindi says:
What amazes me is the jealousy of posters who use such words as "LMAO" and "Seriously" "Another designer dog?" Why is it any of your business to judge what someone else will grow to love and take care of?? This is their business only, not yours and not for you to judge in any way.

Note: Topic is "Service Dog"....not "Jealous Wanna Be Designer Dog Owners"

Good gracious!
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Posted on Jul 5, 2011 9:01:41 AM PDT
Amanda Peck says:
Sorry, kids, I rarely want to type up something in a word processing program and run it through the spell-check before posting it, I'd rather just put it out there and get a reply.

(but I have been known to edit for lousy typos)
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