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Initial post: Aug 10, 2008 5:45:04 PM PDT
Okay you Packer Fans + Brett Favre Fans, I kinds of set up this topic so we can keep track of both teams and to see how Brett's doing with his new team the New York Jets. This year will indeed be an intersting year football-wise.

Patricia Gross

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 10, 2008 10:00:31 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
Hey Patricia, I'm not suprised at all to see it was you who started this discussion. I know your a devout fan. I don't know if you saw my last post on my discussion but I'm really happy that the Favre/Packer feud is over. I don't mind at all that Brett is now a New York Jet. I'm happy for him, the Packers and the Jets. I think everyone wins here. It's also good that he's out of the division and that fans don't have to see him playing against the Packers. That would leave alot of people very conflicted.

I hope you saw the Press conference where they announced Favre as a Jet. He admitted that he was being mean spirited by wanting to play for Minnesota and Chicago. He said it wasn't the right thing and I'm glad he admitted it. You could also see and hear that he's really kind of wishy washy even about playing for the Jets right now. I think he really doesn't know what he wants in his life right now and that's what the Packers heard when they talked to him. It's also come out that he was offered a chance to compete with Rodgers but that he didn't want to and that he wasn't willing to put in the time and effort to commit 100% to training and film study.

I'm not trying to bag on Favre, or throw this stuff in your face or anything. It's just that it seems your so devoted to Favre that you've allowed yourself to think that he hasn't nor can do any wrong and that all of this is the Ted Thompsons fault when it clearly isn't. I'm not here to debate or argue, I just want you to take a look at all the facts. One of those being that the Packers were very good to Favre through all of this and gave him many opportunies to play again, even after he kept shooting them down. Thompson has been great for the Packers as he's responsible for hiring McCarthy and putting the youngest team in the league in a position to get to the NFC champioship last year.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Packers and the Jets this year. Not to see which one is better or anything. I am a little concerned for the Jets and Jets fans though as Favre was a system player for a long time and now he's somewhere completely different. I hope they don't try to put the whole team on his back as he's shown he's not capable of handling it. He needs a good o-line, running game and talented receivers. When he's asked to do it all himself, he throws alot of interceptions. It could be a good year or a disasterous year depending on what they expect of him. I feel that Rodgers is in the great postion and has more talent around him. They won't ask too much of him and they have a great o-line, solid running game and receivers who led the league in yards after the catch last year. It's mostly a quick and short passing system. I hope it works out and opening night against the Vikings is a great opportunity to make a statement to the league, the division and the media. I hope they don't hound him too much, comparing everything he does to Favre, as that's just not right, although they probably will. Look forward to keeping up with the teams with you.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 10:10:11 AM PDT
Hi P. G. Keller,
This is a test.
I tried responding before, but it wasn't allowed through; don't know why, I started this discussion. Hope this works.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 10:36:30 AM PDT
I'm so torn! I've never known a Packers team without Brett Favre--he is the reason I became a fan of the NFL. I can only hope that BOTH Brett and the Packers do well this year.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 6:04:25 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 18, 2008 1:24:41 AM PDT
Hey there P.G. Keller - I watched the Packer game last night and for a while the team was slugglish. As for A. Rogers--he didn't score any Boy Scout points. To tell you the truth, the new Rookie Quarterback No.11, did a better job than A. Rogers; I'll give him 3 years. I don't think he's going to be staying on for very long. No. 11 shows promise; anyway, I think he's better looking.
I was going to watch the Jets last night, but my TV provider ( took away the NFL Channel from my TV-lineup and I'm really upset about that. When I signed-up with informed that I was going to get the NFL Channel & I did. I do remember watching at least 2 or 3 football games last year. I only signed-up for 18 months; in January, it will be the end of the trail; thank God.
Bye for now.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 7:20:16 PM PDT
i think the packers will regret it if they dont win or brett favre takes the jetts to the super bowl but either way hes a good person and thats all that matters

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 8:37:45 PM PDT
What they actually should have done was sent A. Rogers to the Jets & kept Brett.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 9:12:42 PM PDT
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Right now the Packer team is a shambles; I'll give A. Rogers 3 years tops. Last night he couldn't do a thing; on the other hand--the Rookie No. 11 did better than Rogers & he's better looking. Yeah, I think No. 11 will become a great asset; my money's on him.
I would have watched the Jets last night, but my TV provider (Dish.Net) removed it from my TV-lineup and I'm not very happy about that; it was part of the lineup when I signed-up for 18 months. So glad those 18 months are almost up. Come January, plan on switching to DirectTV.
But if you ever find that the Packers & Jets are playing on the same day; watch the Jets. You kind of owe yourself the privlege to watch Brett play---right?
As for the Packers doing well this year, I have a feeling that they going to have a so-so year. And when they get new players each year, why can't they get a couple that has some height? I see these other teams with other players who really have the legs on them. Hello--! Are they short on demand? The packers need a couple of players with nice long legs, to jump and run, etc.
Well, this looks like a good place to stop; I go a bit overboard at times. Ta, ta, for now.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 17, 2008 10:19:44 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 17, 2008 10:57:20 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
Send Rodgers to the Jets??? No way, and what for? That's like punishing him for Brett's crimes. Rodgers was never the problem and he's never done wrong to anyone. Besides, he's the future.

I know no.11 Flynn looked pretty good but he's not even close to the knowledge that Rodgers has of the offense. He'll need time to develop and maybe if Rodgers doesn't work out (hope he does), he'll be a future possibility.

Why won't they get a veteran back up though? I don't care if Rodgers struggles but should he get hurt and be out a game or two, the Packers will need an experienced QB to take over and win some games till he returns and I don't trust 2 rookies for that job. Maybe if they offer Culpepper some more money, he'll come. What do you think?

2nd Packer game was a mess but alot of teams look bad right now. I wouldn't put it all on Rodgers though. The whole team couldn't get it together last night. Driver missed a long ball that hit him in the hands (again) and Lee missed and easy catch in the end zone. The o-line let him down a few times too. He wasn't great but you can't pin it all on him though. Thank God it's only pre season and they have a few weeks left to iron out the kinks. I'm sure they will though and that they'll have a better showing against the Broncos on friday.

As for short receivers, it didn't stop them from being tops in the league in yards after the catch last year, so who cares? Besides, really tall guys arent usually very fast or agile. If you look on their roster, many of them are 6'4. There are even a few that are 6'5-6'7. But the tallest ones you use for linemen.

P.S. Brett had a great game as did all of the Jets on both sides of the ball. We'll see how he does in the regular season though, as we will with Rodgers. Too early to tell in pre season.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 18, 2008 1:20:52 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 18, 2008 1:22:48 AM PDT
Hey there P. G. Keller - First of all, what does the P for your name? I'd like to shorten your name.
Culpepper? There's talk of the possibility of getting him? I guess that might be a smart idea. Maybe he can give A. Rogers a view pointers if he does join up with the Packers; Greenhorn. He's still wet behind the ears.
No. 11 is the best of the 2 Rookies. I really like him. He seems to be a quick study.. The other allowed himself to get sacked twice; what a dingy.
I get e-mail Newsletters now from the Packer & from the Jets now; want to keep track of Brett. He's my boy--sort of.
Earlier, I was getting so concerned about him, was actually considering taking a bus down to Green Bay; I live in the Madison, WI area. I had ideas popping out of my head.
Hope the Packers shape up pretty quick.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 18, 2008 4:32:09 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
Patricia, P stands for Pete. The Packers had Culpepper in earlier in the offseason and offered him a 1 yr. 1 million dollar offer and he rejected it. At that time, he still wanted to be a starter. After trying out for the Steelers and not being chosen, he then said he'd be willing to be a back up. I think he just wants to wait till some QB gets hurt, then go to whatever team needs him. I think he'd still rather wait for a starting position. But if the Packers upped the ante at this point, I think he'd have to consider it. Either way though, I think there are still some veteran QB's out there and the Packers really should get one in now to learn the offense.

I really don't see what you have against Rodgers, but it seems like you do by the comments you make about him. None of this is his fault. He got drafted. It's not like he pushed Brett out or something. Besides, you knew Brett couldn't play forever. Sooner or later, you'd have to accept the fact that a new QB would be needed. I think he's been great about this whole situation over these 3 years and especially this year, with all the questions and negative remarks he's had to deal with. He's a real character quality guy. A Packer player. I think he's earned and deserves this opportunity. Remember, he's a 1st round pick and he's had to wait 3 years to even start a game. But he's never complained or said anything negative about anyone. I don't know if he'll end up being the long term answer or not but it's got to be someone and I hope it's him. I hope you'll give him a chance before you get down on him. It's the team that matters right? And the team supports him, so we should also.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 18, 2008 4:51:09 PM PDT
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At last I finally know you have a name-----Pete!
I am giving Rogers a chance, with relctance. He's just going to have to learn how to stance & gun that football. And like I said prior, I'll give'em 3 years. But I do hope the Packers keep No. 11 around for further training. I think he did an O.K job the other night.
And speaking of Quarterbacks, I've seen preivews of a movie on TV & it titled The Longshots; is about the first female quaterback. I don't if this is High School or College related, but the movie look really good. And I think it's based on fact.
I've been trying to track it down, it's not schedlued to play in my area, at least on it's appointed date Aug. 22nd. Til later.


In reply to an earlier post on Aug 22, 2008 11:26:59 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
OK Pat, the Pack had a great game tonight in Denver and got the win 27-24 in impressive fashion. Rodgers went 18-22, 193 yds. and 2 TD's. They really went after this game after last weeks debacle in San Fran and they got the it. Jennings caught 4 passes and Driver got a TD. The defense was a little loose but they're still missing a few guys who'll be there for the season opener against the Vikes. Gotta admit it Pat, they're looking pretty good.

Brett the Jet plays the Giants this weekend. Looking forward to seeing how well and how much he plays. It's gonna be tough though. The Giants front four on defense are really aggressive. They were all over the Browns last week and the Browns have a pretty good o-line. We'll see if they can protect him.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2008 7:00:43 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 23, 2008 7:02:38 AM PDT
Hi Pete
First things first: No. 10 is Matt Flynn & No. 11 is Brian Brohn. You kind of errored.
Yes, there was improvement in last night's game, but some players got hurt, hopefully they won't be out for long.
Do you know what channel the Jets are playing? I no longer have the NFL Channel, so if it's a pay channel....
I am looking forward to seeing Brett Play as well, just have to get to a normal TV Channel. See ya on the flip side.


In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2008 1:57:23 PM PDT

thanks for doing this. I believe Ted Thompson should be fired....Flynn as our backup..we were one game away from the superbowl....six td's while I watched the Pack loose to Brian Griese.....I am so upset...

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 1, 2008 10:36:48 PM PDT
Hi Pete,

I was unable to find this discussion & started another one; you'll have to see if you can look it up. The title is simuliar.
I heard that Brett did great last weekend breaking another record; good for him. Right now I have, but plan on switching over to Direct TV sometime in December.
And just recently, bought a new TV--a Samsung, 46-inch & is Wall-Mounted. Got it over at Circuit City.
With the Packers, Al Harris is out for the Season; he is one of my favorite players. And wouldn't you know, he got hurt by 'friendly fire'.


In reply to an earlier post on Oct 8, 2008 11:58:54 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
Pat, good news is that Harris could be back in 3 weeks or so but he'll definitely be back this season. We lost Cullen Jenkins which hurts us alot but a couple guys are coming in to help out. Who knows, they may take advantage of this opportunity and become starters. I have DIRECTV just to see my Packers play every sunday. I know you've been a big Favre supporter but you have to admit that Rodgers has done very well in his first starting year. He played great last sunday and you could see he was hurting through the whole thing but he stayed in there threw for over 300 yds. and 3 td's. Thats pretty darn good. It's the defense that's killing us right now. But I'm through supporting Brett. I tried to but he keeps coming out and talking trash. When the Packers won their first 2 games, he was asked what he thought about it, he said "I played there 16 yrs., they've had 2 games, they can call me when they reach 16". What a jerk! He's a NY Jet and he still has a bad attitude about the Packers. He can't even be happy for his old teammates who he called his "friends". Yeah right Brett.

Larry, sorry for the late response but I hadn't checked my mail in some time. Yeah, it's upsetting to see the 3 losses in a row right now but I cannot put either of those on Rodgers, Thompson, or McCarthy. The defense is really banged up with injuries and can't stop the run or pressure the opposing QB's at all right now. The Packs run game still hasn't gotten off the ground and that only puts more pressure on the passing offense as well as making life easier for the oppositions defense. I'll agree with you with the backup situation though, why in the world did they not (and still won't) get a vet to backup Rodgers? Still though I blame the losses on the D.

But fire Thompson? No way. I still think he's a great GM. He's done great things in the draft and is getting playmakers who no one else is looking at. Jennings, Jones, Grant, Blackmon, and the o-line. Most of the o-line are from his drafts and they've done a great job with protection over the last few years, and that's asking alot of rookie linemen. No, I really don't like the impatience of the "win now or your fired" attitude that so many fans are exhibiting these days. Winning is tough and championship teams take time to build and season. When the chips are down (and they've barely just gone that way), you can't just say fire everyone and start all over again and again. This team may very well turn it around this sunday and get on a hot streak again. But whatever happens, I love what I've seen from Rodgers and wouldn't take Brett back for anything.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 9, 2008 9:38:30 AM PDT
Hi Pete,
Replied to you from the other & reminding you that I did start a similar discussion: No.2. Somehow lost the other, so I slightly changed the titled on No. 2. Do hope you'll jump on the band-wagon. It is located in the TV Foreum; til later.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 10, 2008 4:18:53 PM PDT
Hi Pete,
Just got the Packers E-mail Newsletter; no throwing for A. Rogers. Gee, I wonder who's going to throw the ball now?
I think the Packers need a backup--backup quarterback. Those 2 greenhorn can only do so much; but I guess only time will tell, right?
Hope to hear from you soon.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 10, 2008 10:29:57 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 10, 2008 10:31:09 PM PDT
P. G. Keller says:
Pat, I've read that though he didn't throw in practice that he'll start sunday anyway. Just like last week. I absolutely agree about the backup situation though. I've racked my brain all offseason as to why they wouldn't bring in a vet to backup Rodgers. That's a real head scratcher. The only conclusion I could come up with, on my own mind you, is that they didn't want a vet to pressure Rodgers, should he struggle this year. I imagine they may thin that the last thing they want is the media and fans chanting and clamoring for the backup if Rodgers has a couple bad games. Like I said, those where just my ideas, otherwise I have no clue why they didn't buy insurance.

Could you shoot over the title of your new discussion, I can't seem to find it. By the way, are you sure the other ones not "gettin' kind of old" because your main man is Brett Favre and it's called "Brett Favre is Selfish"? j/k

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 11, 2008 11:49:54 AM PDT
Hi Pete,
First, I sent the site your way; and title of new discussion is: No.2 - 2008 Football Season w/ Green Bay Packers & NY Jets.

The other discussion isn't because it's old--one time I went looking for it & couldn't find it, so I made a new one--so there you are, the whole story. Anyway, no big deal. Ta, ta, for now.
Your reply to Patricia Gross's post:
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 12, 2008 9:30:34 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 12, 2008 9:31:58 AM PDT
Hi Pete,
Are ya ready for a day of double-whammy of football? Jets first and then later on, the Packers. But with the Packers, cannot recall if they play middle afternoon or evening; I almost have the impression that they might be scheduled like 7:15-P.M. Guess I'll have to recheck the schedule in a bit. Til later...
Oh, by the way, yesterday, I finally managed to buy a Brett Favre Jets Shirt & have it on to watch football today.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2008 1:05:06 AM PDT

Larry - this is the site where the No. 2 - 2008 Packers/Jets discussion is located.
Be hearing from you soon.
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