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In reply to an earlier post on May 20, 2012 6:25:50 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 20, 2012 6:29:49 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Thank you for the comment my friend.
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"That emotional involvement makes for errors."----------sentence 1 of paragraph 2, from the comment of "Lisareads"
on May 20, 2012 12:30:00 PM PDT
regarding the
discussion topic, "How Big Is The Scandal" on http://Amazon.com

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(1) But with all do respect, where is your Scientific Evidence for what you refer to as ERRORS?

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If Science teaches us that ERRORS exist, then there should be an objective criteria for determining the existence of ERRORS, along with Scientific Measurements for those ERRORS.

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Where is the evidence?

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(2) Also my friend, you seem to have failed to identify a Scientific Criteria for what you refer to as an INVOLVEMENT.

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(3) Also, I am not sure that Suzanna Kruger is arguing that there is Scientific Evidence for ERRORS.

I think Suzanna Kruger was suggesting that Science is unable to determine the existence of ERRORS.

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CONCLUSION

Whereas your public remarks are appreciated my friend, there is little Objective Data to go on from what you have published.

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Posted on May 22, 2012 12:05:48 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 22, 2012 12:07:59 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Here we go again folks. Another Public School Teacher, engaging in sexual predation upon minor children in the
Public School System.


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"Melissa Dalton, Teacher, Accused Of Having Sex With Four Students



Melissa Dalton A high school art teacher in Tucson is accused of having sex with four of her students.

KVOA reports that Melissa Dalton was initially booked on four counts of sexual conduct with a minor on April 30.
After she posted bail and was released, more students came forward with details about the 33-year-old wife and mother's other alleged sexual encounters. That prompted police to add eight more counts, including six of sex with a minor."----------------- read more in the Huffington Post "Crime" Section @ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/21/melissa-dalton-teacher_n_1533664.html?ncid=webmail17

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.It's like Life---In---A----Candy---Store

The teacher provides the Criminal Intent, and the American Taxpayer provides the Candy for the Teachers, Principals, and the Coaches.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 1:43:36 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
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How Big is the Scandal?

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"A former high school physical education teacher accused of having sex with five male students is changing her plea from not guilty to not guilty by reason of insanity.

The Dayton Daily News reported in February that 33-year-old Stacy Schuler was indicted on 16 counts of sexual battery and three counts of offenses involving underage persons. She allegedly had sexual relations at her Ohio home with the five students, mostly football players at the high school, on five separate occasions from August to December of 2010."------13 July 2011 read more @:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/13/teacher-accused-of-sex-wi_n_896982.html

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What difficulty makes it difficult for Public School Teachers to establish relationships with Peers, and adults of their own Age?

Do you regard the Sexual Predation of Teachers, Coaches, and Public School Principals as normative behavior?

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If the staff of public schools are only exhibiting normative behavior, which is acceptable, can other elements of Society be permitted access to the Public Schools, to also enage in Sexual Predation, on the premise that such behavior can be Scientifically shown to be "normative"?

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In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 7:03:06 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"What difficulty makes it difficult for Public School Teachers to establish relationships with Peers, and adults of their own Age?"
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They want to be in charge. Very few people see each other as equals.

In reply to an earlier post on May 29, 2012 11:37:00 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 29, 2012 11:37:33 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
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Hey there "Lisareads". How's it going?

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ISSUE THE FIRST

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"They want to be in charge. Very few people see each other as equals."------sentences 1 & 2 of paragraph 1, from the comment of "Lisareads" on May 29, 2012 7:03:06 AM PDT regarding
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discussion topic, "How Big Is The Scandal" on http://Amazon.com

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(1) What I am wondering is whether you are able to provide objective evidence to support your assertion?

Because if you do not, this is exemplary of your continual useage of the Fallacy of the Ipse Dixit
("The-----Bare-----Assertion-----Fallacy") in these public forums.

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Do you have objective supports for your assertion?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2012 1:23:21 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
In Pennsylvania, 8 June 2012 "Bangor teacher gets prison for sex with student"

The Charge?

"Corrupting a Minor" Rachel L. Farrell, 26 Farrell was suspected of having sex with up to three other students, according to the District Attorney.

Hmm... Lots and Lots of Young Boys I guess?... More at:

http://articles.mcall.com/2012-06-08/news/mc-bangor-teacher-sex-with-students-20120608_1_gabrielle-s-marvelli-corruption-charge-bangor-teacher

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2012 5:26:27 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
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"Jacksonville High teacher arrested for sex with student"

"JACKSONVILLE, NC June 14 2012- A Jacksonville High School teacher has been arrested and accused of having sex with a student. The arrest happened around 9:30 a.m. at the school.

The Onslow County Sheriff's Office says Christopher D. Howard, 33, who is the band teacher at the school, is charged with three counts of sexual activity with a student by a teacher and four counts of indecent liberties with a student."

------read more @:

http://privateofficernews.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/jacksonville-high-teacher-arrested-for-sex-with-student-www-privateofficer-com/

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 22, 2012 1:04:54 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
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"Megan Crafton, Cheerleading Coach, Allegedly Had Oral Sex
With Indiana High School Basketball Player


A high school cheerleading coach pleaded not guilty to charges stemming from an alleged sexual encounter with an Indiana high school basketball player.

Megan Crafton, 22, a part-time assistant cheerleading coach in Shelbyville, allegedly admitted to police that she performed oral sex on the 17-year-old boy in her car in a supermarket parking lot in January."----read more @ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/22/megan-crafton-cheerleading_n_1618583.html?ref=topbar

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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 27, 2012 7:31:29 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 27, 2012 8:19:42 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
"Irene Khan, Teacher, Accused Of Having Sex With 14-Year-Old Student"

A science teacher in West Melbourne, Fla. allegedly had a sexual relationship with her 14-year-old student.

"Irene Khan, 32, is accused of having sex with the student multiple times over the course of several months during the 2011 to 2012 school year, the Brevard Times reported.

The encounters started when the student jokingly wrote his cell phone number on the chalkboard in Khan's class so a female classmate would call him, according to a police report obtained by The Huffington Post."------27 June 2012
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/14/irene-khan-teacher-sex-with-student-florida_n_1596702.html
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How BIG is the Sex Scandal in the Public School System anyway?

Will Your Son or your Daughter be molested today, or perhaps even raped?

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Also, what about the "character" of Public School Teachers?
Is there something "dysfunctional" about them, such that with all the social networking sites available to adults in the modern world, these adults are unable to attract an adult of corresponding age for an intimate relationship?

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What therefore, are the American Colleges and Universities teaching students who Major in Education?

For example; Why are Public School Teachers factually unable to provide Scientific Data on Sexual Functioning?

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It is evident, that even with the prevalence of Modern Knowledge in such disciplines such as Biology, Public School Teachers are unable to supply sufficient Data to explain why Public School Teachers need to prey upon their students.

Some of those students are adolescents.

In what way might it be known, whether or not students who Major in Education, are preoccupied with Sexual Fantasies which have Minor Children for the subject?

Are there Psychological Studies which might serve to focus on the Profile of persons who tend to think of Minor Children as the proper subject of their Sexual Fanatasies.

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Could it be possible, that some people who regard themselves as interested in the Teaching Profession, tend also to be persons who view themselves as a "Sexual Mentor" to Minor Children?

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Or, alternatively, from the other end of the Spectrum, would it be reasonable to say that Public Schools should be teaching Sex Education as early as the First Grade, so as to educate the students concerning the fact that Some Public School Teachers or Principals or Athletic Coaches are indeed, the most common sexual predatory that minor children are likely to encounter in their formative years?

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Could it be that there is an association between Drug Use and Sexual Predation by Teachers, Principals, and Coaches? If so, would Drug Testing of Public School Teachers be commendable?

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Would Parents be comfortable with Public School Teachers, Principals, and/or Athletic Coaches, for example, knowing that the staff member used Marijuana or perhaps stronger drugs?

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Finally, I would pose one more question.

If a Public School Staff member, whether Teacher, Principal or Coach, has no qualm about introducing minor children into overt sexual activity, would it be likely that the same Staff member would be likely to introduce the minor child also into Drug Use, or perhaps even Criminal Activity to supply the funds requisite for Street Drug use?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 9:22:42 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 1, 2012 9:29:31 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
"Jerry Sandusky convicted: Judge denied Sandusky lawyers' request to resign before trial" The article indicated as follows:

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"The case is poised to move to an investigation of university officials' role in reporting the charges; two ex-school administrators face trial on charges they didn't properly report McQueary's account of the suspected abuse in 2001.

Almost immediately after the verdict, Penn State President Rodney Erickson signaled an openness to quickly settle potential civil lawsuits arising from the convictions, saying the school "wants to provide a forum where the university can privately, expeditiously and fairly address the victims' concerns and compensate them for claims."

The university recently reported a $1.8 billion endowment. But both sides have reasons not to want to go to court, said Jason Kutulakis, a Harrisburg-area lawyer who specializes in child welfare and juvenile law. Victims are reluctant to get on the stand and have their credibility attacked, he said.

But "Penn State's got so much egg on their face, they probably just want to make it all go away," he said.

For now, the school is facing one lawsuit from an accuser, Travis Weaver, who was not among those represented in the criminal case against Sandusky

-----read more at: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57459514-504083/jerry-sandusky-convicted-judge-denied-sandusky-lawyers-request-to-resign-before-trial/

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Jerrry Sandusky's homosexual assaults upon young boys has led a jury to convict him.

Jurors in the two-week trial convicted Sandusky of 45 of the 48 counts.

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My question is this.

"What kind of an Education System is it, which trains teachers to rape, or molest students in their charge?"

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In a paraphrase of a line taken from a Mel Brooks film, one could say; "It's good to be the Teacher!" (or the Coach, or the Principle).

The Teacher, Coach, or Pincipal of an Elementary School, Middle School, High School or College, can look at the young people in the class room and
sigh, "Oh my!".

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 12:36:42 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
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The kind of education system that is voted on by the political majority which are Christians.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 5:11:49 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 1, 2012 5:14:18 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Thank you for the comment "Lisareads"; and how are you?

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"The kind of education system that is voted on by the political majority which are Christians."----------sentence 1 of paragraph 2, of the comment by "Lisareads"
on Jul 1, 2012 12:36:42 PM PDT regarding the discussion topic, "How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) What was the legislation concerning the Public Education System that you refer to as being "voted on"?

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(2) Do you have any objective evidence to substanitate your published assertion,
or is it your intention to continue publishe Fallacies of the Ipse Dixit in the Amazon forums?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 5:36:33 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
"(1) What was the legislation concerning the Public Education System that you refer to as being "voted on"?"
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The requirement of publicly funded education.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 2, 2012 5:03:38 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
Sentencing set in pastor-child porn case
A Hernando pastor who pleaded guilty to child exploitation will be sentenced Oct. 13 in Panola County.

Read more: djournal.com - News, Business, Classifieds, and Events in Northeast Mississippi

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 4:08:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 3, 2012 4:14:19 AM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Thank you for the comment "Lisareads". How are you?

ISSUE THE FIRST

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"The requirement of publicly funded education."----sentence 1 of paragraph 2,
from the comment of "Lisareads"
on Jul 1, 2012 5:36:33 PM PDT
regarding the discussion topic, "How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) That answer is so vague as to be meaningless in any objective context.

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ISSUE THE SECOND

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"Sentencing set in pastor-child porn case
A Hernando pastor who pleaded guilty to child exploitation will be sentenced Oct. 13 in Panola County.

Read more: djournal.com - News, Business, Classifieds, and Events in Northeast Mississippi"----from the comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 2, 2012 5:03:38 PM PDT


regarding the discussion topic, "How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) I understand your published comment. What you have failed to establish is that your comment is relevent to this discussion topic.

It is consistent with your continual habit of publishing either "Sweeping Generalizations" on a persistent basis, or publishing commentary which has no bearing on the subject whatsoever.

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Your indication is that a Pastor is sentenced in a "Child-Porn Case".
However, You have failed to establish that "a Pastor" is associated with Publicly Funded Education.

If you can show that this bears any relevencey to Taxpayer Funded Education, or Education warranted by State Statute, you might be able to demonstrate to the reading public, that the affairs of a "Pastor" have a bearing on the issue of the Sex Scandal in the Public Schools in the United States.

What exactly is the point you wish to make?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 3, 2012 8:07:24 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"What exactly is the point you wish to make?"
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There is no correlation between sex addicts and their vocation. A good percentage of the population has no sexual morals regardless of what they do for a living.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 4, 2012 9:44:03 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 4, 2012 9:44:44 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Hey there "Lisareads". How are you?

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"There is no correlation between sex addicts and their vocation. A good percentage of the population has no sexual morals regardless of what they do for a living."-----------sentences 1 & 2 of paragraph
2, from the comment of "Lisareads"
on Jul 3, 2012 8:07:24 AM PDT
regarding the discussion topic, "How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) What objective evidence can you provide which supports your assertion that there are Sex Addicts
operating in the Public School System?

(2) Why are you discussing SEXUAL MORALS in the context of the epidemic of Sexual Predation occurring in the Public Schools in the United States?

(3) Do you have any Scientific Evidence which shows that Sexual Predation or Sexual Addcition is a Moral Issue?

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We still have seen no Scientific Evidences published in this discussion topic by Suzanna Kruger, but perhaps being a teacher of Biology in the Public School System,
she can offer some Scientific Data which will show Sexual Predation upon Minor Children or Sexual Addiction to be a MORAL ISSUE. What do you think?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2012 8:23:11 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 5, 2012 6:32:11 PM PDT
Lisareads says:
It does not matter public schools, private schools, church, home schooling, the work place, boy and girl scouts, day care, summer camp, parks, stores, etc. The majority of sites on the world wide web are sexual sites.

Authorities say 52-year-old Dianna Lynn Covin was working for the First Baptist Church Creative Learning Center when she was arrested in June.

She is charged with two counts of felony child abuse.

Wellbutrin - an anti-depressant - is the drug that federal prosecutors allege Dr. Drew was paid by the pharmaceutical company to promote for its libido-enhancing effects. As Forbes points out, the feds included as part of their evidence a transcript from Dr. Drew's appearance on the national radio program "David Essel - Alive!"

A ballot measure proposing that porn actors in Los Angeles County wear condoms during filming will be put to voters in November's election.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2012 9:04:18 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
"Kathryn Camille Murray, Former Teacher,
Allegedly Had Sex With Teen In Classroom, Faces New Charges"

[Charged with Sexual Assault on a Minor]

"After being arrested and charged with sexual abuse of a child in February, Kathryn Camille Murray, a 29-year-old former teacher from Houston, Texas, is now facing additional charges accusing her of having sex with the 15-year-old student in her classroom two times, KHOU-TV reports."------readmore @ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/05/kathryn-camille-murray-former-teacher-faces-new-charges-for-sleeping-with-student-in-classroom_n_1652057.html?1341522984&icid=maing-grid7%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D176158

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 5, 2012 9:08:59 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 5, 2012 9:18:09 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
Hey there "Lisareads". How are you?

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ISSUE THE FIRST
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"A ballot measure proposing that porn actors in Los Angeles County
wear condoms during filming will be put to voters in November's election." -----------paragraph 5, from the comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 5, 2012 8:23:11 AM PDT regarding the discussion topic, "How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) Yes, I understand, however, this is the EDUCATION FORUM.

Your information fail to establish that PORN STARS IN CALIFORNIA
have a bearing on Public Education.

Perhaps you have evidence that shows that Taxpayer Dollars
which are earmarked for Public Schools are being used to fund Pornographic Movies?

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(2) Can you cite objective sources which show that the Pornographic Movies being made in California have a specific bearing upon Public Education?

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ISSUE THE SECOND

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"Wellbutrin - an anti-depressant - is the drug that federal prosecutors allege Dr. Drew was paid by the pharmaceutical company to promote for its libido-enhancing effects. As Forbes points out, the feds included as part of their evidence a transcript from Dr. Drew's appearance on the national radio program "David Essel - Alive!""-----------------paragraph 4, from the
comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 5, 2012 8:23:11 AM PDT regarding the discussion topic,
"How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) What evidence can you provide which shows that this information has a specific bearing upon the subject of EDUCATION?

(2) Are you suggesting that man American Public School Teachers are on Anti-Depressant Drugs?

(3) Are you claiming that the Libido Enhancing Effects of Anti-Depressant Drugs are the primary reason that Public School Teachers are compelled to sexually assault their students?

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ISSUE THE THIRD

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"Authorities say 52-year-old Dianna Lynn Covin was working for the First Baptist Church Creative Learning Center when she was arrested in June."-------------paragraph 2, from the
comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 5, 2012 8:23:11 AM PDT regarding the discussion topic,
"How BIG is the Scandal?

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(1) How does this have a bearing upon American Public Education?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2012 5:09:16 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"(1) How does this have a bearing upon American Public Education?"
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Anything public is public education.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 6, 2012 9:53:45 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
ISSUE THE FIRST

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"Anything public is public education."-----sentence 1 of paragraph 2
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comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 6, 2012 5:09:16 AM PDT regarding the discussion topic,
"How BIG is the Scandal? on Amazon.com

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(1) Not according to State Statutes which warrant public education.

(2) Do you have any objective evidence to cite to support your published assertion?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 7:14:12 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"(1) Not according to State Statutes which warrant public education. "
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Why would you want to trust state Statutes if they are the very same people that bring you Scandal?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 7:08:03 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 7, 2012 7:10:18 PM PDT
Bruce Bain says:
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"Why would you want to trust state Statutes
if they are the very same people that bring you Scandal?"--------sentence 1 of paragraph 2, from the
comment of "Lisareads" on Jul 7, 2012 7:14:12 AM PDT
regarding the discussion topic,
"How BIG is the Scandal? on http://Amazon.com

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(1) What objective evidence can you provide which which demonstrates factually that an issue of TRUST is critical to the reading public's understanding of the Sex Scandal in the Public Schools?

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(2) Do you have any objective evidence at all which shows that a relationship of TRUST exists concerning State Statues warranting Public Schools and warranting Teachers, Principals, and Coaches?

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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 8, 2012 8:46:20 AM PDT
Lisareads says:
"Do you have any objective evidence at all which shows that a relationship of TRUST exists concerning State Statues "
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If you compare the number of crime reported and the number of persons punished you will see that 90% of those committing crime do not believe in or obey state Statutes. That does not even count those crimes that go unreported. You are a dreamer if you think our system of government or any system works well.
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