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Initial post: Apr 27, 2011 12:52:24 PM PDT
I've been having problems with the blossoms falling off my bell pepper plants. The plants are green and healthy, and there are many flowers on it, but only one pepper has grown so far. I can see the fruits beginning to form and they just drop off. I check for aphids every morning and remove a few, 10 or less on the plants a day so I don't think that is the problem. I haven't seen any other insects on them either. They get 7-8 hours of full sun. I'm pretty sure I am not over or underwatering. It's been 85+ degrees most days, and quite windy so I don't know if that could be the problem. I live in zone 8 and was wondering if anyone else had the same problem or tips? I've grown them before but not in this climate. I'd appreciate any input! Oh and they are in containers not in the ground.

Posted on Apr 28, 2011 9:54:20 PM PDT
ellenflower says:
How about copying your post to the traditional vs container gardening discussion? Good question...I'll do some research and come back to this, but let me ask you something...have you had a lot of rain? Has it rained heavily just as the fruits are beginning to form?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2011 10:01:56 PM PDT
That's a good idea! I haven't had any rain at all actually. I live in arizona so rain is kinda scarce but the fruits are just beginning to form. I have had 2 fruits fully form on it and then the blossoms/baby fruits just started randomly falling off. I check for bugs daily and the leaves are a nice dark green so I'm almost positive I'm not over or underwatering! Thanks for trying to help! I really appreciate it!

Posted on May 1, 2011 10:53:09 AM PDT
I had a very similar problem with tomatoes, but with some differences. My fruit would grow and I would gt 2 or 3 and then the balance would grow to almost 1/2 size and then the fruit would drop off and a day or so later the entire plant died almost over night. After many inquires I found out it was nematodes in the soil.

Posted on May 1, 2011 3:24:39 PM PDT
John Jay says:
I don't know about peppers, but if you give watermelons too much fertilizer as the plant is starting to bloom or while the fruit/veggie is first forming and very early growth, the jolt of fertilizer will cause blooms/fruit/veggie to drop. Expect this is true of any plant. Wait till fruit is several days old and go lightly on the food.

Posted on May 1, 2011 6:34:00 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 1, 2011 6:41:52 PM PDT
ellenflower says:
I found a good scientific answer to the question of what causes blossom end rot in peppers, tomatoes, and watermelon plants. See:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ss497

The article has good color pictures of what bell peppers with this problem look like.

"Calcium is required in cell wall development in actively dividing and expanding cells. Calcium also is required in calcium pectate which is part of the middle lamella that "glues" cells together forming tissues (Figure 6). Under Ca deficiency, cells and tissues collapse, leak cell fluids, and die. This death of cells and tissues leads to the typical collapsed and sunken areas on the tip, or the blossom-end area of young, rapidly growing fruits."

The problem is caused by calcium deficiency, but the uptake and movement of calcium within the plant is influenced by several factors, which means that even if your soil (or growing medium) has adequate calcium, the plant may not be able to utilize it.

According to the article, excess nitrogen from over fertilization will have a negative impact, so John Jay's answer re: watermelon flowers and/or fruits dropping from excess fertilizer is true.

Also, "Growers should make sure there is ample soil moisture at night, since root pressure can serve as a major mechanism to get Ca ions into fruits."

There's more...I just don't want to type it all! Hope this helps.

Posted on May 2, 2011 9:34:30 AM PDT
Thanks for all your input everyone! I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed. I spent some time at one of the nursuries here this weekend and they said that most bell pepper plants won't produce until the fall here since it is sooooo hot but I'm going to try the morning sun afternoon shade suggestion since I can't rig up a shade cloth and hope that will help. Hot pepper plants thrive here though so I'll grow those this summer and hope the bells start producing around fall time! Thanks again everyone!

Posted on Jul 16, 2011 7:58:01 AM PDT
SLS says:
Chester: I have been growing bell pepper for years here in Ga. And yes, it gets very hot here too. From the description of your problem, in the first place it sounds as if you are using to much nitrogen as one poster suggested. When you have an excess of nitrogen you get a lot of green foliage but very little fruit, if any. The second problem is the heat. When it gets too hot, bell peppers quit producing flowers. Bell peppers can't stand too much heat. When weather is cooler, then the bell peppers start to producing more flowers. I don't know about the peppers dropping off, even though I have seen flowers dropping off when the weather got too hot. I have never seen any fruit drop off a plant before, unless it was too ripe, so I am not sure why that is happening to you since you say the peppers are not very big. Maybe someone else can figure this out. Hope you get your problem straighten out because I know how much hard work goes into taking care of vegetable plants.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2011 9:14:16 AM PDT
Thanks for the reply Sheila! You're right about how much work goes into it and it is so worth it! I'm almost certain it is the heat. It's 105+ here most days so I ended up moving it inside and putting it in a south facing window. Not great but I've gotten a handfull or two off. Better than what I'd be getting if they were outside for sure! I tried keeping them in a spot where they'd get 4 hours of sun or less and they didn't like that either. Tough climate to grow things in!

Hope everyone is getting lots and lots of goodies from their gardens! Stay cool out there = )

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2011 7:57:21 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 18, 2011 8:02:08 AM PDT
SLS says:
Here in Georgia, the area where I live, it gets to be 100 or more every day here. I think the only reason that my bell pepper plant is producing and has flowers most of the time, is because the tomato plant next to it shades it in the afternoon. I can no longer do big vegetable gardens due to medical problems and disabilities, so what I did this year, (just to have SOMETHING), was to plant a tomato bush in a 55 gallon drum (tomato plants have long roots, hence, 55 gallon drum) and I planted one bell pepper plant in a half of a 55 gallon drum, so it is a bit lower in height than the tomato plant--and they are growing right next to each other. So the tomato plant, which is very big now and has lots of foliage as well as tomatoes, overshadows the bell pepper plant--they just about touch. Because they are in mostly moisture controlled potting soil, peat, top soil and perlit, I water them at least every other day. So I think the bell pepper being shaded by the tomato plant and getting all the water it needs, are the reasons they both are doing so well.

I know it is too late this year to plant anything else, but if I were you, next year I would plant something that grows big and gives a lot of shade and then have your bell pepper plant growing next to it. It doesn't necessarily have to be a tomato plant, just any plant that grows very tall and has a lot of foliage. Hope this at least helps you for next year.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2011 8:36:30 AM PDT
That is an excellent idea! I didn't even think to do that. I still have a lot to learn. Thanks for the advice, it'll definitely help next year. I'm glad yours are doing so well! I had read somewhere (I'm not sure where I read this) that tomatos and pepper plants don't like to be close together. I guess that is just bologna so I'll definitely try that next year. Thanks again sheila!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 18, 2011 10:38:59 AM PDT
SLS says:
Chester: It is not that tomato and bell pepper plants don't like one another, it is because since they come from the same family, they are effected by the same insects and plant diseases. If you had a large garden and grew a lot of them in the ground, then yes I would say plant them with other plants in between them. That would lessen the risk of both type plants being infected with the same insects. And certain type of insects causes diseases in plants. Since I only have one plant of each and they are both in "pots" (barrels) then I have no risk at all of a soil disease and I doubt with so few plants I risk attracting a lot of flying insects to my plants. My biggest insect problem where I live are fire ants. They completely destroyed my large ground gardens 2 years in a row. Fire ants are not attracted to things that other ordinary ants are attracted to. They are attracted to woody plants and meat. For 2 years they tunneled under into my garden and built nests around the roots of my plants and ate the roots. You had no way of knowing it until you pull up the plants to see why they were either stunted or why they died for no apparent reason. Fire ants have no natural enemies, and since you can't put poisons in your vegetable garden, we put my barrels up on top of hard plastic platforms and spread Bengal around the platforms. Between that and putting wire mesh on top of the soil in the barrels, so far the fire ants have not been able to get to my plants this year. The only insect problem I have noticed at all is maybe caterpillars. I say that because I have found 3 tomatoes that were half eaten. Either it was caterpillars or a tomato horn worm. I looked and looked but could not find any, but if I had, I would have just picked them off and squashed them. That was days ago and have not found any more half eaten tomatoes, so whatever it was is gone now. Wouldn't have been a tomato horn worm though, because if you don't find them they can completely strip a plant down to the nub in a couple of days. The biggest insect problem I have found with bell pepper plants, (other than those darn fire ants), were slugs. But since your bell pepper plant is in a pot, I don't see how you would ever have that problem. Also, bell pepper plants are bad about getting "sunburned" if the plant does not have a lot of leaf coverage to prevent direct sun from burning the peppers. You can tell if a pepper is sun-burnt by soft black spots on the peppers. If you ever decided to plant both bell pepper plants and tomato plants, be sure and plant a sweet basil plant near by. Basil attract bees and bees pollinate all plants near by. And Basil also makes tomato plants grow sweeter tomatoes (when they are both grown in the ground). Also, since Basil is part of the mint family, most insects, (other than bees) are repelled by Basil--thus, helping to keep away harmful insects. Basil is also easy to store and keep if you know what to do. I have been using my basil for the last 4 years since I last planted one. Hope some of this extra info helps you since it sounds as if you are still learning all about gardening.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 19, 2011 9:43:31 AM PDT
I always appreciate any tips about gardening! I've been doing some form of gardening all my life, but small scale here and there stuff and most of it not researched well. Plus we move around a lot and by the time I get a handle on one climate we're whisked away somewhere else! But we are moving next year, hopefully staying there for good(zone 5) so I'll have to learn everything over again I'm afraid. But I like it! It's very exciting and fulfilling! But the next few years I'll be doing things on a much larger scale. We're getting 5+ acres so I'd like to have a greenhouse(and I've heard that's a whole different animal entirely) and 1 acre or so planted in ground, with pots here and there so I can snip fresh herbs for dinner. I have read a lot on companion planting and I did plant basil in the containers with my tomatos and haven't had a problem with anything. Plus who doesn't love pesto! They're doing great. I also planted marigolds and scattered them throughout the pots. But the mites here almost destroyed the cucumbers! I caught them early enough and sprayed a mineral oil/water mixture and sprayed under the leaves and that solved that but I was shocked at how quickly they hurt it! I had no idea fire ants could be so destructive! i'm glad you found a solution, that sounds like quite the headache! I hadn't heard they like to eat roots of plants! I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I haven't seen any sunburn yet but I'll keep my eye out. I try to water them early in the morning before the sun rises. I do have a few books about gardening and in different time zones but I need lots of hands on before I get it just right. I really do appreciate your input. I still have a lot to learn!

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 19, 2011 3:28:20 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 19, 2011 3:34:41 PM PDT
SLS says:
I find that interesting what you said about mites. The only insects, (other than fire ants), that have completely stumped me were red spider mites and leaf footed beetles. I just completely lost a bell pepper plant (not the one doing well), last week. I had fought red spider mites for about 4 weeks until I finally got desperate and did something I knew would probably kill the plant. There are different type of mites I found in my research, so I am not sure if we are talking about the same type or not, but the ones I had were of a orange/red color. I had the plant on my glass enclosed front porch, waiting for it to get big enough to go outside, when I noticed it was starting to get fungus gnats. Fungus gnats hate cinnamon, so I sprinkled a little cinnamon around on top of the soil. A week or so later I noticed some orange/red specks on the plant and just thought I had accidentally gotten some cinnamon on the leaves. So I didn't really think much about it or do anything right away. But a few days later, I discovered even more specks, so I started watching the specks. That was when I saw one of them move. I looked them up in a Google image search and saw photos of them. From then on, it was all down hill. I did mega research on them and almost everything I read said they were almost impossible to kill. I posted my problem on lots of forums, and got lots of advice--tried oil, water and soap--did not work, tried garlic boiled water with soap (after it had cooled), got advice from a Master Gardner who told me to spray the plant with Molasses, milk and oil--still did not work. Finally, I took the whole plant outside and sprayed the leaves off with a stream of water, got all the soil off the roots (discovered them in in twinned in the roots), and sprayed them out of the ball of roots. Then I planted the plant in a half 55 gallon drum with tomato plant food watered in. Within 2 days it died--from shock I am sure. But it was either try this or it was going to die anyway from the spider mites because by then I was finding hundreds of them every day and the leaves were almost transparent by then. Maybe you catching them early was what saved your plant--I wished I had known that was what I had the first time I saw them.

Marigolds are great to plant in a garden. I don't know about pots of them, but when you plant them in the ground in a ground garden, they kill nematodes (worms), which are parasitic worms and also destroy gardens. I use to plant several of them in my ground gardens when I had a huge garden.

Just a tip about preserving basil. I found every year that I raised basil that I could never use up enough fast enough. You have to cut the branches off when you see they are about to bloom or they loose most of their fragrance. Best to always pick basil early in the morning when basil is at it's height in fragrance (taste). I raised too many bushes, so I had a time keeping up with the basil once it really started going. I have preserved basil in 2 ways. I have dried them in a dehydrator and I have frozen them up in freezer bags. In either case you have to wash all the leaves and then scatter them around on a towel and let them dry before you can do anything with them--this is a lot of work, believe me. They have to be completely dry. When I dehydrated them, I put them in jars with tight fitting lids--without crushing them--crush only when you get ready to use any because that is when the fragrance is released. When freezing, I packed them into quart freezer bags and stuck them in the freezer. This has been the most satisfying method to me, for a couple of reasons. One, it is easier and quicker than dehydrating, lasts the longest in the freezer compared to the ones kept in jars, and 2, is just like fresh when you get ready to use them right out of the freezer. Even after 4 years my basil out of the freezer is still just like fresh. I just break off how much I want out of the freezer bag (a lot is not too much) and then on the chopping board, I chop into small pieces and throw them in whatever dish I am making.

The most information and best advice you can receive on gardening, regardless of what time zone you live in, is to join a garden forum. When I first started gardening I knew exactly nothing about gardening and I found books didn't help me all that much--because you can't ask it questions. On forums you can ask questions and have several people to answer you right back. No matter what problem you might have, someone usually knows the answer, and a lot of good advice about the best things to buy for your garden--soil, seeds, plants, etc. I was overwhelmed with my first garden and if it had not been for the forum I joined, I would have really been lost. The one I belong to even have Zone Specific and country specific categories that you can post in. So no matter where you move to, you can post there on you specific problem with your time zone. I made a lot of good friends there, even with a gardener in Alaska--now you talk about a challenge for her! Anyway, I am posting the link here and you should look it over and see what you think about the site. You can't loose anything from becoming a member and you might have a lot to gain:

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/

(Copy & paste in browser if the above is not clickable.)

Sheila

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 19, 2011 11:24:10 PM PDT
Oh ya they're red spider mites but luckily the mineral oil/h20/ dish soap mix worked for me. I don't know what I'd do if it didn't work. My hubs dad said to put sevendust on my plants but I refuse, especially for plants in bloom. I do organic only. Period. When I visited the local nursery they said whenever the wind gets horrid that the mites come out to play. So I check really well after it gets windy. But still, it seems only the cucumbers are affected for some reason! None of the other ones get affected at all thank god(my salvia and tomato had cutter worms but I found them right quick!)But like you said about catching them early, I lost 2 before I realized something was really wrong until I googled them. Did you ever find a solution to them?

I think the marigolds have worked at least a little. I haven't really had a bad bug problem. I had aphids on my pepper plants until I discovered a baby praying mantis and baby ladybugs and they cleared up the problem in a matter of a week! Really amazing bugs in my opinion. I also have a bird bath and feeder(hummingbird and wildbird) to deter bugs. I swear my biggest problem is the heat and as a mississippi native I never thought I'd have that problem. Even after moving my bells inside they flower, form fruit, and then prompty drop off. Probably 1 in 5 end up forming a mature fruit, really frustrating!!!

I absolutlely love basil! I use most of it up(guilty of just eating it off the bush) making pesto and putting it in anything and everything! I store them in little ice cube trays and just toss the ice cube or 2 into tomato sauces. Love it! One of my favorite culinary herbs ever!

I will definitely look into the region we are moving to and join a gardening forum! I've read a lot of posts about this area and mostly they cover the basics! But like you said you always have a question about something so that will definitely come in handy, especially being a new climate to me! Wow alaska is rough alright! Bless her being able to grow anything at all! I like to think of myself as a natural green thumb, I rarely kill anything, just certain plants I have issues with as of now. But It's always a plus to have advice from pros in the area!

Again thank you so much for your advice! It's always great to learn something from fellow gardeners!

Posted on Jul 21, 2011 12:11:04 AM PDT
SLS says:
No, I never got rid of the spider mites until after I killed the bell pepper plant by putting it into shock. I knew it probably would die with all the washing of it I did, but the alternative was that it was going to die any way from the spider mites. Luckily it was not out in the yard, next to the other plants, when I discovered it had spider mites or my other plants might have gotten infected too! You were right not to put any Sven on your plants for the spider mites because everything I have read about them, insecticides and chemicals only make them worse. I too try to do only organic when it comes to my vegetable plants. The only thing I have ever used that was not made in my home, was Diatomaceous Earth. Even organic farmers use it because it breaks down in the soil and is good for it. Also, farmers use it by mixing it in their feed for their horses and cows and it keeps down intestinal worms--works on cats and dogs too for that purpose. Good for fleas on pets too. The only reason I ever hesitated when using it, was because it will kill earth worms. If you are not familiar with it, you should look it up some times and see what all it is really good for. It is non-poisonous to humans and animals.

Have no idea why your plant keeps loosing its flowers and fruits after you moved it inside. Maybe someone else would know the answer. Maybe on one of the garden forums I was telling you about would know--someone usually knows.

I have never eaten basil right off the bush, cherry tomatoes yes, but not basil. I have read of people putting basil in ice trays, but I wouldn't have enough trays or room for them in my freezer if I put up all the basil that I grew. I have quarts and quarts of it put up.

Good luck with your bell pepper, how you get it figured out, and good luck on your move to another area.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2011 3:01:41 PM PDT
Nancy says:
Peppers fail to set when it's TOO HOT. Just ignore all these other people. If the plant is healthy and they fall off and turn yellow, it's HEAT.

I don't eat 'em, but I used to grow an entire garden-full for my boyfriend, who sadly died of a heart attack.

They LOVE water, not flooding--but watering daily, and HOT peppers should have water withheld somewhat towards the end, it makes them hotter. (stress)

I just noticed you said they are in POTS. So if it's REAL hot one week, stick them in a spot that's shaded only in the hot afternoon.

You can kill aphids and other bugs that love peppers with plain old dish soap in a rinsed out windex bottle. Water it down til it's just soapy and runny, and spray on the affected area. This also works for: Japanese bettles, and FLEAS. Water the grass with a ton o soap. Make sure it stays wet for several hours, and good and soapy. (keep the kids inside, so they don't slip and fall) Better method for fleas is Advantage, let the kitty go out and they kill all the fleas in the yard.

You can find out ALL about Peppers by getting the catalog from the Pepper Gal, or STOKES, which has info on plants you never even HEARD OF, along with all the rest. YOu may find pepper growing info on peppergal.com

Watch out, they have 100s of varieties, you will be tempted.

Nancy

Posted on Aug 8, 2011 4:33:22 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 8, 2011 4:46:56 PM PDT
layla says:
I'm in northern Iowa, and my peppers are doing the same thing. Good looking, healthy plants-in the ground.They flower but no fruit.My Dad grew lots of green peppers in this same garden 40 years ago in full sun.I've had no luck for several years.I have the marigolds in the garden and tomato plants are overshadowing them.Have seen no insect damage.Have had hot weather,but so did he!I'm leaning more to the chemical properties of the soil itself.I have tilled under old green bean plants & tree leaves.Need of have local ISU extension service test soil in spring.Maybe too much nitrogen.I have no problem growing bush beans at all.Cucumbers also failed last year.

Posted on Aug 17, 2011 11:43:37 AM PDT
ellenflower says:
One more thought on blossoms falling off, and I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner....
If the flowers don't get pollinated, then they won't form fruit (peppers, in this case), and they will just drop off. Maybe there are no insects to do this very important job in your neighborhood??
Try your hand at pollinating with a very small paintbrush, like the kind they sell in children's watercolor sets.

Posted on Aug 17, 2011 12:26:32 PM PDT
Thanks for all the replies guys! It's much appreciated.

New bride: Ya it is definitely heat! It is just scorching hot all day every day and it seems like the only plants enjoying it are the tomatos, jalapenos, and cucumbers. I will definitely have to check out other varieties. I've seen there are some that are suitable to 100+ degrees. Thanks for your post!

Layla: I agree. I would definitely get the soil tested next year. Can't hurt to try! Maybe you could ask dad for some advice if he is around to give it? Maybe he had a little trick up his sleeve! Good luck!

Ellen: I have had to hand pollinate the cucumbers this year but I thought peppers were self pollinating. I don't know why I thought this but if not that is probably part of the problem right there! I didn't even consider that. It's worth a shot. Thanks!

Posted on Aug 17, 2011 9:45:47 PM PDT
SLS says:
Chester, I do think that bell peppers are self-pollinating because this year I have not seen even one bee! My bell pepper plant has produced and produced, and no bees were around and I did not manually pollinate them by hand. OBTW, that bell pepper plant that I told you I killed by putting it into server shock, well I was wrong about killing it. After about 2 weeks of doing nothing and looking as if it were dead, I happen to walk by it and notice a couple of small green shoots coming out of the main trunk. I thought to myself, maybe I should start paying attention to it--so I watered it and watered some tomato plant food into the soil. After that, I watered it every time I watered my other 2 plants. That was some time ago and now it is getting bushy and has flowers and even some tiny bells on it. I am just amazed--it is as if it rose from the dead! It is very hot here in Georgia too, and very dry, but yet all my plants keep producing. Maybe it is due to the different things I put in the barrels when I first planted them. I guess I am lucky. Hope your luck changes--probably as Fall approaches they will start producing again because it will be cooler weather. Good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 18, 2011 8:00:22 AM PDT
That's awesome! I'm so excited for you! Just goes to show their will to live and produce. It is ungodly hot still but I'm hoping as it cools down next month it will begin to produce more and more. It's still happy and I get probably one or two off it a week. Better than nothing. Thanks for the reply!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 19, 2011 12:18:44 PM PDT
It is too hot for plants in full sun to hold their blossoms or small fruit. I put up shade cloth that is 50% weave or put up a light colored
bed sheet over the plants to cut down on the sunlight.Theresea Green zone 9-a Texas

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 21, 2011 7:25:51 PM PDT
Had the same problem. Found out it was a lack of magnesium. Used epsom salts (from the drug store not garden shop - cheaper at drug store) mixed with water and sprayed on plants. Last two years no peppers. Beginning of this year, no peppers. After spraying, have harvested 3 large peppers so far, with 4 more ready to harvest soon and several flowers setting new little peppers. I have also found that epsom salts has a magnesium and is good for a lot of other vegetable plants and flowers. You can also add some epsom salts into the soil when planting is the spring, but I think it is easier just to spray. Hope this helps.

Posted on Aug 22, 2011 7:45:14 AM PDT
Theresea G: I have considered putting up a shade cloth but the only way I could rig it up my landlord won't let me. I'd have to kinda hang it between two posts and we're not allowed to attach anything to the property in any way(they're kinda nuts about it) but we are moving this year to a home so definitely will be able to do something like that next year! Thanks for the reply!

Theresa D: I had tried that in the soil but I hadn't thought to spray it. Does it absorb faster through the leaves than the roots? I'm glad you found something to help, that's great! I will definitely try that this week and certainly next year! Thanks for the advice!
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