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Initial post: Oct 4, 2010 9:23:44 PM PDT
So, i hope there are a few people who read Guitar Player Magazine cover to cover each month like me. What i love about Guitar Player is the musically eclectic nature of it , not only what's current or nostalgia but a broad range of music and topics.

Each month maby we can discuss the magazine anything about it , even the ads.

This month i'm drawn to the low watt amp roundup , just like Glen brought up on another thread, The Mesa (as usual) is really interesting to me. And comparetavly affordable.

How do you rate Zappa? To me he is (exuse the cliche) an enigma a force but i only own one of his records.

Loved the interview with Robby Krieger a great and moody guitarist. But as the interview pointed out a great songwriter.

What do you think about this months Guitar Player Magazine?

Posted on Oct 5, 2010 12:00:23 AM PDT
D. Mok says:
I stopped reading American guitar magazines regularly a while ago. Their gear reviews are way too lenient. About half of the products they review, or more, get the "Editor's Pick", "Gold" or "Platinum" awards for quality, which makes those accolades mean nothing.

For the past eight or nine years, I've read mostly imported UK guitar magazines -- Guitar & Bass, Guitarist and Total Guitar. Expensive, but they have far better layouts, photography, and reviews that, while still a bit too positive, usually also get into the flaws in the products. Plus they have a more eclectic range of coverage (eg. in one issue you could get French brand Vigier, Polish brand Mayones, now-defunct British brand Maverick, Australian brand Maton...). American guitar magazines have way too much metal, and rarely allow space for small boutique brands, and they're also a lot more shallow when it comes to guitar analysis. You rarely get the information on construction, pickups, electronics, dimensions, and other nitty-gritties of guitar sound that I get from Guitar & Bass or Guitarist. Also, for some reason, the UK magazines seem to get information out faster. There is a delay in shipping them here -- you'd often only get the October issue in November -- but for some reason, I found out about the cutting-edge releases like Gibson Dark Fire and Dusk Tiger, the Fender VG Stratocaster, the D-Tar Mama Bear and the T-Rex Mudhoney II months before the American publications ever mentioned them.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2010 5:00:41 AM PDT
joeyboy55 says:
Agree totally about the American mag gear reviews. No product seems to have any problems, if you believe them. There MUST be some variation of quality, value, etc., but all the reviews (when I quit reading them a while back) were overwhelmingly positive. Not credible.

Posted on Oct 5, 2010 6:44:46 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 5, 2010 7:16:13 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
I actually like the gear reviews more than almost another part of GP these days and i still have all their mags I've collected from the '70s out.
Not too interested in artists i don't know about (i know,,,closed minded maybe,,,sometimes curious after reading an article, however) and not too interested in new technique (unless examples are song related,,,not into showing off some speedy scale @ GC).

The gear reviews are usually pretty good, i think. They will often point out things like buzzing frets ( a quick adjustment of a truss rod or bridge needed) or maybe mention that a footswitch should be included for a given product's price point.
I also feel that gear quality in general is good these days, but do recall times where GP would sometimes state they needed to ask for another example of an amp to replace one that was malfunctioning, or replace a tube that was bad (though shipping could be at fault here).

Not trying to be a fan-boy here,,, i'm on the fence about reupping when my current subscription expires.

Posted on Oct 5, 2010 3:56:46 PM PDT
I read Guitar Player, Acoustic Guitar, and Mojo. Mojo from the UK because of it's focus on American roots music and old soul, blues and rock. All other guitar magazines fit the description of shallow, trendy and shills for products. But i like Guitar Player for its diversity of -styles of music and products reviewed. In this months issue they review and compare low watt amps and have many different musical styles not just metal.

I guess this discussion won't work if no one likes it or reads it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 5, 2010 5:59:36 PM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
I kinda got off on the wrong foot, Anthony and i'm sorry,,,abit grumpy in the morning, i guess plus i'm usually pressed for time as i try to squeeze in some online time before i go to work. Found myself defending the reviews instead relating to the topic at hand (will continue to dig the reviews...i love gear).

I actually do like Guitar Player magazine but Vintage Guitar appeals to me these days abit more (maybe i'm becoming 'vintage' myself).

Guitar Player has always had a reputation of trying to cover as much ground as possible and thats great. VG had an interview with Toulouse Englehardt and i didn't pay too much attention but when i saw him in GP, i became a little more interested, though acoustic players don't do much for me.

Kinda liked the Greg Lake interview in the new issue. My first indoor concert was ELP at The Civic Auditorium in (now the Bill Graham Civic), Brain Salad Surgery Tour.

Posted on Oct 5, 2010 8:23:33 PM PDT
D. Mok says:
> I guess this discussion won't work if no one likes it or reads it.

Well, just because I don't read it regularly anymore doesn't mean I don't read it, period. I used to love the guest instructors they had. Much to my surprise, Dimebag Darrell (R.I.P.) wrote some great columns that helped me acquire some new tricks, even though I didn't play his style of music. Zakk Wylde's column was great, and the best one hands-down for me was Richard Lloyd ("Guitar Alchemy"), who gave an explanation of scale modes that was the best and clearest I've read.

Some of Guitar Player's editorial work is downright embarrassing. They seem to have editors who don't have any skill in grammar and proofreading. But there are good issues I pick up from time to time.

Low-wattage amps is a pretty good topic, but again, I don't think Guitar Player does a good job comparing different pieces of equipment. It just doesn't cast a wide enough net -- always Vox, Fender, Line 6 and Marshall. For example, Watkins just re-released the Dominator, but I don't see it mentioned in American publications. What about Dr. Z? Bogner? Cornford? With guitars, what about Eastwood, Jerry Jones, Parker, Burns, Duesenberg? Anybody can walk into any store and find out for himself what these Marshalls, Fenders and Voxes sound like. I would rather they concentrated on stuff you can't find easily, so that you'd know to look for it and open up your horizons (that's how I got my T-Rex Bloody Mary overdrive, Durham SexDrive boost, and Eastwood Red Special guitar). Guitar Player's eye towards products is a lot like your average guitar-store employee's -- popular brands only, lacking in personality.

Guitar & Bass used to run these comparison pieces frequently, and it wasn't afraid to take a stand, while also being more innovative with their comparisons. For example, it ran an article on lighter guitars intended for female players, where it asserted that the Gibson Les Paul Vixen looked great but lacked tone -- an opinion which my own playing experience has supported -- while giving the edge to Daisy Rock. It did a piece on compressor pedals and gave the top prize to Carl Martin, not the bigshots like Boss or MXR (but Boss won, deservedly, in the chorus-pedal sweepstakes).

For general music, Uncut is one of my favourite magazines. Rolling Stone whored itself out a long time ago. Lady Gaga and Britney Spears got their covers while musicians par excellence like Joe Bonamassa, Shannon Wright, Sarah Slean, Jon Brion, Kaki King, Greta Morgan and Neko Case have yet to make it.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 6, 2010 6:35:59 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 6, 2010 7:03:56 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
A Dr. Z Monza is the first reviewed in tha latest issue, the colummn 5 Low wattage Amps,,,along with a Egnater Tweaker, Mesa Boogie Transatlantic, Victoria Ivy League, and 65 Amps Tupelo, so a pretty good range ($399 for the Egnater head, $2395 for the 65 Amps 112 combo).

One thing i've noticed in the last couple of years is more 'wallet friendly' equipment being reviewed. The times being what they are, this makes sense.

ps,,,i tend to agree about the editing, however.
Wish i knew what the 3rd control is on the Victoria Ivy League amp,,,they only list Volume and Tone in the Control column of the Specifications page ('here we go again, go again, go again'---a Dave Mason tune).

Posted on Oct 6, 2010 9:57:18 AM PDT
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D. Mok says:
Glen, I stand corrected. I think I *have* seen more appearances by more obscure, smaller brands in the last year or two, but still not as much as the European publications. (Is it me, or does Guitar Player include more obscure amp makers than guitar and effects makers?) My enthusiasm is also stunted by the fact that when they do include smaller makers, their reviews read to me as disingenuous and far too lax.

Guitar & Bass, for example, tested out the Watkins Dominator with several different guitar setups to test out what the amp was famous for producing. It made the point that smaller amps tended not to respond well to Gibson SGs because SGs have a powerful midrange output, but asserts that the Dominator reissue doesn't have this problem. *That's* the kind of information I look for. In an SG feature, where they tested three models in Gibson's SG range ('61 Reissue, Standard, current Faded Special with humbuckers) and four models in Epiphone's range (Iommi signature, G-400, G-310, Special), going through everything -- sound, playability, wood, pickups, cosmetics, construction. How useful would that be for a new player who wants an SG? They also did a "P-90 pickup shootout" several years ago and didn't spare famous makers like Seymour Duncan (for its high price), Lindy Fralin (not enough top end) or Gibson (brittle). They realize that criticisms don't mean a bad review. I love the sound of Gibson P-90s, and it's not like I'll dismiss what they say. What is the point of reading a review if it doesn't make a stand and look at both positives and negatives?

It helps that Guitar & Bass has a product reviewer, Huw Price, who is a professional producer who has worked with David Bowie, Primal Scream and Nick Cave. His insights tend to be very practical, and give players useful information; his reviews feel like your producer giving you advice on which guitar to use on your recording, which I find extremely helpful.

And no, I don't work for Guitar & Bass. I'd just argue that there's a reason I pay $16 for every issue of this magazine versus the $6 or $8 for an issue of Guitar World or Guitar Player.

Posted on Oct 6, 2010 2:28:06 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 6, 2010 2:34:21 PM PDT
Hey Glen,

I have to check out Vintage Guitar sounds cool. I liked the Greg Lake article just because i had never read an interview with any of the ELP guys. But the Steve Winwood piece peaked my interest because he is less known as a guitar player. They mention on the song "Can't Find My Way Home" (Blind Faith) that he played a " now-discontinued nylon string Fender Telecaster Classical Thinline". I had never heard of a nylon string Tele ! And the sound of the guitar on that song was always hard to duplicate and real unique , always loved the song and the eerie guitar sound.

Hey D Mok,

You're right about the editor. In the 90's i think they changed from Joe Gore? The current empty headed editor column i don't even bother to read anymore whereas before i looked forward to it. And i will check out Guitar and Bass Magazine, sounds great. i get your point about reviewers with experience and critical views. Guitar Player has shortened many of its articles and has more short ones than a few in depth long ones. The exception being with a couple of in depth musician interviews. So maby the short cursory style as well as less informed reviewers ends up with less informative product reviews.

The Mesa amp peaks my interest for it's price and diverse sounds. But the review of the Taylor 8 string Barritone interests me because i'm always on the lookout for a easy to play 12 string and this guitar solves that in a novel way. But of course is high priced.

As usual Steve Lukathers column is great about using his influence Larry Carlton (Glen i saw your post on Kid Charlamane) but always be yourself.

I do enjoy my Guitar Player even some of the ads . This month on the back had the Framus guitar and amp. I liked the look of the guitar a lot with the bigsby and the nice curves.

Maybe we can discuss topics from any monthly music mag each month. After all print is a dying species i keep hearing. But i like the actual paper compared to a screen.

Last night i wrote a similar post around 2am and when i posted it Amazon said error we are working on the problem and like that my post was gone never posted, real annoying, so i hope it works this time.

Posted on Oct 6, 2010 2:36:15 PM PDT
D. Mok says:
> Guitar Player has shortened many of its articles and has more short ones than a few in depth long
> ones.

Excellent point. I hadn't even formulated my thoughts on that one. So many of their articles are one lousy page, and a third of that tends to be donated to "music history" lessons introducing the artist. Yeah, I need to hear the story about the death of Bon Scott again, thank you very much.

> But the review of the Taylor 8 string Barritone interests me because i'm always on the lookout for a
> easy to play 12 string and this guitar solves that in a novel way.

Ever tried the Martin Roger McGuinn signature? I haven't seen one myself, but it's a 7-string that has the crucial G string (the highest octave string on a 12-string) doubled with an octave.

> After all print is a dying species i keep hearing. But i like the actual paper compared to a screen.

Couldn't agree more. And you can't -- or probably don't want to -- bring a Kindle or a laptop into the bathroom with you.

> As usual Steve Lukathers column is great

Wait a minute, he's writing one right now? Or did you mean something I seem to remember -- the last page of the magazine when he was talking about doing a commercial jingle?

If they give him enough space, Lukather would be an absolute treasure trove of information.

Posted on Oct 6, 2010 5:47:27 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 23, 2010 7:46:43 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
Real happy to see the pleasant exchange here, D and Anthony...i'll try to catch up...
Hi, D. Mok...
You mentioned Cornford earlier and I seem to recall a GP review a few years back of one of their amps,,,man, it was either the Harlequin or the Hurricane,,,its here some where.
I feel Guitar Player tries to test gear that is at least somewhat accessable to the average player.

As far as guitars go, I was surprised when they reviewed a guitar i have, The Jay Turser JT55P, a little SG Special knock off, covered around '07,,,$229 street and they liked it. Really took me by surprise (no, it didn't get a Pick Award, lol).

Another review from the past i'm trying to find is of the CyberTwin, written when these first came out around 2001.
They liked it, but stated something like 'the further the amp models ventured from Fenderdom, the less magical the results', so it didn't get a Pick Award, but they did have the brains to mention 'this is a 2 12 open back combo amp' so thinking its going to thump like a Marshall Vintage 30 loaded 1960B cab would be asking alot.

I've had mine for abit over 5 years now, bought from my old co-guitarist who bought it used himself and used it at many of our rehearsals before i bought it (for all i know, the other guy bought it used as well) and i would gig with it tonight if i had to...its been great....used it on 2 gigs when i got it as well as 10 or so rehearsals myself.

I like the Posh/Poor column. This month has Buddy Guy, circa the release of Sweet Tea, a killer, btw.
The Posh amp suggestion is a CyberTwin SE,,,Buddy used a First Gen model like mine on this cd...pretty cool.

Anthony...
Vintage Guitar is pretty sweet. I don't know if it's aimed at my age group (53,,,some '50s hero's referenced as well as those from the '60s and beyond) or what, but it seems to make me happy everytime an issue arrives in the mail. GP columnist Dave Hunter 'moolights' with VG and has turned in some great articles regarding vintage amps.

I'm still the fence with Luke, though (maybe if he'd smile or something...). I really miss the FlashBack column. I agree Luke is a wealth of knowledge. I used to like the Tommy Tedesco "Studio Log'" column from the late '70s and early '80s.

man,,,that's enough, i think...wow.

Posted on Oct 6, 2010 10:57:10 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 6, 2010 11:18:27 PM PDT
D Mok ,

The Martin Roger McGuinn signature sounds like a perfect fit because he used a Rickenbacker (an electric) so a sig. acoustic would be perfect. But as usual probably way too costly. Any baby boomer signature product is priced for guys who can can afford a Ferrarri , just as a matter of economics. But i'll see if i can find one at my local stores just to check it out.

Are either of you intrigued the Steve Winwood article mentioning a nylon string Tele, what the heck , i never heard of it. And in 69 not Earl Klugh in the 80s with a modern electric nylon string, A Tele? That song is a personal favorite but in all the years i've read about one off guitars or defunct models a nylon Tele never came up. And the sound on "Can't find my way Home" is unmistakable and unique.

Steve Winwood really is an all around menace a guitar player, an organ player, a great singer, and a really great songwriter. He is popularly stereotyped with his 80s stuff but Traffic is one of the best bands to hit the stage and his singing in the Spencer Davis Group compare to any soul singer alive.

Glen,

Sweet Tea is a baddass album and really different from Buddy's other stuff real slow, swampy and moody. Like CCR and Tony Joe White but through Chicago. i'm gonna have to pull that one out haven't listened in a while.

Buddy Guy , Magic Sam , and Otis Rush the holy trio of the New Chicago School. Of course new in the sixties. But all three are the templalate for the then modern rockers who loved the blues. And still today blues and blues rock hasen't strayed far from these three.

Posted on Oct 7, 2010 9:39:19 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 23, 2010 7:42:24 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
Hi Anthony...Agreed about Sweet Tea. It rocks pretty hard for a blues album.
Yeah, Winwood is pretty amazing...
Way back in '69 when i was 12 , i'd get picked up early Saturday mornings by my brother to go mow his lawn for a few dollars.
I remember one Saturday, he had just bought Blind Faith the night before (jam room cover) but didn't know if he liked it, so before i started on the lawn, he played the opening track Had To Cry Today for me, and that Riff was all i could think about. I spent my earnings on that album and still have it (relic'd would describe its condition,,,have it on cd, too).

Somehow i always thought things were double-tracked by Eric on this tune, but nearly hit the floor when i saw footage of Crossroads '07 and saw both Eric and Steve tearing it up,,,man, what a mindblower (Joe Bonamassa loved this tune as well,,,not only covered this tune, but named an album after it...it's in my 'top 3' by him with Black Rock and You And Me).

Should have known better. Low Spark Of High Heeled Boys has some great guitar playing on it and i knew Steve was the primary guitarist there.

You mentioned Can't Find My Way Home. I love this one, too. Went to visit my neighbor's house last weekend and someone came to the door. While he was talking to them, i took one his guitars off the wall (a memphis bolt on ES 335 copy, no neck HB,,,pretty cool cheapie he's had for almost 30 years) and ran through this tune. He dug it.

Posted on Oct 7, 2010 10:35:04 AM PDT
D. Mok says:
> Are either of you intrigued the Steve Winwood article mentioning a nylon string Tele, what the heck , i
> never heard of it.

The Fender Custom Shop produced some real oddities back in the day. Currently there's the Acoustasonic Telecaster, with a Telecaster pickup at the neck but an acoustic bridge with a piezo system and an acoustic preamp. At New York's 30th Street Guitars, I was shopping for an electric 12-string and found a 12-string Telecaster. Not a Venus, not a Fender XII, not a Stratocaster 12-string, a Telecaster. Never even knew they produced one until I saw it.

Posted on Oct 8, 2010 2:56:40 AM PDT
Glen,

I love Had To Cry Today what a riff and the Chorusy sound of the guitars is so cool. You can play Can't Find My Way Home-Very Cool. Steve Winwood really is a pretty cool player.

D Mok,

A 12 String Tele, man. I love the oddities as much as the standards. But , a Rickenbacker has that twangy sound so a Tele with 12 strings makes a little sense. Maybe they were going for the Beatles/ Byrds market.

Posted on Oct 22, 2010 3:42:26 PM PDT
Antinomus says:
I seem to be in a thread-bumping frame of mind today...

I've mentioned on other threads that I have subscriptions to Guitar Player and Guitar World. I can't afford any Euro subscriptions, which is too bad, but I guess I'll live.
Right now, Guitar World has sunk so low(3D issue, anyone?)that I have decided not to re-up, but I think Guitar Player is at least putting in some effort. They're interfacing with the online community, directly, and while this hasn't yet turned GP into the ultimate players' resource, it does show that they are willing to be flexible.

I gotta make a correction about what D. said in an earlier post about the Richard Lloyd column. That was a major turning point in my musical education, as well, but it actually appeared in Guitar World, not Guitar Player. His column debuted with the first GW issue that incorporated the fallen Guitar One, and was printed alongside columns by Vic Juris on Jazz and Tom Kolb on playing lead; among other former G1 content.
They've since culled most of the instructional content that interested me and replaced it with reams of popular metal trends and retro-rehashes.
GW also has far more editing guffaws and trite editorials and articles than GP and it's been getting worse over the past year, or so.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2010 7:38:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Oct 23, 2010 8:30:57 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
Welcome back, HD7,,,haven't heard from you in a while.

I had a subscription to Guitar World in the late '90s and early '00s but gave most of these issues to my niece when she wanted to learn how to play about 7 years ago (don't think she did much,,,last i heard her brother was playing more,,,a squier strat pak). Wound up being 2 shopping bags worth.

I've often thought that GW was aimed more at younger players and thats ok with me.

ps,,,i noticed another editorial miscue,,,well, maybe i'm nit-picking but in the latest issue of GP, they commented that the Dr.Z Monza is named after a race track and that in someways might be true, though a Dr. Z ad in this mag shows the Monza with Z28 and a Karmen Ghia models, so i think the Monza is named after the performance Corvair model from the '60s (i'm a bit of a car guy). There's a Red one locally i see once in awhile....sweet little ride...i know, "unsafe at any speed".

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2010 7:59:34 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
On the topic of Blind Faith, i heard a crazy bit on the radio the other day...
Apparently Ginger Baker was having trouble using his ATM account, so he had an assistant help him (some gal from Nigeria, i think).
Unfortunately, she took out something like $47,000!! that bites,,, poor Ginger.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2010 9:32:07 AM PDT
Antinomus says:
Thanks for the welcome, Glen. Good to be back!
Good call on the Dr. Z/classic car connection, by the way.
Very Sherlock Holmes of you.
"You see, Watson, this advert, printed in the very same publication as the critical review of the amplification machine, confirms my suspicion about the nature of the Dr.'s scheme..." ;)

Posted on Oct 23, 2010 6:22:40 PM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
Thanx, HD7...
D. Mok mentioned the Dr. Z amps earlier and though the local watering hole (music store) had a few examples the last time i was there, i wasn't up to trying out any,,,i'd actually called in sick at work (i was, really) but cruised down there to drop off mailing list thing for a possible 'free door prize' thing, anniversary sale,,,no new free toys for me,,,oh well,,, still digging the DeltaTone $75.00 special i bought there during the summer.

Posted on Nov 4, 2010 6:17:12 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
So, i just got the latest GP "Holiday" issue w/ Santana on the cover in the mail yesterday, though i've only had the time to skim through it so far...Looking forward to the interviews with:
Chimaira (i saw these guys w/ Dragon Force and Kill Switch Engage in '07...i liked Chimaira the best)
David Hidalgo (beeen a Los Lobos fan since i heard "Don't Worry, Baby" from the first album,,,sorry Cesar isn't in the mag as well)
and of course the "5 Mid-Powered Amps" round up.

Posted on Nov 5, 2010 1:24:38 AM PDT
Glen!

World Champs!!!!!!!! Just saw The Beard on Jay Leno and i watched the winning game at city hall and went to the parade , crazy. I watched the several hour tele-cast of the parade three times now. I can't believe it. Lovable losers no more. And a true team no primadonnas. Bochy is a genius.

Just got the GP issue like the amp roundup and can't wait to read the David Hidalgo article, he's a real tasty player. When i read the issue i'll have something to say , just skimmed it.

Posted on Nov 5, 2010 6:10:44 AM PDT
Glen Kepic says:
I'm still in awe of the Giants winning the World Series, Anthony, and i agree completely with your assesment of the team. I was a bit 'spent' from Sunday's win, but was stoked when they won it all on Monday,,,Glad you were 'in the mix'.

This latest GP issue is pretty cool. Seemed like Carlos was in a bit of a grumpy mood in this interview, but i liked it just the same.
I haven't read all the articles yet myself, so its all good. I'll check back later.

Posted on Nov 5, 2010 10:39:00 PM PDT
I just read the David Hidalgo article, along with the cool article with Andy Johns talking about working with Free. Of course he mentioned the vibrato of the great Paul Kossoff but mentioning the bass player Andy Johns as the leader was interesting i always thought of the dynamic of Free as the bass being the lead in melody and focus and he approved my suspicion.

But Hidalgo is very cool his approach and taste always reminded me of Billy Gibbons just simple and tasty. But after reading the article i'd really like to get the record. Like how he switched between the bridge and neck pickup to make it sound like two players. And the Club 23 in Brisbane i've been to. The CD of Jimmy Rivers playing there in the early sixties is baddass. He's playing that chickin pickin stuff with western swing jazz quickness in a small combo , real cool and raw but virtuosic rather than slow country stuff. Love his choice in many overdrive and distortion boxes to layer the sound.
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