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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 22, 2007 3:18:08 PM PST

Natural food sourced cleaners worked the best for me.

I've personally overcome many health problems I had as a child through changing my nutrition intake dramatically. (Allergies, severe insomnia, liver problems, bone density problems, low thyroid function, polycystic ovarian syndrom, low ability to digest foods, severe acne, visual fluctuations, nerve sensitivity, severe back & knee pain to name a few.)

I've been on a parasite cleans, a colon cleans, and a candida cleans recently.

My experience has been that the most dramatic changes have come through improving my intake of organic vegis, trace mineral supplementation and herbs helped the most. Second to that, drinking fruits and vegis that cleans seemed to help repair my liver and kidneys from the damage they had accumulated. I took high levels of pomegranate juice, organic cranberry juice and fresh blueberries.

Keeping toxins out of my body seems easier than cleaning them out once they get there. However, the candida cleans and the colon cleans have helped improve my energy, imune system, and I lost about 5 pounds around my waist that has not come back after 6 months.

It takes about 20 years for advances in science to make it to mainstream nutrition (if they don't disrupt the billions in revenue from big pharmacy profits) so right now, many alternate treatments are not recognized and will not be recognized. The best thing for me has been to research how my cells work, what different minerals, trace minerals, EFAs etc. that are needed for correct functioning and then to eat food that contain those elements.

I feel amazing, now, btw. I sleep soundly, don't have muscle pain or digestive problems, my knees and back dont hurt, I can see clearly and no one would guess how many health problems I have had. I was even told I might not be able to walk again after juvenile arthritis. Thank goodness alternative medicine works - and cleanses are one part that helps it be more effective.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 6:51:28 AM PST
L. Magee says:
I agreed with everything you said! I have been drinking no less than 3 qts. of water (filtered) daily, and watch what I put in my mouth. That saying that goes "you ARE what you eat" is so.....true!!!! Putting healthy good food in your body along with drinking plenty of water will make your body do all of the things that it was intended to do.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 11:52:30 AM PST
Invest in the Magic Bullet blender & juicer because it retains toxin neutralizing antioxidants and fiber. Add organic celery, carrot, tomato, sprouts, tomato juice, white pepper and turmeric; blend into a body cleansing shake and drink before breakfast. If you want to add protein, eat some chicken or walnuts along with the shake or add Tahini (soy and whey are relatively toxic). Have a second shake before dinner consisting of celery, cucumber, sprouts, and water. If you drink coffee, alternate with a fresh green tea.You should start to feel flushed-out within a few days. Many people report a refreshed feeling in their skin within a few days.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 23, 2007 7:51:43 PM PST
Joy Mukherji said:
1) It talks about how undigested food are big molecules which float in the blood stream and creates havoc. What is your view?

2) I have also noticed a profound change in my ability to communicate in english . It is hard to form a sentence . Our lifestyle has something to do with all these uncureable diseases(asthma,etc) , people are isolated , lack of exercise , stress , etc.

3) Do you think asthma,IBS and other conditions can be treated with naturopathy?

1) May be the term "undigested food" is a simplification for laypeople to grasp scientific facts. I agree with the part that claims that indigestion creates health havoc.
2) I could relate to the mental stress of expressing thoughts in foreign languages let alone in one's own language. I also strongly agree with the fact that modern lifestyle has plenty to do with modern diseases. Obesity, sedentary living, and inconsistent and inadequate physical activity are creating most of the mental and physical ailments.
3) Asthma has diverse causes that require a whole lot explanation in regard to each cause. Irritable bowel syndrome is a disease of exclusion. What causes the bowels to be irritable is as diverse as the habits and makeup of people. There is no one solution to all problems.

I guess the simplest answer to staying healthy is education about how to ingrain the diverse drives for sustaining health.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 11:12:33 AM PST
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hypoxic says:
"So what is it? What is it that comes out of your body when you do this cleanse?
What is in the pictures? Is it proof? It is plaque?

Dr. Triplett, a biochemist, even has a testimony on this website. Hmmmm. "

I hope he is a better biochemist than parasitologist! He found a intestinal worm with an antennae! Problem is, worms DO NOT have antennaes.

And hypoxic, since when do you trust the word of a scientist? Since you are so adversarial with conservalibertarian and myself!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 12:17:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 27, 2007 4:31:30 PM PST
Matthew says:
OK michael, you never even replied to my questions(until just now), and you still haven't answered the other two. The answer you just gave(on the other discussion when I asked you to do it here) agrees with the plaque's existence more than it disproves it. And by the way, I don't work in a hospital, so taking it to a pathology lab is kinda difficuilt for me to do. And as far as my sources...since you wont go and buy any of the books i've suggested then here's a small portion of one..............

Colon Plaque - Mucoid Plaque
by Dr. Richard Anderson, N.D., N.M.D

The phrase, "mucoid plaque," is a coined term that I use to describe various conditions found throughout the body, especially in hollow organs and the alimentary canal. It is a substance that the body naturally creates under unnatural conditions, such as attack from acids, drugs, heavy metals, and toxic chemicals. I have always attempted to make it clear that the "Mucoid Plaque" found in the bowel is not equivalent to the natural healthy gastric and intestinal mucosa. The natural mucosa serves as a necessary buffer for the gastrointestinal wall and as a lubricant for intestinal motility. "Mucoid plaque" of any description is unnatural and is found only after the body has moved towards diseased states. Medical science has many words to describe each of these conditions, but to my knowledge, there are no effective terms that describe them under one category.

Therefore, out of necessity, I constructed the term "mucoid plaque".Other authors have used other terms such as "Mucoid matter," "mucoid material," "mucoid,"1 and "Surface mucin." Generally, mucoid plaque is composed of mucin.2 However, there are many other substances that may be involved with mucin, such as lymph, fecal matter, and various types of proteins, etc. Mucoid is a general term for a mucin, mucoprotein, or glycoprotein, which usually composes the largest portion of what is found in the bowel. Choice of the word "plaque" is based on Webster's concept; a film consisting of mucus, etc. Mucins or glycoproteins are produced and secreted from salivary glands, the esophagus, stomach, small and large intestine, gall bladder and pancreatic ducts.3 Mucus glycoproteins (mucins) are produced and secreted from salivary glands, the esophagus, stomach, small and large intestines, as well as the gall bladder and pancreatic ducts.4

The medical terms that most adequately describe mucoid plaque are mucoviscidosis, intestinal mucin, and surface mucin. The medical definition of mucoviscidosis5 describes an advanced condition that, in my opinion, adequately supports my explanations of mucoid plaque.. Intestinal mucins are highly glycosylated molecules and consist of core protein (apomucin) joined to oligosaccharides. Six biochemically distinct mucin glycoproteins have been identified. Intestinal mucin is designed to protect the intestine under extreme conditions. However, abnormal build-ups of mucin have been identified with pathogenic bacteria and bowel disease.6(Some medical authors use the term "surface mucin" to describe this defense system of mucus secretion and bicarbonate intended to protect the bowel.)7 The main function of mucus is to serve as a protective barrier from acid and enzymes, as well as ingested potentially-toxic substances (e.g., alcohol, aspirin, other drugs, sodium chloride, etc.).8 Mucin is soluble in alkaline water, and is precipitated by acids.9 In other words, acids stimulate mucus secretion when the body is unable to adequately buffer those acids with electrolytes. I have been able to show that stress and eating acid-forming foods drains the body's electrolyte reserves. Therefore, stress and eating acid-forming foods may cause the body to lose its acid- buffering efficiency, which contributes towards the stimulation of unnatural mucus secretion.

As I said above, I have always attempted to make it clear that the "Mucoid Plaque" found in the bowel is not equivalent to the natural healthy gastric and intestinal mucosa. This natural, normal and healthy mucosa contains large volumes of alkaline buffering agents that protect the bowel wall from invasions of acids and toxins. As long as we maintain the proper electrolyte reserves and we haven?t taken anything to destroy this important protection, we then have the use of it. However, most Americans, and especially carnivorous and milk-drinking Americans, have lost this valuable pH. Not only that, but our ingestion of harmful poisons such as drugs, alcohol, sodium chloride, etc., deals consistently hard blows to our digestive protective mechanisms. However, many doctors are unaware that there are two kinds of mucus barriers in the gut. There is the normal intestinal mucosa, and the "pH-mucus barrier" that I call mucoid plaque, which overlies the normal mucosa. Figure 6.32 in West's book reveals that when the luminal pH is acidic, the pH adjacent to the epithelial cell membrane is near neutral due to epithelial bicarbonate production and the presence of the pH-mucus layer (mucoid plaque) that overlies the gastroduodenal mucosa.10

Although most medical doctors are unaware of the concept of mucoid plaque, there are numerous comments throughout medical literature that refer to it. For an example in the book "Human Colonic Bacteria", Edited by Glenn R. Gibson Ph.D. and George T. Macfarlane Ph.D., on page 184, the following statement was made which obviously referred to mucoid plaque: "Other bacteria such as E. Coli can also be found completely separated from luminal contents by a layer of mucin."

As I indicated above, acids stimulate mucin secretion. Drs. Gibson and Macfarlane support this fact in the following statement. "In areas of the intestine where the morphological impact of gastritis is at its most severe, there is an increased mucin content, synthesis, and secretion."11

One question many people ask about is just how thick can mucoid plaque accumulate? It has been shown that the thickness of mucus gel in the stomach varies from 50 to 500 (mole%)12, and in the colon from 16 to 150.13 It should be obvious that there are extremes here; up to ten times. This is very significant in terms of my theories of mucoid plaque.

Medical Terms Describing Mucoid Plaque
There are more than 45 different medical terms that describe varying aspects of the phenomenon I refer to as mucoid plaque. I have included the following list to show that "mucoid plaque," in one form or another, does exist.

Adaptive Hypertrophy - Thickening of the walls of a hollow organ, like the urinary bladder, where there is obstruction to outflow. Yes, mucoid plaque can be anywhere in the body.

Amyloid - Any of a group of chemically diverse proteins that appear microscopically homogeneous, but are composed of linear nonbranching aggregated fibrils arranged in sheets when seen under the electron microscope. Occurs characteristically as pathologic extracellular deposits.

Amyloidosis - A disease characterized by extracellular accumulation of amyloid in various organs and tissues of the body.

Cystic papillomatous craniopharyngioma - a form of craniopharyngioma characterized by large cysts within which are fungating, irregular outgrowths of stratified squamous epithelium.

Gastric metaplasia - See metaplasia. Gastric metaplasia is formed from acids.14

Giant Hypertrophy - Of gastric mucosa, as in Menetrier's disease.

Hyperplasia - An increase in number of cells in a tissue or organ, excluding tumor formation, whereby the bulk of the part or organ may be increased.

Hypertrophy; Hypertrophia - General increase in bulk of a part or organ, not due to tumor formation.

Intestinal Lymph; angiectasia - Intestinal lymphangiectasia - Swelling as a result of obstruction of lymphatic vessels or lymph nodes and the accumulation of large amounts of lymph in the affected regions.15 Loops of small intestine with prominent pale lymphatics apparent on serosa16 surface in a patient with Intestinal Lymphangiectasia. This disorder may be primary or secondary to blockages of the lymphatic drainage of the small bowel.

Intestinal Metaplasia - The transformation of mucosa, particularly in the stomach, into glandular mucosa resembling that of the intestines, although usually lacking villi.

Hyperplastic polyp - Of the large bowel, showing lengthening and cystic dilation of mucosal glandsJuvenile polyp - A smoothly-rounded mucosal hamartoma17 of the large bowel, which may be multiple and cause rectal bleeding

Malacoplakia - Most often found in the urinary bladder; however, it has also been described in other sites, such as intestines, brain, and skin. Gastrointestinal malacoplakia is most often found in the colon. It is usually polypoid. Endoscopically, three forms have been recognized: 1. Focal legion, 2. Ubiquitous mucosal legions, and 3. Large Mass. Associated with fermentative bacteria, particularly E. Coli.

Mucin - Intestinal mucins are highly glycosylated molecules and consist of core protein (apomucin) joined to oligosaccharides. Six biochemically distinct mucin glycoproteins have been identified. Intestinal mucin protects the intestine by three identified mechanisms. Abnormalities of mucin have been identified with pathogenic bacteria and bowel disease.18

Mucous polyp - An adenomatous polyp in which conspicuous amounts of mucin19 are formed.

Polypus 20 - A general descriptive term used with reference to any mass of tissue that bulges or projects outward or upward from the normal surface level.

Squamous Metaplasia - Epidermalization: the transformation of glandular or mucosal epithelium into stratified21 squamous22 epithelium.

Surface mucous or surface mucin - cells lining the gastric surface; a glycoprotein product at the apical end of each cell is secreted and forms a mucous protective film.

Villous Adenoma - Of the large intestine; usually a solitary, sessile,23 often large tumor of colonic mucosa composed of mucinous epithelium covering delicate vascular projections; hypersection and malignant change occur frequently.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 12:30:20 PM PST
Matthew says:

Medical Facts Supporting Mucoid Plaque Theory
It is a well-known medical fact that acids induce physiological responses.24 Textbook of Medical Physiology by Guyton,25 describes the various buffer systems to protect the body against acids. Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada and Clinical Gastroenterology by Spiro, describe the damages caused when bile becomes unnaturally acid. It has been shown by these authors that cancer of the bowel is often associated with bile acids. Mucin and mucus are natural protective liquids that are excreted by the mucous cells, globlet cells and crypts of Lieberkuhn throughout the stomach and intestines to help protect the delicate mucosal membranes from acids and toxins. Guyton explains that: "Even the slightest irritation of the mucosa directly stimulates the mucous cells to secrete copious quantities of this thick, viscid mucus. This in turn forms a gastric barrier that prevents the digestion of the gastric wall and also greatly reduces the absorption of substances by the gastric mucosa."26

Another well known fact is that 90% of the ulcers that develop in the human body are found in the duodenum. This occurs primarily in an area of the duodenum where the Brunner's glands are located. Normally, the Brunner's glands secrete large amounts of mucus, which naturally protects the body from the acids. Ulcers develop only after the body has lost its ability to create alkaline mucus. My point is that acids can severely damage the gastrointestinal tract, and the normal method of defense is to create mucus.

As indicated above, various bowel diseases occur after the bile has become too acid. Bile is created by the liver and flows to the gall bladder. All the bile that flows from the liver to the gall bladder has a pH from 7.6 - 8.6.27 But after the bile leaves the gall bladder, it can become very acid, even as low as 4.5.28 Many people, in fact, most people, are rapidly moving towards disease states and one of the steps towards disease occurs when they have lost the ability to maintain alkaline bile, and acid bile develops. Under these conditions, the body is forced to secrete abnormal amounts of mucus to protect itself from the acid. This mucus is composed of glycoprotein.29

Even though I have shown through medical textbooks that mucoid plaque is a normal by-product of unnatural acid stimulation, it would mean very little if we could not demonstrate its existence by removing it from the bowels. We can show from hundreds of testimonies that the elimination of that which we call mucoid plaque is common among those who have used our cleansing program.

At least 90% of the people who use our program have improved their health, increased their energy, and eliminated a large spectrum of disease conditions. This would seem to indicate that the elimination of the substance called mucoid plaque, and the general cleansing that takes place with our cleansing program, removes a debilitating level of toxicity closely associated with loss of vitality and chronic disease. Countless written testimonies and verbal statements of people who have done the cleanse reveal strong evidence of the value and validity of this program.

Medical scientists have clearly stated that they do not have all the answers. There is a great deal of guessing, and concepts and facts are in a constant state of change. Most medical scientists avoid the word normal, because the word "normal" implies that they know what is normal and what is not. The truth is they really do not know.30 I have developed a system of cleansing the bowel that has assisted thousands of people in achieving better health. For many years, I have attempted to find out what the anatomical, physiological and chemical reasons for our success are. I believe that I have been able to successfully fill certain gaps in the field of Gastroenterology. Although some of my concepts appear to be new and challenging to the average medical doctor, most of them are not new and make a great deal of sense. I will now show how medical science supports our theories, even though they have yet to realize it Indeed, most of my research has been involved with the highest and most up-to-date medical research available.

The aforementioned doctors have indicated that a toxic bowel and/or mucoid plaque can be a precursor for bowel disease. I have pointed out that mucin is associated with mucoid plaque and disease. It has been shown that most adenocarcinomas secrete a small or moderate amount of mucin. 10 to 20% of tumors may be described as mucinous or colloid carcinomas on the basis of a more prodigious production of mucin. It has also been shown that these mucinous tumors of the bowel are associated with a poorer survival rate than nonmucinous tumors.31

With colon cancer, it has been shown that the colonic epithelium immediately adjacent to a colon cancer is thicker than normal. There is consideration that mucins affecting the mucosa was a field of premalignant tissue from which tumors arise. It is an agreed upon medical concept that mucinogenic mucosa can be a transitional state that may develop into a more diseased condition in response to adjacent tumor or other pathologic condition.32

I previously stated that bile acids can stimulate mucosal and cell proliferation and that the main reason that bile becomes too acid is related to dietary ingestion of acid-forming foods. Yamada has supported these concepts clearly, especially in relation to fats.33

With Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), mucus discharge upon defecation has been reported in approximately 50% of IBS patients. This supports my point that bowel irritation causes mucus to be secreted into the bowel as normal activity under stressful conditions. It is not uncommon for mucus to accumulate in any area of the body, such as the gall bladder, arteries, urinary bladder, bronchials, etc.

Constipation is associated with bowel problems. It is also associated with a poor diet34 - the same acid-forming diet that creates the conditions that force the bowel to defend itself against acids and toxins, by creating the protective mucus. Constipation is common in the majority of IBS patients.35

Between page 616 and 617 of Clinical Gastroenterology, there are several color photos revealing mucoid plaque. (See plates: 22 - 29, 31, 35, 37 - 40, 46 - 48, 62 - 66, 68 - 70, etc.) The normal colon is composed of a series of folds, saccules or pouches called haustra. In a healthy colon, they would be quite visible, and blood vessels should also be easily visible. Between pages 557 and 561 of Inflammatory Bowel Disease, there are several endoscopy plates showing the inside of the colon. Note that there are no blood vessels visible and the haustra saccules are barely visible and sometimes not visible at all. This indicates exceptionally thick mucoid plaque. Plate 26.7 and 26.15 indicates the blood vessels and haustra. The other remaining pictures reveal various forms of mucoid plaque.36

Still most modern medical doctors are not familiar with the concept that mucoid plaque, as in mucin, is a potential health threat. It is a subject that most doctors have never thought of, and when it is described to them, they are usually confused. However, some gastroenterologists are aware of this condition. Abnormalities in colonic mucin glycoprotein are considered a potential subclinical marker for ulcerative colitis and possible other bowel diseases.37

I have also stated that bacteria and parasites are protected by the mucoid plaque. Drs.Gibson and Macfarlane verified that this is true. They gave an example that E. Coli can be found completely separated from luminal contents by a layer of mucin (mucoid plaque).38

Doctors of Great Success Treated the Bowel. Doctor Bernard Jensen, DC, ND, Ph.D., made the following statement: "In the 50 years I've spent helping people to overcome illness, disability and disease, it has become crystal clear that poor bowel management lies at the root of most people's health problems.39 Dr. Bernard Jensen studied with many very successful doctors throughout the United States and Europe. He then built his own sanitarium and practiced with an open mind for over 50 years. His fame has traveled all over the world. He was even nominated for the Nobel Prize.

On page 23 of his book, Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management, he describes mucoid plaque. "The heavy mucus coating in the colon thickens and becomes a host of putrefaction. The blood capillaries to the colon begin to pick up the toxins, poisons and noxious debris as it seeps through the bowel wall. All tissues and organs of the body are now taking on toxic substances. Here is the beginning of true autointoxication on a physiological level." On page 27, he reveals his experience in this matter. " One autopsy revealed a colon to be 9 inches in diameter with a passage through it no larger than a pencil. The rest was caked up layer upon layer of encrusted fecal material. This accumulation can have the consistency of truck tire rubber. It?s that hard and black. Another autopsy revealed a stagnant colon to weigh in at an incredible 40 pounds. Imagine carrying around all that morbid accumulated waste." On page 42, Dr. Jensen talks about his old teacher Dr. John Harvey Kellogg at the Battle Creek Sanitarium, who "maintained that 90% of the diseases of civilization are due to improper functioning of the colon." On page 43, Dr. Jensen explains that National College in Chicago performed over 300 autopsies. "According to the history of these persons, 285 had claimed they were not constipated and had normal movements and only 15 had admitted they were constipated. The autopsies showed the opposite to be the case, however, and only 15 were found not to have been constipated, while 285 were found to have been constipated. Some of the histories of these 285 persons stated they had had as many as 5 or 6 bowel movements daily, yet autopsies revealed that in some of them the bowel was 12 inches in diameter. The bowel walls were encrusted with material (in one case peanuts which had been lodged there for a very long time)." On page 62, Dr. Jensen explains: "As we work with eliminating the encrusted mucus lining, we must also consider nourishing the new cells below it." On page 67 Dr. Jensen suggests: "Bowel cleansing is an essential element in any lasting healing program. The toxic waste must be removed as quickly as possible to halt the downward spiral of failing health. This is best done by 1. Removing accumulated fecal material from the bowel; 2....

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 12:32:41 PM PST
Matthew says:
still continued........

After listening to several of Dr. Jensen's patients who used his program, and after seeing what bowel cleansing did for me and the thousands of people who did my program, I learned that Dr. Jensen knew what he was talking about.

Doctors who have achieved fame for their exceptional cure rates always took care of the alimentary canal. Dr. William Koch, Dr. Eugene Blass, Dr. John Kellogg of the Battle Creek Sanitarium, Sir Arbuthnot Lane (surgeon for the King of England), Dr. Bernard Jensen, and Dr. J.H. Tilden are some of the exceptional individuals who used this knowledge.

In the early 1900's, Dr. J.H. Tilden of Denver, Colorado, specialized in healing pneumonia, which was at that time the number one killer. During that time almost every doctor lost hundreds of his patients to that deadly plague. Dr. Tilden had more pneumonia cases than any other doctor and he never lost a patient. He used no drugs at all. He simply cleaned out the colon (using enemas and colonics), used water therapy, and administered natural, live foods.40 Even in those days, his success was considered miraculous because other doctors were relying on drugs and continually meeting with failure.

Sir Arbuthnot Lane MS, FRCS, surgeon for the King of England, made the following statement: "There is but one disease and that is deficient drainage."41 Dr. Lane spent many years specializing in bowel problems. He was an expert in removing sections of the bowel and stitching it back together. He taught this work to other doctors and gained an international reputation for his efficiency. During the years of this work, he began to notice a peculiar phenomenon. During the course of recovery from colonic surgery, some of his patients experienced remarkable cures of diseases that had no apparent connection with his surgery. For instance, a young boy who had had arthritis for many years was in a wheelchair at the time of surgery. Six months later, this boy had recovered entirely from arthritis. Another case involved a woman with a goiter. When a specific section of the bowel was removed in surgery, there ensued a definite remission of the goiter within six months. These and similar experiences impressed him deeply, as he saw the relationship between the toxic bowel and the functioning of various organs in the body. After much thought about this relationship, he became very interested in changing the bowel through dietetic methods and spent the last 25 years of his life teaching people how to care for the bowel through cleansing and nutrition, and not surgery. Sir Lane said, "All maladies are due to the lack of certain food principles, such as mineral salts or vitamins, or to the absence of the normal defenses of the body, such as the natural protective flora.42 When this occurs, toxic bacteria invade the lower alimentary canal. The poisons thus generated pollute the bloodstream , causing every tissue, gland, and organ of the body to gradually deteriorate and be destroyed.43 Lane made the statement that arthritis could not develop in the absence of intestinal toxemia, that there is clinical and x-ray evidence of stasis 44 in such patients, and that the symptoms disappear and patients recover sometimes with startling rapidity when the condition of stasis has been effectively dealt with. Sir Lane reports a connection between intestinal toxemia and "several changes in the thyroid" such as "adenomatous growths." He also made this statement to the staff of John Hopkins Hospital and Medical College, "Gentlemen, I will never die of cancer. I am taking measures to prevent it. It is caused by poisons created in our bodies by the food we eat....

Dr. Harvey Kellogg, M.D. of the Kellogg Sanitarium said, "Of the 22,000 operations that I have personally performed, I have never found a single normal colon, and of the 100,000 that were performed under my jurisdiction, not over 6% were normal."45 Dr. Kellogg said that he knew of many cases in which operations were prevented by cleansing and revitalizing the bowel. He maintained that 90% of the diseases of civilization are due to improper functioning of the colon.

Dr. George C. Crile, head of the Crile Clinic in Cleveland and one of the world?s greatest surgeons, said: "There is no natural death. All deaths that come from so-called natural causes are merely the end point of progressive acid saturation. Many people go so far as to consider that sickness and disease are just a 'cross' or an element that God gave them to bear here on this earth. However, if they would take care of their body and cleanse their colon and intestines, their problems would be pretty much eliminated, and they could eliminate their 'cross' by proper diet, proper exercise, and, in general, proper living."46

Many doctors had proven that the bowel was the key to health or disease and the most important part of our physical anatomy to take care of in order to achieve successful healing. The following cases were obtained from medical journals

Dr. H. J. Bartle found in a study of 50 cases of intestinal toxemia that 72% of those cases had constipation.

Dr. Satterlee found 84% of his patients had constipation when they had intestinal toxemia. This indicates that serious bowel disease is associated with having constipation

Dr. William Lintz, M.D., successfully treated 472 patients suffering from allergies by cleansing the bowel.

Dr. Allan Eustis, M.D., Professor at Tulane University of Medicine in 1912, cured 121 cases of bronchial asthma by intestinal cleansing

Dr. D. Rochester, M.D., University of Buffalo School of Medicine in 1906, made the statement that after 23 years of observation, toxemia of gastrointestinal tract origin is the underlying cause of asthma

Dr. Bassler reported that by reducing intestinal toxemia, he had 100% success eliminating cardiac arrhythmia.

Dr. Bainbridge, M.D., stated that intestinal toxemia is common among the causative factors of so-called functional heart disease

Dr. D.J. Barry stated, "There seems little doubt that substances having a deleterious action on the heart musculature and nerves are formed both in the small and large intestine, even under apparently normal circumstances.

Dr. Hovel stated that "toxemia due to intestinal sepsis is a common cause of increased blood pressure."

Dr. J.A. Stucky, M.D.: "In several hundreds of cases of diseases of the nasal accessory sinuses, middle and internal ear... I have found unmistakable and marked evidence of toxemia of intestinal origin as evidenced by excessive indican in the urine, and when the condition causing this was removed there was marked amelioration or entire relief of the disease.

Dr. C. W. Hawley, M.D., treated many cases of eye strain and disease with success once again by relieving intestinal toxemia.

Dr. Herter, M.D., in 1892, linked intestinal putrefaction to epilepsy in 31 patients. I had one doctor take the Cleanse who had epilepsy. During her cleanse she had her last seizure. Five years later she reported that she has had no more seizures and no other signs of epilepsy. Doctors should really consider the importance of this. What is really happening when we do the Cleanse? It is doing things that are really rather incredible, of which I only know a small portion.

Drs. Satterlee and Eldridge reported experience with 518 cases of "mental symptoms" including "mental sluggishness, dullness, and stupidity; loss of concentration and/or memory; mental incoordination, irritability, lack of confidence, excessive and useless worry, exaggerated introspection...Their success in eliminating these symptoms by surgically relieving intestinal toxemia is truly remarkable in the light of today's commonly-held beliefs.

Dr. J.F. Burgess, Montreal General Hospital, reports the results of studying 109 cases of eczema. He states, "On the basis of clinical observations and sensitivity tests against various amino acids and ptomaine bases, eczema is probably caused by intestinal toxemia.

It is my own opinion that all cancer, AIDS, liver disorders, kidney, brain, and heart disorders receive their toxic malformations from the intestines. Sir W.A. Lane tried to make it clear when he wrote that he was "exceedingly impressed by the sequence of cancer and intestinal stasis." We know that changes in the breast, caused by intestinal pollution, have been described by many doctors.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 12:33:47 PM PST
Matthew says:
and still continued.........

Another author, Dr. Robert Gray, has described the mucoid plaque in a manner similar to Dr. Jensen and myself. "Another type of constipation is present when old, hardened feces stick to the walls of the colon and do not pass out with the regular bowel movements....And few people have any inkling as to how much old, hardened feces are chronically present with their bodies.....As moisture is absorbed from a slimy medium in the colon, the medium becomes sticky. As the medium is further dehydrated, it becomes gluey and glues a coating of itself to the walls of the colon as it passes through. As layer after layer of gluey feces piles up in the colon, they often form into a tough, rubbery black substance. Old feces may build up in pockets and they may coat the entire length of the colon and small intestines as well. They do not pass from the body with ordinary bowel movements but require special techniques to dissolve the glue that binds them in the body. Because nonmucoid material moves through the body quicker than mucoid material, the bowel tends to move two to three times per day when the intestines and colon are in non mucoid condition...."48 He also discusses parasites. "They lodge themselves in the old matter that encrusts the walls of the intestinal tract. Without the presence of stagnant material in which to embed themselves, intestinal parasites cannot maintain a foothold in the body. Remove this old, filthy, decaying mucoid matter and you will flush the parasites out as well."49 He explains malabsorption in relation to mucoid plaque. "The accumulation of mucoid material along the walls of the small intestine can interfere with nutrient absorption even though nutritional intake may be adequate."50

Dr. Jensen and Dr. Gray had different ideas as to how the "mucoid plaque" is formed. Both of these authors felt that it was the mucus-forming foods and highly processed foods that contributed towards the formation of mucoid plaque. I agree that they may contribute towards its composition, however, my studies indicated that excess intake of acid-forming foods forces mucin to develop because it produces levels of acid the body cannot buffer due to electrolyte deficiency.

Dr. V.E. Irons, a pioneer in colon cleansing theory and activity, and a staunch advocate against modern medicine wrote a booklet called: "The Destruction OF YOUR OWN NATURAL PROTECTIVE MECHANISM". In this booklet he made the following statements: "I challenge the world that you couldn't find in the USA, 1000 people who don't have a clogged colon. Just let me get them on the Colema Board and on the 7 Day Cleansing Program both at the same time and we will show any challengers WHAT WE MEAN. We will let them see, feel and even hold in their hands exactly what has been thickening, hardening, and decaying in their colon for years, causing all types of dis-ease. The condition of the colons in this entire country are FAR WORSE than either the doctors, the AMA, the Drug houses,.....or even the Natural Health industry have any conception.....and believe in our theory that the CAUSE OF MOST CONDITIONS OF ILL HEALTH IS AUTOINTOXICA-TION and that 95% of their troubles start in the colon. We can prove that we can find hardened mucous with its foul smelling curd in the colons of 95% of the entire nation. HOW DO WE KNOW THIS? Because possibly 99% of all ages and sexes have violated two of the major Natural Laws from one to three times every day since they were 2 years old.

What are the two laws?

1. The WRONG combination of foods.
2. The constant daily use of tremendous amounts of DEAD FOODS.

The wrong application of both of these laws has caused the body's natural protective mechanism to secrete mucous into the colon to protect the body from absorbing the many poisons that those counterfeit foods create. But we have simply OVERWORKED Nature?s protective mechanism to the point that the mechanism instead of protecting us from poisons now itself poisons us..... This protective mechanism was never designed to continue secreting mucous one layer on top of another layer for years with no time out or chance for its elimination. The result is that layer on top of layer is secreted until its accumulation thickens to 1/8" to 1/4" thick. Sometimes this layer or layers gets to 3/8" to 1/2" in thickness, becoming as hard and black as a piece of old hardened rubber you see on a highway from a truck tire. It cannot be cut with a knife but you can cut it with a razor blade. Usually it breaks into innumerable small pieces. But we have had specimens saved in alcohol from several inches to a few feet in length while the longest we have had was 27 ft. (In one piece). Sometimes it will come out as a pile weighing as much as 11 lbs... and continue to come out for several days to a week.....before the old hardened accumulated mucous, so tightly imbedded in the colon for months or years, comes out. It has probably been slowly emitting poisons into your blood stream, causing all types of distorted symptoms. Once this hardened mucous starts to eliminate, it will be trapped in the colander so that you can wash it and examine it. Anyone who disagrees with any of the above - REMEMBER, you CAN PROVE it to your own satisfaction by what comes from your own body for the smallest conceivable investment. There is no substitute for experience, and we challenge everyone to experience this for themselves.....You (meaning the reader and 95% of the USA) DO HAVE THIS HARDENED MUCOUS IN YOUR COLON AND YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT WHAT COMES OUT OF YOU." My experience has undoubtedly verified Dr. Iron's descriptive explanations.

Francisco Izundergui MacDonnell, MD, Ph.D., ND, PP. Gen. Adm., sent the following letter. Here is his testimony. "Dear Sirs: ... Many times when practicing autopsies on people who died from chronic illnesses, I have always found a thick layer of organized mucus-like hardened material all over from the tongue down to the stomach, small, large and recto-sigmoid colon. Usually it is more common among milk drinkers and meat eaters. If for some reason your products has the ability to detach this layer of morbus material, then a great deal of accomplishment will be achieved for these persons. This layer is composed of coagulated and racemized glyco-proteins, which really impair the GI tract function and also constitute a reservoir of bacteria and viruses that invade the lymphatic and blood stream causing a wearing down of the bodily defenses and a lot of burden on the liver detoxification function. For that reason, Gerson, Kelly and Beard enfancied always on GI tract cleansing to obtain better results with their cancer treatments. In the past we have even removed the entire colon to obtain an effective relief from auto-intoxication specially with colon polyposis and diverticulosis and chronic ulcerative colitis....."51

Unfortunately, there has been little interest on this subject by the medical profession, and theories vary from one end of the spectrum to the other. Medical science seems to be in denial of the experiences of tens of thousands people. Medical science basically avoids admitting the mucoid theory, and yet many thousands of people who first sought help from medical science ended up finding help from the natural procedures that modern medicine resists and denies. As modern medicine denied that Candidiasis was a cause to many illnesses for several decades after the alternative practitioners announced the problem, so does modern medicine deny the bowel problems in association with many diseases.

1 "The Colon Health Handbook," by Dr. Robert Gray, page 29, defines "Mucoid matter, mucoid material, and mucoid as any slimy, sticky, or glue-like substance originating in the body for the purpose of holding substances to be eliminated in suspension."

2 Mucin is a secretion containing carbohydrate-rich glycoproteins such as that from the goblet cells of the intestine, the submaxillary glands, and other mucous glandular cells; it is also present in the ground substance of connective tissue, especially mucous connective tissue, is soluble in alkaline water, and is precipitated by acid.

3 Human Colonic Bacteria, Role in Nutrition, Physiology, and Pathology, edited by Glenn Gibson and George Macfarlane, CRC Press, 1995, page 175.

4 Inflammatory Bowel Disease, 4th edition, by Kirner and Shorter, page 175.

5 Mucoviscidosis or cystic fibrosis: A congenital metabolic disorder, inherited as an autosomal trait, in which secretions of exocrine glands are abnormal; excessively viscid mucus causes obstruction of passageways (including pancreatic and bile ducts, intestines, and bronchi).

6 Inflammatory Bowel Disease, 4th edition, by Kirner and Shorter, page 143.

7 Clinical Gastroenterology, 4th edition, by Howard M. Spiro, page 255.

8 Physiological Basis of Medical Practice, 12th Edition, John B. West, MD, Ph.D., D.Sc., Editor, Williams & Wilkins, page, 653.

9 Stedman's Medical Dictionary

10 Physiological Basis of Medical Practice, 12th Edition, John B. West, MD, Ph.D., D.Sc., Editor, Williams & Wilkins, page, 653.

11 Human Colonic Bacteria, Role in Nutrition, Physiology, and Pathology, Glenn Gibson and George Macfarlane, ed., CRC Press, 1995, page 184.12 Mole, in the Si system, is the unit of amount of substance, defined as that amount of a substance containing as many "elementary entities" as there are atoms in 0.0120 kg of carbon-

12; "elementary entities" may be atoms, molecules, ions, or any describable entity or defined mixture of entities and must be specified when this term is used; in practical terms, the mole is 6.0221367 ? 1023 "elementary entities."

13 Human Colonic Bacteria, Role in Nutrition, Physiology, and Pathology, Glenn Gibson and George Macfarlane, ed., CRC Press, 1995, page 178.

14 Clinical Gastroenterology, 4th edition, by Howard M. Spiro, page 254.

15 See photograph on page 295 of Color Atlas of the Digestive Tract, R.E. Pounder, M.C. Allison, A.P. Dhillon, Yearbook Medical Publisher Inc.

16 Serosa: The outer layer of the intestinal wall.

17 Hamartoma: A focal malformation that resembles a neoplasm, grossly and even microscopically, but results from faulty development in an organ; composed of an abnormal mixture of tissue elements, or an abnormal proportion of a single element.

18 Inflammatory Bowel Disease, 4th edition, by Kirsner and Shorter, page 143.

19 Mucin: Usually, but not always, mucoid plaque substance which is originally chemically produced.

20 There are at least 33 different varieties of polyps.

21 Stratified: Arranged in layers.

22 Squamous: Relating to or covered with scales, like layers.

23 Sessile: Firmly or permanently attached; fixed; sedentary.

24 Clinical Gastroenterology, 4th edition, by Howard M. Spiro, page 254.

25 Textbook of Medical Physiology by Guyton, 7th edition. Pages 438 - 450.

26 Textbook of Medical Physiology by Guyton, 7th edition. Page 776.

27 Principles of Anatomy and Physiology, 7th edition by Tortora, Grabowski, page 792.

28 Correlative Urinalysis, by Mortor, page 68.

29 Glycoprotein. One of a group of protein-carbohydrate compounds (conjugated proteins), among which the most important are the mucins, mucoid, and amyloid.

30 Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada, page 532.

31 Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada, page 1786.

32 Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada, pages 1786 - 1787.

33 Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada, pages 1774 - 1776.

34 Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management, by Bernard Jensen, page 28.

35 Textbook of Gastroenterology by Yamada, pages 1698 - 1699.

36 Inflammatory Bowel Disease, 4th edition, by Kirsner and Shorter.

37 Inflammatory Bowel Disease, 4th edition, by Kirsner and Shorter, page 316.

38 Human Colonic Bacteria, Role in Nutrition, Physiology, and Pathology, edited by Glenn Gibson and George Macfarlane, CRC Press, 1995, page 184.

39 Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management, by Bernard Jensen, page 3.

40 If Dr. Tilden practiced today as he did in the 1900?s, he would probably lose his license.

41 "Your Colon - Its Character, CARE & THERAPY," by Stand Malstrom, ND, MT., page 1.

42 "Your Colon - Its Character, CARE & THERAPY," by Stand Malstrom, ND, MT., page 1.

43 Iridology, The Science and Practice in the Healing Arts, Volume II, by Dr. Bernard Jensen, DC, ND, Ph.D., page 408.

44 Stasis: Stagnation, constipation, autointoxication of intestines.

45 Iridology, The Science and Practice in the Healing Arts, Volume II, by Dr. Bernard Jensen, DC, ND, Ph.D., page 408.

46 "Your Colon - Its Character, Care and Therapy," by Stand Malstrom, ND, MT., page 1.

47 Cardiac arrhythmias: Loss of normal rhythm of heartbeat.

48 "The Colon Health Handbook," by Dr. Robert Gray, pages 5 - 6.

49 "The Colon Health Handbook," by Dr. Robert Gray, page 8.

50 "The Colon Health Handbook," by Dr. Robert Gray, page 13.

51 This doctor was from Laboratorios Farmacobiologicos "IZUMAC", in Villahermosa, Tabosco, Mexico.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 12:35:18 PM PST
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Matthew says:
have a feast michael and conservalibertarian, lemme know when you can disprove all of that

as far as this string goes, I'm done with it, because for me it's no debate

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 6:43:33 PM PST
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happytobeme says:
Micheal so that is your answer? That is soooooo lame. You cant answer it can you?

Thank you for your post. I personally know this stuff is real. I saw it with my own eyes. I am gluten intolerant and suffice it to say my intestinal system has been constantly assulted by my wheat allergies for my entire life. Common sense will tell you that the body reacts to protect itself from these insults. Unfortunately the result is a protective layer of mcous that prevents nutrients from being absobed. As a Registered Respiratory Therapist I am aware of how the body reacts to insults (chemicals, allergens etc.) that is the mechanism of tisssue damage for emphysema, chronic bronchities and asthma. Excess mucous, inflamation, scaring so on. It happens in the lungs, intestines all over the body.

Anyone that is symptomatic should explore the cause. It was a physician M.D. that practices "alternative" medicine that finally convinced me to eliminated wheat from my diet. Unfortunately I was 35 years old at the time and the damage had already been done. He also reccomended Dr. Naturas colonix to remove the mucoid plaque. This physician didnt order and expensive colonoscopy or lab test. When the symptoms, herpetiform blisters, migrane headaches, severe allergies, gastrointestinal pain, bloating, constipation, darrehea, yeast infections, bladder infections, severe acne, joint pain, legs aches finnally dissapeared that was prove enough for him and myself. This physician moved away. I was saddend by the loss. I did learn something very important from him. You are responsible for your own health. I wish there were more physicians like him in my area.

Most of the people using cleansing products are looking for the cause. Taking prescription drugs just masks the symptoms they dont cure anything. Drugs are not a cure when you have to continue to use it for the rest of your life. The FDA says that only a drug can cure disease. Interesting isnt it? Masking/alleviating the symptoms means that the damage continues to progress until disease takes over. I was on my way there.

If my story sounds like your story check out You may find the answer you are looking for.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 10:25:47 PM PST
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Matthew says:
Was that you Michael who thought the huge research article on "mucoid plaque" written by a Naturopathic Doctor didn't add to the discussion? I'd be shocked if it was being how you seemed so much to want some solid scientific evidence and were so tired of "teaching these idiots general chemistry".

Are you just trying to vote it off the discussion? Go ahead and try. I'll post it again if you do. Thats how important I feel this information is. Did you even bother to read it? Are you surprised this guy has done his research or is this not enough scientific evidence for you? Are you starting to sway in the direction that some of these "quacks" could possibly be on to something, or does this not "refute the fact that these ideas are based on nonsense"?

If you don't think it does then your giant ego is getting in the way and you need to get over it and admit there's a possibility that "mucoid plaque" might actually exist, and this cleanse might actually help you get rid of it. Also you should look into some of the material I recommended. There's plenty of people out there who can tear you a new one on this subject, and they've done more research than you can imagine.

P.S. - if you folks would like that information to stay on this discussion then vote that it adds to the discussion. If the majority of you want it removed from the discussion let me know and I'll delete it.

Also, if you would like more information from the same author, then go to

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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 27, 2007 11:52:30 PM PST
gailceeh says:
Exercise! Lots of fluid. Hot bath with Epsom salt.... and definitely sweat sweat sweat is good! Also, try vibrating your whole body (dancing) or shaking your whole body to flush out stagnant energy.. try it..i guarantee, you'll feel much better afterwards :) good luck!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 3:56:55 AM PST
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"This concept is promoted used by some advocates of "detoxification" and "intestinal cleasning." I have seen several thousand intestinal biopsies and have never seen any "mucoid plaque." This is a complete fabrication with no anatomic basis. The small and large intestines normally secrete mucus for lubrication, but it does not form into any type of "plaque.""

Dr. Uthman, a practicing pathologist, is Adjunct Assistant Professor of Pathology at the University of Texas School of Medicine

Sorry, I could not be as verbose as you. But this statement by a practicing pathologist is enough to cast serious doubt on the contestations of the colon quacks. But don't feel bad, lots of people have been fooled by them for the last 100 years.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 4:02:33 AM PST
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It is "lame" to find a glaring error in his testimonial and therefore question its validity?
See? You REALLY do not understand how science works. You are the one who posted the link to his testimonial.

Worms do not have antennae. Yet this guy claims he found one in his feces. If I told you that I found a goldfish with a laranyx....would you believe that?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 3:14:36 PM PST
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Matthew says:
I don't think you even read the full post because if you had you would have seen that "most modern medical doctors are not familiar with the concept that mucoid plaque, as in mucin, is a potential health threat. It is a subject that most doctors have never thought of, and when it is described to them, they are usually confused. However, some gastroenterologists are aware of this condition. Abnormalities in colonic mucin glycoprotein are considered a potential subclinical marker for ulcerative colitis and possible other bowel diseases.37" but I guess you figure your one doctor's statement overrules the "verbose" 50+ statements I have found.

You asked for the scientific data and I gave it to you. You wouldn't even acknowledge the books I suggested so I put it right in front of your face. Now you go searching and you find one doctor who says it's "quackery" and give him more credit than the many I have given you, some of whom are highly respected. Not to mention you still ignore the other two questions I asked long ago. You just seem to go searching for somebody who disagrees with whatever particular statement you're trying to discredit, never giving any thought to the validity of the idea in the first place.

It is now my opinion that you are simply set in your ways and cannot be told much of anything new. Like they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, or you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

And don't worry, I don't feel bad. On the contrary I feel great. I feel healthy and happy, especially after doing a good cleanse. I just feel bad for you and especially the people you convince that cleansing is quackery, because you choose not to experience the benefit from any of the cleanses that could do your body so much good. But I'm not worried, because eventually it will be widely known that cleansing and nutrition are the real cures for disease. In time the people supporting the old notions will die off by their own hands and the way they treat their bodies while the people who take care of themselves will still be healthy and live long past 100. We'll be surfing in Hawaii and playing tennis while you're pushing daisies. If you have the conviction to take care of yourself and live long enough you will see that in this case, the truth will bear witness of itself.

And unfortunately it's you who has been fooled by the mainstream doctors and media into thinking the medical industry really has your ultimate well being at heart. Keep eating dead food, keep combining your food improperly, and when you get cancer, go to the hospital so they can slowly kill you a little faster with chemotherapy, all while lining their pocketbooks. Don't do any intestinal cleansing. And surely, don't go and try to find any information supporting the fact that maybe you shouldn't listen to everything your doctor has to say. Just sit in front of your computer screen gloating in your biochemical expertise, trying to steer people away from finding greater health and happiness through cleansing.

But I can say, like Sir Arbuthnot Lane MS, FRCS, surgeon for the King of England,(who spent the last 25 years of his life teaching people how to care for the bowel through cleansing and nutrition, and not surgery) when he stated to the staff of John Hopkins Hospital and Medical College, "Gentlemen, I will never die of cancer. I am taking measures to prevent it. It is caused by poisons created in our bodies by the food we eat...."(you really should at least read the part of the article about him)

I'm really over this discussion now. I've got better things to do than beat my head against a brick wall. Maybe you'll wise up someday. Maybe it'll be the day you're wondering why you have cancer or some other degenerative dis-ease. Maybe it'll be after the chemotherapy just makes you sicker. Maybe it won't ever be at all. You can call them quacks as much as you want, I don't care anymore, I'm over it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 28, 2007 7:36:29 PM PST
You say you question the rationale of those who believe in body cleansing, I question the rationale of those who don't believe. All the great prophets fasted to purify themselves to be worthy of God. if its good enough for them, it's good enough for me. Have you ever heard of the addage, cleanliness is next to Goddliness.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 4:32:37 AM PST

You have the wrong idea. I DO read these things and I have read them for years.
I have read them calmly, soberly and with an open mind. However, the history of colon cleansing is not really a positive one. People have been espousing the benefits of colon cleansing for hundreds of years. Kellogg, Graham and even Yul Gibbons believed. Problem is, when someone attributes too much importance on one bodily function, they lose credibility.

Remember a few years ago when Coral Calium was the panacea for "over 200 diseases"? Including "curing" colon cancer? According to them, my colon could be dirty as hell as long as I took Coral Calcium!

There is not a single agency (government or otherwise) that does not acknowledge the importance of fiber for both colon and overall health. The AMA and FDA readily acknowledge that daily fiber intake can reduce the risk of colon cancer, aid in weight loss and even lower cholesterol. So here is a substance that is holistic, natural and available in both food and supplements that everyone acknowledges is beneficial...yet people still cling to these conspiracy theories that the government suppresses natural cures.

Given your biography, I know that you are new to this. After years of smoking and substance abuse, you have had a health awakening and feel good and want to share...kinda like a religeous conversion. However, don't let your excitement cloud judgement. Learn more science, read diverse opinion and explore what has stood the test of time.

When you posted that quote about Lane saying all cancer is caused by toxins in the body...did you realize you were posting nonsense? Cancer is caused by genetic damage. MANY things cause cancer; radiation, mutagenic compounds and even viruses. It can even happen spontaneously if a cell makes a mistake copying its DNA. Fact is, even an quote from a powerful source can be seen as nonsense if it does not pass muster of basic science.

I am a educated 43 year old that eats healthy foods, exercises regularly and almost never gets sick. You, on the other hand, are a
26 alcoholic who has recently given up smoking (and according to you took a considerable bet to accomplish!)

Lets just say the jury is still out on who will live longer. BTW It takes 10 years after quitting for your lungs to fully recover.

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Matthew says:
Like I said Michael, I'm done with this discussion because to me there's no debate. I've done plenty of research also. The difference is I actually looked up the things that you suggested while you completely disregarded what I suggested you look into.

And then you take what I quote out of context and put words in their mouths. He didn't say "all" cancer. He said "cancer". He wasn't referring to cancer caused by radiation, he was referring to cancer caused by a poor diet and a toxic body which is probably the cause of 99% of degenerative disease. The people who were listening to him were smart enough to know that, but apparently you just like to point out fault in in every little technical interpretation you can and ignore the rest. Good for you. I'm not going to debate this nonsense with you anymore, especially when you ignore so much of what I say.

How often do the FDA and the AMA tell you to combine your foods properly and to not eat cooked food? It's scientific fact that cooking your food kills the enzymes, which are very important for you, and your body handles food best when it's combined properly. Look it up. Keep eating improperly combined dead food and see what happens.

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything anymore. This discussion between us has gone nowhere from the moment it started due to your lack of respect for my experience, knowledge and opinions, and your unwillingness to look into anything I've suggested. I am not going to do this anymore. I have too much to do to waste my time trying to help you be healthier when you obviously don't want the help. I just think it's sad that people out there actually listen to you. Oh well. It's their choice, just like it is your's because the information is always available and at your disposal. Unless you're interested in looking at some of the material I've suggested this is the end of our conversation.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 6:11:53 AM PST
j d says:
"Toxins" is just a trendy word these days. Eat some All Bran and drink half a gallon of water. Anything that should come out will.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 6:18:30 AM PST
happytobeme says:
Actually Michael,

The damage from smoking cannot be reversed. I dont believe your lungs ever "recover". When you quit smoking you reduced the inflamation and stop the damage. Unfortunately whatever damage you have done will never go away. Tar is till present even after death during atopsies on patients that have quit smoking. Pulmonary function test show improvement in lung function but usually do not return back to baseline results.

The only advantage Mathew has over us is that he is young only 26. His awareness came soon enough to make a difference. He probably will live longer if he keeps up the healthier lifestyle. I just wish that I had been more focused on my health at age 26. Now at age 43 I might extend my life a few years. At our age the focus is most on the quality of life left. Do you want to still be active and viable at age 70 or do you want to be wearing a nasal cannula and dragging around an O2 tank fighting for every breath. Do you want to be changing a colostomy bag or playing golf? Its the healthy life style changes that can make a difference in the quality of life, not so much the length of life.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 6:53:08 AM PST

" It's scientific fact that cooking your food kills the enzymes, which are very important for you, and your body handles food best when it's combined properly. Look it up. Keep eating improperly combined dead food and see what happens."

Destroys the enzymes? You look it up, or better yet, take a biology course. Enzymes are proteins which catalyze biological reactions. Most of the digestive enzymes needed to digest food are produced in the pancreas and are secreted after food moves out of the stomach. Chymotrypsin is an enzyme present in the stomach which starts to breakdown protein molecules in the stomach.

Here is the kicker, are you paying attention? Since enzymes are proteins, when you eat them, your body does not 'care' that it is an enzyme. To your body, its just another protein to be digested down into amino acids to be recombined into proteins that your body needs.

Enzymes in plants and animals control metabolic reactions in THAT organism. They do not help or control digestion in the organism that eats them. Cooking does denature proteins, but since your body is going to rip them apart does not care.

You see, this is the kind of nonsense you post like it is fact. It simply is not. Your statement does not hold up to the FACTS I learned in Biology 101. And you want me to take it seriously.

The same is true for food combining and "dead" food.

But you are right. Unless you come to this conversation with a rudimentary knowledge of the biological and chemical processes which occur in living will continue to be impressed and believe in quackery.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 7:00:47 AM PST

You are right. I was paraphrasing the statistics by the ALA for quitting. You know the ones, "After 3 hours the nicotine is gone...after 24 hours the carbon monoxide is gone....."

Now that I think of it, I believe that after 10 years, your risk of lung is the same? You would have better knowledge and accessibility to that information than I do. I was throwing out a stat to tell Matthew that just because he is into health now, his previous "life" is not magically erased.

See? I admit it when I am wrong.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 29, 2007 7:37:46 AM PST
Happy Me says:
I know this is what the medical community tells us and it sounds like reasonable thinking. Toxin cleansing is nothing new, it's been around for centuries. I can only speak from personal experience but I been having colonics performed by a certified colon therapist for a couple of years as well as the foot soaks. I'm very pleased with the results. My complexion radiates and my eyes are brighter, my arthritis pains are eased and I am in better health. I've always lead a healthy lifestyle but I have to say I feel better and look better than I ever have. My husband is the world's biggest skeptic and he used to make fun of me but he is now a believer. He recently lowered his blood pressure and cholesterol with these methods. I know there are a lot of quacks out there scheming to take my money but this is my personal experience and I know it has made a difference in my life. I'm glad I broadened my thinking to give it a try.
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