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Initial post: Feb 27, 2012 10:26:11 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
In 1955, Dr. Jonas Salk polio vaccine was made public and since that time polio has been virtually eradicated from every country where the vaccine has remained in use.

Despite hundreds of billions of dollars in medical research and exponential gains in knowledge and medical technology, there has not been a cure produced for any major human disease since that time.

Yet more people are taking RX drugs than at anytime in history. Symptoms are being alleviated, but no one is getting cured. Why?

Because Healthy people do not buy prescription drugs. Why cure someone and cut off the flood of money. Keep them sick, but alive and taking their daily dose and the cash flow will never end.

Of course there are researchers actually attempting to find real cures, but Big Pharma crushes anyone who is getting close to a real breakthrough by pulling the strings of their bought and paid for politicians to insure the FDA hampers those efforts until the under funded researcher runs out of money and has to sell out (to Big pharma who buries the project).

How does Big Pharma know if a small research firm is close to a breakthrough? Well, Big pharma has been caught doing illegal trials in 3rd world nations, preying on the ignorant. This is a fact. Not too hard to imagine them stealing a drug and testing it on human guinie pigs - and if it doesn't work - move on and cross that one off the list of concerns. But if it does work, then rev up the engine and do whatever is needed to insure that cure never sees the light of day.

This is just one theory, if you want to read more, check out my commercial thriller, The RX Factor - www.therxfactor.com
Stay healthy my friends - and avoid big pharma

J. Thomas Shaw

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 3:52:19 AM PST
"In 1955, Dr. Jonas Salk polio vaccine was made public and since that time polio has been virtually eradicated from every country where the vaccine has remained in use."

@J Shaw But there are plenty of other conspirisists that believe all vaccines to be a farce as well.

This is just another in a long line of conspiracy theories regarding the medical world made possible by infomercials and internet "research"

It is getting really old.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 7:29:20 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 28, 2012 7:29:49 AM PST
ColdShot says:
just follow the money

CURES don't make billion$, but treatment protocols designed to maximize profits do.....

any questions?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 9:34:39 AM PST
"CURES don't make billion$"

I guess drug companies do not make billions off of antibiotics and antifungals no? You can't "cure" anything that you can get again.

Posted on Feb 28, 2012 12:56:19 PM PST
ookwormbay7 says:
There's a difference between figuring out how to make vaccines and figuring out cures to other illnesses. Even if you had never heard of vaccines, once you know how getting a virus actually works on your immune system it is an easy connection. Plus, one virus is a lot easier to cure than an illness with a complex set of causes.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 5:12:20 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 28, 2012 5:13:30 PM PST
I see that your experience is in the mortgage business. Not sure how that background qualified you to write a book on 'Big pharma'.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 5:15:10 PM PST
Haha, the mortgage business is about as crooked as they come.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 5:21:25 PM PST
Yep! And they are good at pulling a rabbit out of a hat if necessary to get the job done. Only this rabbit looks more like a weasel being passed off as a rabbit.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 5:45:21 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
It's called research. Read the bio of my collaborater at http://www.therxfactor.com/about-the-author/

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 6:03:17 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
Ask yourself one question (and be truthful) - what would happen to the US economy if an absolute cure for cancer and heart disease was ever produced - and life expectancy rates rised by 15 -20 years (think social security and Medicare)? If you answered the US economy would collapse and the World would follow, you would be right. Conspiracy or not (yet), the government will never allow this to happen should such break throughs be discovered.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 6:05:13 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
here is one that is not a theory - it is a fact:

http://www.jthomasshaw.com/did-the-government-protect-big-pharma-drug-tagament-until-patent-protection-expired/

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 6:24:38 PM PST
You think if big pharma discovered some magic bullet cure, it wouldn't be expensive as hell?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 6:49:11 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
At first it would be. But then insurance companies lobbyists would take over and this would drive the cost way down. The government would not allow insurance rates to sky rocet, so they would force the company to make the price affdable. How? numerous ways, including not honoring patents for the public good. Then there would be numerous cases of people with no insurance and what would the company do, just let all these people die when they had a silver bullet cure - not a chance that policy could last long. The protests would make the 99% protests look like small informal gatherings.

The bottom line is no company can ever invent a cure for a deadly disease and expect to make a lot of money off of it. They could profit, but not to the extent that human life was being lost by those (around the world) who could not afford it. Now if it were a complex surgical procedure that is a different story, but if it is an injection or series of injections that cost next to nothing to produce (which is the case on injections), then zero chance - they would be better off donating it for a perceived value negotiated with the government and then getting a tax deduction.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 7:32:50 PM PST
ookwormbay7 says:
But don't insurance companies charge a LOT for many life-saving preventative medications, or other helpful tools? One example would be the expense of blood glucose test strips, without which a diabetic could put their life in serious danger. Obviously there are other factors involved in that case, but there MUST be lots of examples where people die because they could not afford some type of preventative measure that insurance companies make a lot of money for, right?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 28, 2012 7:52:42 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
All of these costs are measurable and built into the health insurance rates that all insured americans pay. Insurance is a huge issue, but next years rates are set by this years expenditures. Insurance rates are set to cover all costs + achieve the company's profit goals. Despite all the bad press, insurance companies actually drive down the cost of health care by negotiating huge discounts with medical providers (which is why most doctors no longer have time for their patients as they have to see so many extra patients per day to make their practice stay afloat). If you go to the hospital and offer to pay cash, the quoted cost will be about 3 x higher then what the hospital will collect from your insurance company/co-pay.

It is a way harder sell to ask a company (big Pharma) to pay for a lifetime supply of maintenance supplies/drugs for an uninsured American then to make the cost of a silver bullet cure affordable for all. If you have a dose of medicine that will indefinitely save someone's life, that is a whole different scenario then that person needing that dose every day to keep going. As a human being, it is almost impossible ot deny someone that single dose, but no one can reasonably expect someone else to provide them everyday for life.

Posted on Feb 29, 2012 5:04:21 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 29, 2012 5:05:46 AM PST
Coregon says:
go to earthclinic.com and read personal testimonies of natural remedies for disease that were successful. You'll be there for hours, amazing site and they aren't selling a thing.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 5:18:56 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 5:45:31 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 29, 2012 5:46:30 AM PST
"At first it would be. But then insurance companies lobbyists would take over and this would drive the cost way down. The government would not allow insurance rates to sky rocet, so they would force the company to make the price affdable"

I have yet to see the government regulate ANY free market price of any privatized health care service or product to date. What makes you think they would do such with a cancer "cure". And is that mechanism was possible, we would have seen this already in some form. The drug companies do not have their own powerful lobby as well?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 8:33:56 AM PST
GRR DTOM says:
There is simply a LOT more money to made off of drugs designed to control symptoms, and just as much money to made off of even more drugs to control the side effects of the other drugs. Corporate America is driven by Wall Street demands/expectations and profit. If you really want to know how big pharma operates just type the name of any of the top 15 drug companies into google followed by the word 'fraud'. That will tell you all you need to know. These are the same companies that create the chemical cocktails that the lemmings line up for to have injected into their blood streams and into their children. That's the definition of insanity, IMO.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 1:04:21 PM PST
J. Shaw, drug patents are there to allow a company to recoup the millions/billion spent on its research. You wouldn't like it if you spent millions and decades researching something, then another company reproduced the same thing on your hard work.

But H. pylori even today is only marginally treated with antibiotics and is the reason for the reluctance to approve all these antibiotics for treatment. In fact, an increasingly amount of cases are showing drug resistance. Even the most effective treatments we have is to treat the actual ulcer with a combination of proton pump inhibitors and antibiotics and let the body take care of the infection itself. Antibiotics do little to such a tough bacterium, I mean come on, the organism thrives in one of the strongest acid in the world. Conspiratory people just twist the story to make it look that way instead of actually understanding what is going on.

Besides, if antibiotics are largely approved and the H. pylori reacts poorly to it (which has been long demonstrated), then you're going to turn around and accuse the drug companies of making money off of medication that doesn't work. Don't kid with anyone, we know you will find a way to complain either way.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 1:34:24 PM PST
ColdShot says:
antibiotics and antifungals are treatments, not cures.

pig pharma is just another money whore who will poop all over anyone who threatens their cash flow
but with more muscle and persuasive techniques to instill fear of using alternatives than the opposition has.

both sides have treatments, not cures. I'd rather use the KISS method, and try cheap first.
people need to learn about their bodies and take responsibility and participate as opposed to
plopping it all in the lap of a doctor, natural or otherwise to fix it for them.....they're not a laundry service.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 1:40:12 PM PST
ColdShot says:
any magic bullet would kill the treatment centers....so, it would never make it to market.

it's pie in the sky talk to keep hope eternal....while any semblence of a "cure" [ no such thing ]
gets bought up, or swept under the carpet, or smeared as quackery [ depending on who it is ]...because the
whores [ those who design treatment protocols ] have to maximize profits for their own brotherhood...any doctor knows that!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 1:41:02 PM PST
"antibiotics and antifungals are treatments, not cures"

Huh? If it's given to a patient with the infection, and the infection goes away, how is that not a cure?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 1:41:50 PM PST
"any magic bullet would kill the treatment centers"

Well where do you think these people are going to go for that cure, Walmart?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 29, 2012 2:24:49 PM PST
J. Shaw says:
Which Pharma company do you work for?

If your statement is correct, please explain why the 2 physicians (Marshall & Warren) that made this discovery that peptic ulcers are caused by H.Pylori and can be cured with antibiotocs were awarded the nobel prize in medicine in 2005 for this discovery?

References

1. Alper, Joseph. "Ulcers as an infectious disease." Science, Vol. 260, April 9, 1993, pp. 159-60.
2. Conwell, Carl F., et al. "Prevalence of Helicobacter pylori in family practice patients with refractory dyspepsia; a comparison of tests available in the office." The Journal of Family Practice, Vol. 41, No. 3, September 1995, pp. 245-49.
3. Freudenheim, Milt. "New Drug Era Begins as Tagamet Patent Ends." New York Times, May 17, 1994.
4. Vines, Gail. "The enemy within." New Scientist, October 15, 1994, pp. 12-14.
5. Helicobacter pylori, Office for Science and Society, Department of Chemistry, McGill University, 2003.

Boom!!! - facts do not lie - And another conspirator's B.S. bites the dust.

And for those that are now aware, antibiotocs are dirt cheap to buy and add minimal cash value to big pharma's bottom line. This is why Big Pharma prefers selling patented medicine and works with the FDA to insure real cures are buried whole there daily coping medications enjoy long and extremely profitable shelf lifes.

read more at www.therxfactor.com
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