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Initial post: Jul 6, 2011 5:34:24 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 6, 2011 5:41:36 AM PDT
YTWong says:
There's a new documentary about the cancer industry that will be released soon...I can't seem to find it on yet but I think it will be made available soon.

It's called "Cut Poison Burn".

"The Film tells the grim tale of the half century War on Cancer and focuses on the character of Thomas Navarro. In 1999, the four year old boy was diagnosed with brain cancer and thrust into the system of Surgery, Chemo and Radiation and not allowed to be treated with a proven method by Texas Doctor Stanislaw Burzynski. The war between the Navarro Family and the FDA is perhaps this country's greatest evidence as to why there should be medical freedom and how since the War on Cancer began in 1971, the war is still failing in 2009."

I believe this is something everyone should watch...

Related: Burzynski, the Movie - Cancer Is Serious Business

Posted on Jul 6, 2011 5:35:12 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 6, 2011 5:35:24 AM PDT
YTWong says:
And here's the official website:

Posted on Jul 12, 2011 2:46:48 AM PDT
YTWong says:
Just found out you can actually download this documentary for free...

Here's the link:

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 12, 2011 9:32:22 PM PDT
spookiewon says:
There is medical freedom. You can always choose not to have treatment for your cancer if you prefer not to. I'll continue to treat mine, thank you very much.

Cancer is not one disease, you know. There are thousands of different cancers, and they all need different treatments. And we're not failing at all. Many cancers that were a guaranteed death sentence in 1971 are completely curable in 2011.

Talk to me when it's your cancer you're not treating with surgery, chemotherapy, radiation, or all three.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 13, 2011 10:31:26 AM PDT
YTWong says:
"There is medical freedom. You can always choose not to have treatment for your cancer if you prefer not to."

Is there? That's exactly what this documentary is about...the right to choose. The medical freedom that was suppose to be there, but isn't...

Talk to me when you have watched it...

Posted on Sep 24, 2011 6:13:04 AM PDT
KorDonBlue says:
worth watching...

Posted on Sep 27, 2011 8:49:53 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 27, 2011 8:50:14 AM PDT
Bulrush says:
In the US you can choose whatever treatment you want, just don't expect your insurance to pay for it. I think that's what the OP left out. They wanted the insurance to cover any old method, even unproven methods.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 27, 2011 9:29:54 AM PDT
J. W. Beene says:
Those who posted no did not view the video or just hacks. Because this video is all about who gets to chose what and how much of a treatment you as the patient get too decide.

Posted on Sep 29, 2011 11:13:57 AM PDT
StinkerBell says:
I have heard several stories over the years of parent's and even teens opting for a homeopathic remedy to treat their cancer. If medical treatment is a free choice, then why were those stories in the news about DCFS taking the kids away from the parents? Or the kids ended up going into hiding. No, there is no freedom in medical treatment in the US. If you don't conform to what the government or what society thinks you should do(of course society's opinions are based on what the govt tells them, which is told by who you ask?-The pharmaceutical companies who make huge profits)then you are automatically wrong, and if it's a child involved, they WILL take your child. I firmly believe there IS a cure for cancer out there. Just like there's a cure for HIV and probably a whole slew of other stuff. However, how profitable is it for the pharmy companies to cure diseases, when they can prolong the illness and sell their snake oil for hands over fists full of profits?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 10:50:17 AM PDT
spookiewon says:
Movie or no movie. You are ALWAYS free to choose not to treat your cancer. Always. If the issue is, should you be allowed to use substances to treat your cancer that other people consider "wrong" to use, that's a separate issue. I fully believe you should be allowed to use ANY substance for ANY reason for YOURSELF. We don't have that freedom , but it goes FAR beyond cancer treatment and involves all consensual crimes--seat belt laws, helmet laws, drug laws, sex laws... if it doesn't involve another adult's person or property it "ain't nobody's business if you do." Children are another matter. Plain and simple, parent's DON'T have the right to make any decision they choose for their children and arguing that they should is crazy. Suppose I think it's in my child's best interest to to work full time in a foundry at age four? Maybe I think it builds character, and maybe we need the money as a family. Why should that be illegal? It's illegal because AS A SOCIETY we agree that four-year-olds are too young to work in factories full time and it's harmful to them. We agree that we will prevent parent's from requiring their children to do that. Arguing that parent's should be able to allow or deny medical treatment is the same. This is not rocket science.

The difference between conventional cancer treatment and the alternative treatments presented by Mercola and other alternative medicine sites is that conventional treatments have controlled, peer-reviewed research showing their effectiveness rather than anecdotal (at best) evidence and conventional cancer treatment is getting less invasive and more effective every day.

There's nothing mysterious or unnatural about treating cancer by cutting, poisoning and burning. Cancers are uncontrolled growth. Many things in nature can best be controlled when they are out of control in similar ways. If a wildfire rages out of control, firefighters will cut brush near the fire area and/or start controlled fires deliberately to starve the uncontrolled fire.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 10:54:02 AM PDT
spookiewon says:
That is correct. I am a cancer patient. I always have the right to refuse any treatment, and I have the right to use alternative treatments, but my insurance company only pays for those which have been determined, by controlled and peer-reviewed research, to be effective. This is true for everyone in the US.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 30, 2011 10:56:30 AM PDT
spookiewon says:
Yes, and we're being visited by aliens, and the government is hiding that from us, too! Geeze!

Posted on Oct 6, 2011 2:47:55 AM PDT
YTWong says:
An interesting book to read:

The Truth About the Drug Companies: How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It

Posted on Oct 6, 2011 3:08:21 AM PDT
YTWong says:
Dr. Burzynski is also featured in this one:

CANCER is curable NOW DVD

Posted on Oct 14, 2011 12:47:34 PM PDT
film lover says:
Education about cancer is vital. This film provides important information and people can choose to do what they want with it, but enough is enough. The point is that everyone deserves to be informed in advance as to what options are out there, and have a choice of complementary treatments, without fear of penalty or repercussion from the FDA, government or our medical monopoly. The war on cancer is still raging and we are still losing 1,500 people a DAY to this disease, with no real change in cures in over 100 years. Think about it... 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women will be diagnosed this year. What if it was you and you had no voice?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 6, 2011 3:06:10 PM PST
Palmer says:
There are many people who have treated their cancer without the use of surgery, chemotherapy, or radiation, you just talk to the wrong people. By the way cancer is a symptom of a far worse sickness. If you think about what cancer really is (your own cells growing out of control) you need to think about what is going on in your nervous system that is allowing these cells to grow the way that they are. Everyone has the potential to develop cancer with cells growing and dying every second, but those who are closer to HEALth, those whose immune and nervous systems are optimally working, do not develop this disease. I have the same organs, and organ systems as you and anyone else on this planet, so a question to ask yourself is why shouldn't we all be cancer free? It breaks my heart watching people die, not from the cancer but from these "treatments" when there are natural more effective ways of healing.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 6, 2011 6:36:41 PM PST
spookiewon says:
It IS me, and my oncologist has ASKED me every step of the way what I WANT to do to treat my cancer. His job is to present me with the data so I can make in informed decision. The assertion that you don't have the freedom to choose is simply NOT true.

I am is a state-wide online support group for cancer patients, run by the university cancer center I am a patient at, though the support group is for patients and their loved-ones who are receiving treatment anywhere in the state. Some members of my group have decided on alternative treatments, though none of them have survived, so I can't really say how they feel about their treatment. That isn't to say it was a mistake for them to make this choice, just that alternative treatments are not the panacea they are being presented here as.

It is simply untrue that cancer treatment hasn't changed in in over 100 years. It isn't even true that things haven't changed in ten years. They change every day, and that's why your best chance for survival is a top-notch university cancer center where they're familiar with the very latest treatments and have available treatments that might not be available in smaller medical centers. Some of my support group friends are receiving experimental treatments that are prolonging their lives far longer than people with their cancers have survived in the past.

I think you're misusing the word "complementary." Certainly no one, not the FDA, not oncologists or any other doctors, objects to alternative treatments being used to complement (that words means "to complete") traditional treatments. The danger is in using them INSTEAD of scientifically proven treatments. In fact, my doctor has encouraged my use of alternative treatment such as reiki and massage, and I've found it to be very helpful in relieving my pain and reducing the stress of treatment. If I had told him I didn't want to use traditional treatments but was expecting reiki to CURE my caner he would have discouraged it and he well should. He would not have forced the treatment on me, and I would still be welcome as a patient for palliative care, if I chose. My doctor is among the most respected urilogical oncologists in the world, BTW.

The FDA'a only "penalty" or "repercussion" comes in the form of the fact that we make some drugs unavailable for purchase in this country--those drugs on Schedule I. They supposedly have no medical use, but in the case of several, marijuana included, that is clearly not true. But that's not a cancer issue--it's a personal freedom issue. The FDA can't decide that you specifically will or won't receive surgery, chemotherapy, or radiation, only if those treatments will be legally available to anyone. The "government" is too ubiquitous a term to have any say in your treatment.

I believe you really want to say that you aren't free to get someone else to pay for treatments that have not been proven to have an effect. That would be true. Insurance companies and Medicare and Medicaid pay only for treatments that have peer-reviewed research that proves their effectiveness. Alternative providers are certainly free to do those double-blind studies and prove their effectiveness, but it's not in anyone's best interest for third-party payers to pay for treatments that have not been proven to have an effect.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 6, 2011 6:42:25 PM PST
spookiewon says:
It is just flat out not true that healthy people don't get cancer and people who have compromised systems do. Many of the people in my support group have the healthiest lifestyles imaginable. One woman, who is battling several different kinds of invasive and metastatic cancer is an instructor of martial arts and practitioner of yoga. By your line of reasoning she should not have ever contracted cancer, yet she did. The biggest problem with alternative treatments is that every person and every cancer is is different, and alternative practitioners oversimplify cancer treatment.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2011 7:18:06 PM PST
Palmer says:
That is the misconception we have about HEALth. Your group member participates in martial arts, well Lance Armstrong is a freak of nature when it comes to health in the CV system and we saw what happened to him. There is more to being healthy than just working out 4 times a week and having a greater energy expenditure than energy intake. Do you (not you specifically) eat nutrient proper food, reduce your toxins (you may be suprised how many places you will find this) and detox your body to get rid of the ones you can't avoid, what are your thoughts and mind set, and is your nervous system clear (after all it does control everything and it connects your brain to the entire body). I have spoken with patients who were given a less than 10% chance of surviving their cancer, patients who were not given the chance to survive through the night and are out now living their lives. Your body is your temple, and if you take care of it, it will take care of you 100% of the time. It is the most efficient organism on this planet and I know for a fact that nothing any man makes can be put in my body and will work better or more efficiently than my brain. I pray the route you have chosen will work for you, but there is a route that has shown much success without the devastating affects of "traditional treatment".

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 7, 2011 7:31:30 PM PST
Palmer says:
Message? Thats it? Thats all this doc suggested? Remind me to stay far away from this person. And most doctors will tell you you have a choice but attempt to scare you into going through with their care plan for you if you try to disagree. Tell your doctor you don't want the flu shot or the gardasil shot and watch them turn blue in the face trying to feed you bs when you tell them you don't want to be poisoned. Its quite funny actually.

Posted on Nov 25, 2011 1:56:15 AM PST
YTWong says:
Some interesting videos on YouTube that I found:

Please note: I am not for or against this DCA treatment. As with the Cut Poison Burn documentary, I feel we should do our own research, be informed and have the freedom to make our own treatment choices.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 29, 2011 10:47:47 AM PST
graceygirl says:
I am a recovering cancer patient and a nurse of long standing. I had 2 types of cancer, both requiring surgery to remove the tumors and then followed up with 6 months of chemotherapy. As a health care practitioner, I have alot of knowledge and experience with our health care system. I have always been a bit of a skeptic when it comes to our health care system. I had always said I would never ever do chemo if I had cancer because, as a nurse, I saw the awful side effects of the chemo and on more than one occasion, saw it prematurely end people lives. However, when my time came to face cancer, I never even questioned the concept of chemo, I just said yes.

When I was introduced to my oncologist I was told that with my regimen, "most people" would experience some tingling in their fingers and some tiredness. I was told that "most people" worked while receiving it. I soon found out that I was no where near being like "most people." I experienced terrible side effects, debilitating ones, and all my oncologist kept saying was "it can't be the chemo, you must have picked up a bug", or "you aren't supposed to have this until treatment 8 or 9." I addressed this with the oncologist, but he kept protecting the chemo making me feel like there was something wrong with me.

So, I left that cancer center and flew to Philadelphia to Cancer Treatment Centers of America, where they combine conventional medicine with alternative medicines. This includes dietary supplements, Reiki, Accupuncture, Massage, Spiritual and emotional counceling, and so on. Yes, my chemo was the same there, but I was given alot more supportive therapies which helped me to get through the rest of my treatments. Thank God for the wonderful people and the medical approach that they have. There is not enough room here to describe what they do there.

Now, I am 4 months past my last chemotherapy treatment and my life has been devestated. I have some pretty severe neuropathy in my hands, feet and legs. Though I am heavily working out 3 times a week, I am exhausted all the time, my balance is poor, endurance poor, vision has been altered, I have muscle and joint pains all the time. I have lost my job and now can no longer afford to pay for my house and will need to sell that. I am extremely grateful for being alive and I don't know what my future will be as far as whether or not the cancer will come back. Taking the chemo after my two surgeries only raised my statistics from 60% cure to 70-75%. What upsets me is that my new oncologist close to home has been talking to her peer, my original oncologist I fired, and he tells this new young, fresh out of school MD that in his 30+ years of being an oncologist he has never seen someone like me, so effected by the chemo. I have gone on line and have connected with blogs of those experiencing just the same things as I and they are told it is not the chemo or that they have never seen this before. I keep getting the feeling that I am not an anomaly, that there are many others out there just like me and that the medical profession does not want to address this. My new oncologist told me that the drug companies don't do long term studies of the effects of the chemo, so they don't really know what the long term effects are in full. And, there are no published studies as to why treatment #12 was the most effective and not, let's say treatment #8. The drug companies don't publish how they got to those numbers.

We all want to live as long as we can, but after actually being a patient, receiving good care and not so good care, all I can say is I have more questions now than ever. One thing I can say is what my new oncologist said, "Chemotherapy is poison and it does have devestating effects during and long after it is given, but, I am sorry to say, it is all we have right now to treat you. Maybe some day it will be different." The oncology center this new oncologist is from is not the one in Philadelphia, and this center doesn't offer anything but surgery, chemo, and radiation. They don't believe in naturopathic medicine and will not offer it. I feel that I was not given ALL the potential side effects I could experience and how this treatment could potentially alter my life. This is called full informed consent. I may not be "most people", but I was not in the studies these physicians seem to be basing their responses on. And, I do believe that the drug companies have too much influence over our physicians ways of practicing. Did you know that in many situations, the oncologist is paid directly for every chemo drug he prescribes. If that doesn't set up an ethical situation where a physician can be unduly influenced in all his decisions regarding your care. Most oncologists, I am sure, are ethically sound, but time and time again, I heard from many other patients the same responses from their MD's, "It can't be the chemo." I am here to say, OH YES IT IS.

We are consumers in the health care system. We have a right to know about ALL side effects and ALL treatments available, and I mean ALL, conventional and alternative. Not just the ones that make a HUGE profit for the drug companies and those in bed with them.

Posted on Dec 29, 2011 12:03:03 PM PST
film lover says:
Please watch the film 'Cut Poison Burn' and learn more about why we are losing this war on cancer and what you can do to help create change in our broken system. We need acceptable, new medical treatments, patient rights and access to drugs that ARE working. The filmmakers have made it available by DVD for a low cost, or you can download it at ANY cost - even free. It's THAT important.

Posted on Dec 30, 2011 10:48:22 AM PST
YTWong says:
Thanks for your comment, graceygirl and film lover.

I also would like to recommend this one for everyone to watch...

Cancer - The Forbidden Cures

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 17, 2012 6:51:58 AM PDT
Thank you for your honesty. I am a newly diagnosed breast cancer patient. I am fighting and winning my battle over cancer with GOD, nutrition, and exercise/meditation. Not surgery, chemo or radiation! God gave us an amazing body that with the right care will do amazing things like prevent and cure cancer. I've been only less than 2 months on my new care and already my cyst/tumor has shrunk and I feel amazing. I can't wait to pull together all my resources from research I've done along with my healed body and shout to the world about all the disceptions out there, and start helping people heal any disease they battle. God is great and He is showing me how.
See: videos and books; Forks over Knives, The China Study, Healing Cancer from Inside Out, just to name a few. Best to you in health.
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