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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 28, 2012 5:01:28 PM PDT
TN says:
Not a bad idea. Vinegar doesn't poison the soil, is organic. But it makes the soil more acidic. However rain water will dilute it. Or some gypsum could be mixed into the soil to neutralize vinegar, etc...

I'll look into that :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 28, 2012 5:22:58 PM PDT
KING CONAN says:
Good for daddy,

When Obama bailed out GM
Some commoners made money.

The US bailout money also
built factory's in CHINA and
SOUTH AMERICA.
Those jobs aren't coming back.

I side with the Boeing Builders
who tipped the equiptment over
when the CHINESE were dismantling
their factory.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 28, 2012 7:00:16 PM PDT
Vandal Falke says:
Yeah... and then he confiscated all the guns, and well, you know the rest.

Posted on Jul 29, 2012 12:43:21 AM PDT
[Deleted by Amazon on Jul 29, 2012 1:02:18 AM PDT]

Posted on Jul 29, 2012 7:41:11 AM PDT
Treehugger© says:
Q: Is General Motors becoming `China Motors' using taxpayer dollars?

A: No. The restructured GM is still based in Detroit and is still one-third owned by the U.S. government. But it sells nearly as many cars in China as in the U.S. and has continued expanding operations there.

factcheck.org

Posted on Jul 30, 2012 8:09:57 AM PDT
J. Linnell says:
Amazon has deleted my reviews on roundup products. I see nothing here that violates the review guidelines. Shall I suspect the heavy hand of the Monsantocracy?

Safety questions are important in asessment of product. What is there to fear if untrue?

"New independent testing is showing that these are rife with persistant  hazards for the soil, water, creatures, including humans. 

Official testing not thoroughly done, relied on manufacturers' data, and only what they allowed to be released. Do some research, don't be gullible. New York state lawsuit on label claims of safety was settled on behalf of the state. 

I've heard a cavalier remark that since we don't know of adverse health effects, this stuff is fine. Adverse health effects would have to occur immediately, symptoms would have to be completely different from common diseases, and be dramatic and obvious to the naked eye, and would have to be traced to a stew of chemicals that are widely guessed to be okay.
We know that is not comprehensive enough,  an example the long term harm of trans-fats, asbestos, DES, and so on.

Note that FDA is stacked with ex-monsanto employees, has been for many years, throughout all different administrations. Would not be surprising if EPA, USDA similarly compromised. Lots of $$ being spent to shape public and official opinion, and divert from negative information on this product.

Manual removal, mulching with cardboard, goat herd 'rental' are some other solutions for difficult weeds.

Amazon, really should allow negative stars on review."

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 31, 2012 7:19:22 AM PDT
monsanto shill

Posted on Aug 29, 2012 11:22:22 AM PDT
Bricktop says:
First ad for "Yes on Proposition 37" is out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szq2GFYktG8

I think it's a powerful ad, should do exactly what it's intended to do - get Monsanto the hell out of the food chain.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 29, 2012 11:41:38 PM PDT
KING CONAN says:
So the headquarters are in Detroit,
But they're building Cadillacs in
China.

That is MY factcheck you cut and
paste Einstein.

Posted on Aug 31, 2012 3:28:45 AM PDT
usualy you vaganal has a oder if u eat sumin you not supose to...

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 7:00:08 AM PDT
KING CONAN says:
French study leads to France banning
Monsanto GMO Corn.
After the study was researched,
Russia is also banning Monsanto Corn.

MONSANTO responded saying:
"The French study was not long enough."
1: MONSANTO study = 90 Days
2: French study = 730 Days

The European Union responded by
LOWERING their standards??????

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-
09-26/eu-to-lower-gm-rules-in-face-of-
study-showing-immense-harm/

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 7:16:49 AM PDT
Flawed study Conan. Even the media recognizes that.

New study linking genetically modified corn to cancer not scientific
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-study-linking-genetically-modified-corn-to-cancer-not-scientific

Does genetically modified corn cause cancer? A flawed study fails to convince
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2012/09/24/does-genetically-modified-corn-cause-cancer-a-flawed-study/

GM Corn-Tumor Link Based on Poor Science
http://news.discovery.com/earth/gm-corn-tumor-study-120920.html

Debate over genetically modified food lacks reasoned arguments http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Schwarcz+Debate+over+genetically+modified+food+lacks+reasoned+arguments/7309263/story.html#ixzz27rt4SBi6

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 7:58:06 AM PDT
KING CONAN says:
D. A. ,

So you believe the EU should lower
the testing requirements?

I know you've heard of the strong
arm tactics, used against foreign
gov'ts to use GMO in their crops.

If everything were above boards
wouldn't GMO's sell themselves.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 9:06:32 AM PDT
Their foods have yet to be proven safe or unsafe. This is because Monsanto has done everything in their power not to allow studies to be done. Why? Because they know GMOs are unsafe! It's all a money game.

As for lesser amounts of chemicals being used and higher yields, in reality, more chemicals are used and the yields are questionable as to being more than non-GMOs. Someone is believing the Monsanto lies!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 9:31:09 AM PDT
The statement that "All of those seed catalog companies are selling consumers patented seeds, too" is totally false. The only patented seeds are genetically modified seeds.

It is very apparent that the nature of GMOs is not understood when you say "I'm really more than happy to purchase and consume GMO produce. It's better than sprayed produce." Round-up Ready varieties are engineered to withstand being sprayed by Round-up. So, GMO crops are sprayed, possibly even more than non-GMO crops. Bt engineered seeds are even worse. They are engineered to actually produce a pesticide in the plant itself. You would rather consume GMOs than sprayed produce? Please do the research! When you eat Bt foods, you are eating food that produces an insecticide! Studies have not been conclusive on what effect that has on people, but common sense says it cannot be good.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 9:44:21 AM PDT
"They are engineered to actually produce a pesticide in the plant itself. You would rather consume GMOs than sprayed produce?"

False. Round-Up ready seeds are engineered not to uptake glyphosate, a weed-killing ingredient of Round Up. The GMO plant does not "produce a pesticide in the plant itself". They produce nothing.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 9:56:27 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2012 9:57:30 AM PDT
Conan, GMO corn has been around for 15+ years, yet incidence of a variety of tumor-based cancers has actually dropped. This fact alone nulls the study.

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"The response from the scientific community was immediate and harsh. The control group was way too small, there was no disclosure of control rats with tumours, data were improperly interpreted, there was no dose-response relationship, and the strain of rat used was genetically susceptible to tumours. Particularly bothersome was the fact that the research group refused to provide advance copies of its work to reporters unless they signed agreements not to consult other experts. Seralini has now stated that he will not allow scientists from the European Food Safety Association to verify his results because they are the ones who approved GMOs in the first place. That, to be kind to the man, is bizarre."
http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Schwarcz+Debate+over+genetically+modified+food+lacks+reasoned+arguments/7309263/story.html#ixzz27sXdl2Ki

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 10:26:15 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 10:27:33 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Sep 29, 2012 10:28:44 AM PDT
"False. Round-Up ready seeds are engineered not to uptake glyphosate, a weed-killing ingredient of Round Up. The GMO plant does not "produce a pesticide in the plant itself". They produce nothing."

You are absolutely right about the Round-Up ready seeds; however, I was referring to Bt seeds. To clarify, they are, indeed, engineered to produce Bt toxin in the plant itself. It is actually widely known that Bt seeds are engineered to do that.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 10:44:01 AM PDT
Bricktop says:
Not a flawed study at all, the usual misinformation from the mainstream media after the usual pundits cry out against it.

Intentional disinformation about Seralini study - http://www.cban.ca/content/download/1492/9351/file/Intentional%20Disinformation%20on%20Seralini.pdf

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 10:55:54 AM PDT
KING CONAN says:
If only those stupid Russians
knew as much as you.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 11:30:53 AM PDT
Did a child write that pdf?

Spontaneous neoplasms in aged Sprague-Dawley rats.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1444814

Spontaneous Tumors in Sprague-Dawley Rats and Swiss Mice1
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/33/11/2768.full.pdf
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Flawed study just on that note, which by the way that pdf "red herring" doesn't even make a relevant facutal rebuttal. You simply cannot use a rat line highly prone to spontaneous cancer in a study in which a poorly made cancer conclusion is being made. HUGE confounder and anyone wanting an unbias study is going to avoid that. Whoever approved the Sprague-Dawley rats for that study just wasted everyone's money.

Posted on Sep 29, 2012 11:39:03 AM PDT
Here is that study.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637

Nowhere does it actually make a comparison between contol and study group tumor incidence. In fact, a few tables of data are missing. Imagine that!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:05:36 PM PDT
KING CONAN says:
Where is the MONSANTO study?

Why did the EU lower suspect standards?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 29, 2012 12:05:46 PM PDT
The Bt toxin comes from the bacteria bacillus thuringiensis and is naturally found in abundance in dirt. It's a toxin to insects, not humans.
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