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Initial post: Feb 2, 2012 9:07:17 AM PST
Steven J. says:
Been doing a lot of studying on the history of hypnosis.. Seems to be a mixed bag of pseudo-science and conjecture.. Opinions?

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Posted on Feb 2, 2012 8:33:01 PM PST
spookiewon says:
It depends on what you mean by "work." Hypnosis induces a very relaxed state, and that can be helpful in changing behavior. OTOH, "stage hypnosis" is another animal.

Posted on Feb 3, 2012 8:47:57 AM PST
OldAmazonian says:
It didn't work for me when I tried to hypnotize cute girls in high school.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 3, 2012 11:37:45 AM PST
Carlgo says:
They hypnotized me. I just know it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 3, 2012 4:42:39 PM PST
I was trained in hypnotherapy in graduate school when I was working on my doctorate. Depends on what you want to use it for. I was trained to use it as an adjunct to psychotherapy. I have mixed feelings about using it for things like stopping smoking.

Posted on Feb 3, 2012 9:57:34 PM PST
user30 says:
I have dabbled in this from You-tube videos because I wanted to know what all the "hype" was about,
and well once I was in pain for many days and the hypnosis stopped the pain for 2 hole days! wow! but again with what Kathleen said it depends on what you want to use it for this stopping smoking and stuff yeah I don't see it doing that but taking away pain I did on my self it did work! I have seen muscle growth in a difficult aria from doing this so yes it can help! you basicly get your mind into a really relaxed state and give it a "suggestion" in this state its more aware of your thoughts and it "may" take the suggestion. From stopping pain to growing muscle I can confirm on "some level" it does work! and oh its so relaxing! you'll feel like your on a different planet! It does take some practice but I have seen good results! so I turn to it in emergency situations when Begging God to help, organic food, coconut oil fails, then this is a last resort.
as anyone who read dr bruce fife book on coconut oil (from coconut oil research center) knows about its health benefits and yes its 51 bullet points of health benefits! i'm shocked when the coconut oil wont help.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 2:22:51 PM PST
User,

Even more interesting are past life regressions, which tend to happen sponteously when you are working on the source of a psychological problem. When I was being trained in a Catholic Jesuit-run University, the professor said, whether you believe in it or not, you need to be prepared for people to end up in past lives.

Since I got out of graduate school there has been a movement to regress to the period in between lives: Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives. That is a fascinating and new area. Michael Newton, now retired, developed the technique and has trained people in it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 2:34:54 PM PST
Carlgo says:
well, there are the UFO people and all sorts of things. I would want proof of any claims that are too deep, beyond relaxation and stuff. A friend went to a stop smoking hypnotist. It worked for a few days, only.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 2:52:35 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 4, 2012 4:13:45 PM PST
That is why many hypnotherapists don't like to deal with addictions like nicotine, because, unless you want to change, hypnotherapy only gives support along the way. It is not a magic pill.

I cannot see using it for relaxation, since meditation can do that and you can do that on your own.

Posted on Feb 4, 2012 3:55:00 PM PST
Carlgo says:
The police use it so people can remember license plate numbers and such. I don't know how successful that is. Past lives, alien abductions, etc. seem unsupportable. Am I wrong? So, what good is it? Eating less? Better sexual experiences? Achieving a higher batting average? Fact retention for passing exams? What is it used for these days, what is the modern hypnotist doing?

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 4:12:11 PM PST
Hypnosis can be very successful, but it is not magic. For example, you could use it to determine what is standing in your way of a promotion at work and what you can do to solve the problem. As I said before, it is most powerful as an adjunct to psychotherapy.

I know nothing about alien abductions, but I do know about regressing people into past lives. It happens automatically during regressions if the problem you are working on is influenced by a past life experience. The biggest problem with dealing with past lives is the influence in the west by the medieval church writing reincarnation out of church doctrine. Church doctrine does not change reality, but we in the west have bought into it.

Posted on Feb 4, 2012 4:16:29 PM PST
Carlgo says:
By the church, you mean the Catholic church? And reincarnation was part of the deal at one time? Am interested, not arguing.

Posted on Feb 4, 2012 4:20:57 PM PST
The skill of the therapist along with the clients ability to follow instructions (vs. questioning in their head "am I hypnotized?" "is it working?" etc.) are large factors in the effectiveness of hypnosis. People often over think things and get in their own way of being in trance.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 5:05:36 PM PST
My understanding is that there were certain sects of Christianity that supported the idea of reincarnation. The Roman Catholic church wrote it out of the doctrine. I also understand that this was part of the desire of the church to exercise control over the populace. At that time, the church was somewhat of a government and so it had other interests besides spiritual. And, there were issues of corruption in the church during that time.

People continue to argue about this in churches. From a hypnosis basis, reincarnation is just something you work with, but the church influence has been so profound that it is hard to work with it. Let me give you can example. There are many kinds of hypnosis, not just official hypnosis. Suggestion occurs when you watch advertisements of TV. There has been a huge issue over the inaccuracy of children [false memories] accusing people of child molestation. As a person who has worked with regressions, I think the molestations probably occurred with that same person in the child's past life, not in this life. That is my opinion, for what it is worth.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 5:09:16 PM PST
Some people simply are not good hypnosis subjects.

There are also religious objections to hypnosis. I think there is some justification to that. When you do hypnosis, you develop such a strong connection with your client that you begin to see where they need to go as you guide them. If you are not entirely ethical, what can happen? You can get this person into real trouble using post hypnotic suggestions that the person could not recall on a conscious level. I have always been very careful whom I allow to hypnotize me.

Posted on Feb 4, 2012 5:12:34 PM PST
B. Currey says:
I was EXTREMELY skeptical of it, but had an extreme fear of flying that if I didn't overcome, would begin affecting my career. Out of desperation I went to a local person. The experience was odd, but I left there feeling like I had just gotten a massage. I felt so relaxed and rested. It was great. Two weeks after that I got on a cross country flight and had no trouble. I've flown many times now, and have no fear.

Posted on Feb 4, 2012 5:14:27 PM PST
Carlgo says:
I take it you are a believer in reincarnation and past lives. Any idea of the purpose of that, are there a limited number of lives to live, what about ghosts, is there any contact between lives (like do they exist concurrently), do the people recounting past lives also have a spiritual contact (a god essentially)?

That 's a lot to answer, but I'll read it.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 6:02:44 PM PST
great

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 4, 2012 6:06:00 PM PST
Carl,

Depends on which tradition you follow or the writings of Michael Newton that I quoted earlier. I don't really believe in reincarnation. I just worked with it when I was doing hypnosis. For me it is a tool, not something that I am attached to like it was part of a religious teaching. It is like, if I did not believe in it, it would still work in hypnotic regressions.

Posted on May 23, 2012 12:34:38 AM PDT
R. martini says:
I've been filming a documentary about people under hypnosis for the past four years now, and I can tell you that no matter what walk of life a person is from, with a good hypnotherapist, it's a fairly simple exercise. Problem is "stage hypnosis" or what I like to call "quack like a duck" hypnosis isn't what hypnosis as a therapy tool is about - it's nearly identical to a guided meditation if you've ever done one of those. Hypnosis has been used (as reported by Brian Weiss, and in my book and doc "Flipside") to cure people of phobias, addictions, even physiological cures - I filmed one case where a guy had a lifelong kidney problem I wasn't aware of, nor what the therapist - when it came up during his session he saw that he'd been stabbed by his father in a past life, and after the session, told me how he'd never been able to sit for more than a few minutes without feeling pain - but the pain had dissipated. I happen to know this fellow's doctor, and two weeks later the Doctor asked me what happened during the session. I asked "Why?" and he said "because when he came to me he was in renal failure, I was going to put him on dialysis. But his panels just came back and his kidney function is normal. What happened?" I think hypnosis should be considered just another tool in a doctor's bag. Some people have difficulty with hypnosis to be sure, and most hypnotherapists haven't been trained in the methods that Dr. Newton has trained people in - how to help a person beyond a past life memory and into the life between life memory where they get a chance to see that we have free will, we choose our lives,and choose the drama that's going to happen in them. I could go on, I won't, suffice to say Kathleen has been bearing this torch to help folks into the light. And if you're curious about my research on the topic, I have a book here at Amazon which can be found at flipsidethebook com and the film is at flipsidethefilm com - but I only mention that because those who need to hear this information will find it - it's not for everyone - and I don't mean to upset anyone's belief system. I'm just a filmmaker reporting events as my camera saw them.FlipSide: A Tourist's Guide on How to Navigate the Afterlife

Posted on May 23, 2012 7:19:48 AM PDT
Carlgo says:
There are all these interesting, yet anecdotal, hypnotic journeys to past lives. What is needed are controlled scientific tests where random people would be asked to provide verifiable facts about any past life. Yes, there are reports of this but again it all comes out as anecdotal. You know that so many people report past lives of importance, being Cleopatra and not a cook on a stinking merchant ship.

There have been a lot of bogus uses of hypnosis, such as getting people to recall child abuse that never happened, trips in UFOs, etc. so we do know that there is a lot of "suggestion" in the "power of suggestion". Past lives can be suggested as well, I would think, so any test would have to be really carefully planned and conducted.

Having scientific verification of people having past lives would seem to be about the most important "religious" event in at least modern history, and would effect society, politics, religion, just about everything, so you would think these tests would be undertaken in a serious way, by actual scientists. While authors and filmmakers might just be reporting, their information is coming from the practitioners and perhaps others who "want to believe", and the whole subject needs to be taken to a new level at some point or it is just, frankly, somewhat interesting but unconvincing like stories of aliens, Bigfoot, etc.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 9:21:51 AM PDT
Carlgo: "There have been a lot of bogus uses of hypnosis, such as getting people to recall child abuse that never happened, trips in UFOs, etc. so we do know that there is a lot of "suggestion" in the "power of suggestion"."

I was trained as a hypnotherapist in a Catholic university--University of San Francisco when I was working on a graduate degree. One of the first warnings we received from our instructor was that you need to be aware that subjects can regress into past lives when you are assisting them to find the source of a problem they are working on. He then went to tell us that whether you believe in past lives or not, they will come up in the process of regressing a person in hypnotherapy.

Because our culture denies past lives, when someone is regressed and they truly believe that past lives do not exist, they may still end up in past lives. I think that those examples of "child abuse that never happened" probably did happen in a past life with that same person. Our culture is not served well by most Christian churches denying that past lives exist. Our culture is so infested with the denial of past lives, that when it comes up, many people get very uncomfortable because they have been brainwashed against past lives since early childhood.

Posted on May 23, 2012 5:03:55 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 23, 2012 5:11:12 PM PDT
Arielski says:
I smoked cigarettes for 42 years and quit after 2 hypnosis sessions. It was actually quite easy. Three years later I'm still nicotine free and have no desire to smoke.

But, it didn't work for weight loss.

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 8:25:47 PM PDT
When I used to do hypnosis, it was interesting what could not be changed by post-hypnotic suggestion. It is almost like, we need to work through that issue in another way.

Posted on May 23, 2012 11:13:54 PM PDT
blueskies says:
Hypnosis works well for some people. It is useful in pain management, IBS, asthma, insomnia, warts, among many other things. I recommend going to the ASCH website for information about a hypnotherapist who has been trained by experts. In order to get the training, you are required to have at least a master's degree, and many of the members are medical doctors, dentists, or therapists. Hypnosis has been used to treat some aspects of PTSD, anxiety, and depression. Milton Erickson, the psychiatrist, was famous for his use of hypnosis and for his use of metaphors.
It does work well for some for addictions and weight control. There are some who have benefited in academic performance, and some have benefited from hypnosis for sports performance. I think the key is getting someone who is well trained to perform hypnosis.
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