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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 3:56:44 AM PDT
Spellman says:
@Troy
Read Principles and Practice of Oncology. You will find out the truth about cancer.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 12:35:40 PM PDT
spookiewon says:
Steve Jobs had one of the rarest forms of pancreatic cancer and it's virtually 100% curable caught as early as his was. For a lot of reasons, Steve chose a diet-based cure instead. He pursued this cure for about a year, and then resorted to conventional treatment. Unfortunately, by then it had metastasized to his liver--hence the liver transplant. Had Steve had Whipple surgery when his cancer was discovered it's virtually certain he'd be here today.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 12:36:59 PM PDT
spookiewon says:
LOL I hope no one thinks I live on only what I bother to review!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 12:40:29 PM PDT
spookiewon says:
<sarcasm>Science! Oh, no! Scientists are all liars working for Big Pharma keeping you sick 'cause there's money in it!</sarcasm>

(sorry about the sarcasm tags but sometimes you gotta be obvious so as to not me mistaken by the oblivious...)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 1:29:03 PM PDT
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DeDona says:
Maybe you should take a look at all your recent activity on the other cancer forum. Most of your posts contains www on them so lets not be a hypocrite.
What you stated about Farrah's treatments are complete and utter nonsense which proves you are solely relying your info on www. In Alana Stewart's book My Journey With Farrah, it explains what she went through. Alana Stewart was there with Farrah through her treatments in the US and Germany as well as videotaped her journey for Farrah's Documentary.
In October 2006 to January 2007 she had chemo and radiation that left her badly scarred. On Feb 2 doctors declared her cancer free only for it to return again in May where the doctors wanted to to a radical surgery that is horribly invasive and would mean part of her intestines would be removed and she would have to wear a colostomy bag for the rest of her life. While the doctors at UCLA were still trying to come up with some plans, Farrah got on the plane to Germany. Farrah would be undergoing a procedure called chemo embolization in which the chemo is injected directly into the tumor and it would later be removed by laser surgery. The other treatment which was the only thing you were right about was a liver perfusion. This started in June of 2007. Throughout these treatments she went into remission. She went back home then April 2008 she went for a scan where 4 more tumors appeared. Went to Germany again for more treatments where she went into partial remission. Her doctor at UCLA convinced her to come back to try this new treatment that they have at City of Hope in LA called IT-101 which they sounded very optimistic about. She did that and she got only worse and worse from there. When that treatment was over her primary tumor grew and spread. Instead of the 4 tumors in her liver which the doctors in Germany managed to shrink by more then 50% now there were 40, an astounding 10 times more and the cancer spread to the lymph nodes. She never had and blood clots as your website claimed but she did have major swelling on her left leg due to a tumor on her lymph node in the lower abdomen that was the size of a tennis ball.
I don't go on the computer as often as most people do. Mainly to read my emails. Call me old fashion but I prefer to read books then www or kindles and my library is only growing and growing.

I wanted to edit this part in. It explains a little more about the treatments in Germany.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT99cXy-EWY

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 1:31:33 PM PDT
DeDona says:
Actually is took only about a minute to write that post. You made it very easy for me to copy and paste your posts since they were one after the other and all on the first page. :) Take care.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 1:33:37 PM PDT
DeDona says:
apriljones says:
"Since you don't look at dessert cookbooks, you must not be healthy"

That made no sense whatsoever

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 1:39:12 PM PDT
DeDona says:
I don't know what happened to Jobs but I plan on purchasing his documentary when I get a chance. I have three kids 5 years old and younger so I'll be lucky if I can get to read at least one book a week.
As for Superman, he didn't have cancer. I believe it was an infection from his bed sores due to his paralysis which is common for case.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 1:41:16 PM PDT
DeDona says:
No. It means you like photograpy, reading, music, animals and cleanliness. Good for you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 3:13:23 PM PDT
apriljones says:
I watched the documentary of her, about her, by her and also the interview with Ryan O'neal. Not from the www.. I'm citing proven statements, from legitimate sites, not the crap y'all are on about. My posts that you copied were from very few individuals and I stand by what I posted.

Well gee, my onco told me to watch for leg swelling during chemo. Bet you can't guess why...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 3:25:32 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2012 3:28:46 PM PDT
apriljones says:
The states also do hot chemo bath, as do other countries also... which is injecting the chemo directly into the cancer... Call it what you want, but the correct term is, Hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemoperfusion.

You seem to be on the computer quite a bit...

Had Farrah followed her drs' advice, she'd be alive still...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183415/Farrah-Fawcett-How-cancer-miracle-cure-turned-heartbreak.html

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 4:44:27 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2012 4:50:45 PM PDT
ParrotSlave says:
I had the identical cancer to Fawcett's, and the doctors told me the same thing as they did her. They got rid of mine completely at first, with cisplatin and radiation, but they said that if it ever came back, it would require surgery--no ifs, ands, or, well, you get the idea. It would require at least two or three functioning brain cells to understand why: any cancer cells that survive the initial treatment are most likely resistant to at least the cisplatin-family of drugs and perhaps even slightly resistant to radiation. Mine has not come back: it was killed in summer, 2004. Hers came back only a few months later. She had a very simple choice: a colostomy, or death; she chose death, a slow, lingering one at that.

Dr. Ursula Jacob of Germany's Alpenpark Clinic treated Fawcett when she decided to abandon standard U.S. care. In an interview with Access Hollywood, Jacob says that, in Germany, Fawcett was given "natural supplements and also immune treatments" that were tailored to her specific case. Apparently, they don't have HIPPA in Germany. (http://www.webmd.com/cancer/news/20090515/farrah-fawcetts-german-cancer-care) Other sites are more specific about the "alternative" part of it, such as stating that it was a mixture of hyperthermia, "detoxification," and immunity boosting, or, more specifically, shark cartilage, selenium, vitamin D and calcium. Although those who dwell in the woodwork inevitably blame her demise on chemotherapy itself, there are some interesting other "theories" from them, including the idea that it was because she loved to drink sugary Coca Cola, while others blame it on the fact that she supposedly also loved aspartame-containing drinks.

According to People.com, "The German magazine Bunte first reported that the actress is undergoing chemotherapy in the University Clinic in Frankfurt, combining the treatments with alternative healing methods in Bad Wiessee, in southern Germany." (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20058833,00.html)

Orac tried to figure out what was going on also, stating "One thing that piqued my interest about this story is how vehemently Nevius denied that Fawcett was undergoing any form of "alternative" therapy. Whenever I see a denial like that, especially when no information is actually given about the treatments being used aside from vague descriptions of a complication from a procedure they wouldn't identify, my skeptical antennae start twitching something fierce. This is even more true, given that I know from earlier reports that Fawcett had been treated at an 'alternative' clinic in Bad Wiessee in southern Germany in conjunction with chemotherapy at the University Clinic in Frankfurt. All of this made me wonder very much what this "alternative" therapy could be."

Orac's initial speculation about the situation was wrong, which he corrected at http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/08/orac-screwed-up-it-looks-that-way/. He quoted from a Daily Mail article regarding the treatment: "The Leonardis clinic claims to have one of the highest success rates in Germany. On admission, Farrah's blood was analysed as part of a 'special chemo sensitivity test'. 'This involves using DNA to detect your sensitivity not only to chemos, but also to various herbal and nutritional therapies,' a clinic source said. According to sources, Farrah was given liquid shark cartilage to stop angiogenisis...injections of...selenium, injections of vitamin D and calcium and an amino acid mix...." (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1166586/Brave-Farrah-Fawcett-crossed-world-search-cancer-cure--miracle.html#ixzz1wg7MsigV)

Of course, one can argue that "sources close to Farrah" might not always have been reliable; shortly before her impeding death, "Those close to Farrah insist that suggestions of her impending death are untrue." I suppose that these various media outlets could all be accused of lying about her, but it is fairly self-evident that she dilly-dallied around with seeking an alternative to a colostomy, which, if it had been done expeditiously, would most likely have allowed her to live, inconvenienced yes, appealing to her fans, probably not: I blame her death on vanity.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 6:09:34 PM PDT
apriljones says:
Your last sentence hit the nail on the head, Parrot. It's great that you chose life, with all its inconveniences. I'll proudly sport my bald spot and gladly point out my one sideburn. And will do it again when the time comes.

Posted on Jun 2, 2012 8:35:10 PM PDT
Saffrons Lab says:
I'm 30 years old and I have fought and won the battle of breast cancer on my own. I went the complete unconventional way and won. I pulled two tumors out of my breast with black salve from alpha and omega labs (I have pictures to prove it), take their Amazon Tonic that contains Olieander, gravieola and chaparelle. I take vit D3, vit E, essiac, cell food and a few others. I also have changed my diet, juice and get Rife Treatments. If you find the true story of Dr Rife you will see that he found the cure to cancer in the 40s but since he wasn't willing to share the company he was blacklisted and all his studies were stolen. I'm not the only one I know who's cured their own cancer. It's possible and I'm sick of Drs trying to scare people. Im willing to speak with anyone who is looking outside the box for help. You're welcome to email me amberlabounty@yahoo.com

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 10:05:56 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 2, 2012 10:35:31 PM PDT
apriljones says:
You one crazy chick! I honestly hope you don't really believe black salve removes tumors.. No one with a logical brain cell would believe that. Have you ever seen a psychic surgeon remove tumors from somebody? Well I have, but the person they performed it on was perfectly healthy, proving without a doubt, they were a sham. Breast cancer, 30 years old huh??

You know oleander is poisonous, correct? Not like, to your cancer, but like, to you...
you know chaparral is toxic to your liver, right?
I know whatever meds I put into my body, I sure knew how to spell it.

Go to Dr Lorraine Day's website and check out her fake tumor that she magically cured!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 11:11:07 PM PDT
Saffrons Lab says:
Wow April you sound angry. I know people tend to question what they don't understand, that's fine. Yes my story is all true, I have no reason to lie. Like I mentioned I have pictures to prove that the black salve did in fact pull two tumors out of my breast. And yes, I am 30 and cancer runs strong on both sides of my family.
As for the oleander, if you would do your research you would find that the FDA is now testing it as a cancer cure. It's shown positive results in the first round of testing. I'm getting it from a company, not pulling it out of my backyard.
How one treats their cancer is a very personal decision, and I respect whatever option one makes.That's what people with open and educated minds do. I appreciate your opinion and it's fine if you think I'm crazy, but I'm alive and didn't have to suffer all the nasty side effects of chemo to do it. I believe that putting my life in the hands of a Dr who just goes by the guidelines of the AMA is crazy, that's why I chose not to. But that's just me.
I really appreciate you correcting my spelling, it's not my strong suit. Maybe you should be an editor since you seem to enjoy correcting people.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 11:31:55 PM PDT
742 says:
iirc (and i am absolutely not a doctor) cancer is more a family of diseases than a single disease, and fixing regenerative problems without killing you is hard.

there are however treatments. many many treatments, of varying effectiveness on various different types of cancer in various different stages.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 2, 2012 11:48:15 PM PDT
apriljones says:
I've seen all kinds of "tumor" removals ... They've been debunked.

Oleander extracts -- in carefully controlled doses -- are in the early phases of testing to find out whether they are effective in treating cancer. There have been numerous reports of poisoning and death from ingestion of oleander, oleander leaf tea, and its extracts. It has killed adults, children, pets, and livestock. Even a small amount of oleander can cause death due to its effects on the heart. Inhaling the smoke from burning oleander or eating honey made from its nectar can produce poisonous effects. Since such tiny amounts can cause death, oleander supplements and extracts from any part of the oleander plant should not be used except under the careful observation and controlled conditions of a clinical trial.
The effectiveness of oleander has not been proven. In test tube studies, oleandrin, one of the substances found in oleander extracts, caused apoptosis (a specific type of cell death) of prostate cancer cells. In other test tube studies, Anvirzel appeared to slow the growth of human bladder cancer cells, but human studies are needed to determine whether it will work in people. Very early studies of carefully dosed Anvirzel in people with cancer have not yet shown that it helps. Side effects included nausea and vomiting, aches, and redness at the injection site, but the drug did not appear to affect the cancer in these patients. One very early study of 18 patients with advanced cancer was done primarily to determine the best dose of the drug. No measurable responses were noted in patients' cancer during this small study. Although there are claims that Anvirzel improves quality of life, reduces pain, increases energy, and causes cancer regression and remission, available scientific evidence does not support these claims. From the american cancer society website...
The growth of interest in alternative medicine led to increased use of chaparral in the 1980s. By the early 1990s, there had been many reports of chaparral-linked illnesses, and the FDA issued a warning. This resulted in sellers voluntarily removing many chaparral products from stores. Despite many concerns and warnings, chaparral has become available again, and is advertised and sold from Internet sites.
One case study reported that severe hepatitis developed in a 60-year-old woman who had taken chaparral for 10 months. She eventually required a liver transplant. In a later review of 18 case reports of adverse reactions associated with taking chaparral, researchers concluded that the herb is linked with irreversible liver damage and liver failure. Since these warnings were published, there have been fewer cases of liver damage reported.
And Rife, laughable at best.
Yes, please post a link to your tumor.

Posted on Jun 3, 2012 12:39:02 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 3, 2012 12:40:17 AM PDT
ParrotSlave says:
We have discussed oleander before, including the fact that it is used in some parts of the world as a suicide drug. See, for instance, http://www.amazon.com/forum/health/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1EO24KZG65FCB&cdMsgNo=6778&cdPage=272&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx1TIVQH5MWKS8U&cdMsgID=Mx1H5IASYD8Y8Z#Mx1H5IASYD8Y8Z.

Posted on Jun 3, 2012 6:37:25 AM PDT
@Saffrons Lab - how was your cancer staged? Which type of cancer was it?

@April... and "laetrile" is cyanide... but desperate people will shrug off the fact they're taking a known poison because at least it is natural. Sometimes the irony of this would be laughable if it weren't so dangerous...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 10:09:01 AM PDT
Spellman says:
@Saffrons lab
What a crock

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 3:39:54 PM PDT
apriljones says:
My thoughts exactly. Love when people come into a forum spouting this stuff..They need a separate forum for gullible, naive, ignorant and downright dangerous.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 3:43:45 PM PDT
apriljones says:
Yes, I know what laetrile is, as well as b-17, amygdalin and laevo-mandelonitrile-beta-glucuronoside... all one in the same.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 3:47:17 PM PDT
apriljones says:
I'm not the least bit angry. How can someone be angry at the ones who will die because they actually believe these quack treatments will cure them. Then there's people like you that are outright lying.. Again, please post a link to your tumor removal photos. Would love to be proven wrong.

I promise you, I understand much more about cancer than you could ever dream.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 3, 2012 4:09:06 PM PDT
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There are cures for cancer. However, they are not admitted, promoted, or taught to conventional practitioners because that would threaten the hundreds of billions of dollars in profits that the big pharmaceuticals make every year by selling their conventional crap that does not cure people. Further, ask yourself how much the cancer surgery and cancer radiological industries make. It is a phenomenol amount of money. To make matters worse, the oncology profession is the only one in the U.S.A. that is allowed to buy drugs like chemotherapy at wholesale and then steeply mark them up and resell them to their patients. Many practices get 40% or more of their revenue from that. I am not suggesting that all conventional practitioners are heartless parasites who deliberately kill their patients for money. But there are very clear conflicts of interest at work here. To makje matters worse there are restrictive laws in place in most parts of the developed world that prohibit oncologists from even letting their patients know that there are alternatives to cut, poison, burn.

I hate to keep piling on the bad news, but I must be honest. Most of the non-profits that claim to be in search of the cure, are not. Or at best, they are not being effective at helpiong to find cures. Like many large, well-funded organizations, they may have started out with great intentions, and many of the people still working in these organizations may be honorable and doing the best they can. However, the organizations themselves have become corrupted so that their primary agenda is to perpetuate themselves. And they will, whether consciously or not, sacrafice any and all other agendas to that one of self-perpetuation.

These are sad truths, but the sooner we know of them and are awake to what is going on the sooner we might be able to change things for the better. On the plus side, there are lots of us, keeping a low profile to keep from getting squashed by the Cancer Industrial Complex, who work with people battling cancer and help them to achieve good outcomes and a full return to health. Cures exist today and they work. The challenge is to find the one that is right for the individual and to find a practitioner who knows how to guide a person through it.

I am working on a book that tackles that challenge. If I can figure out how to get it published without getting too badly persecuted by the Cancer Industrial Complex you should see it here on Amazon in the not distant future. It is based on more than 35 years of experience with alternative cancer treatments. My co-author has a similarly long track record of reserach and experience. You can check out his web site now: http://www.helppeoplenow.com/cancer.html. You can also visit mine: www.MyHealthOptimizer.com

To your great health!
Jeff Bell
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