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Initial post: Sep 10, 2011 1:03:15 AM PDT
meremaiden says:
Reading several discussions here I am astounded at the reductive techniques people use to put others down, and I often see it resort to calling someone a "hippie" or a "weirdo liberal". So my question is, what exactly is wrong with being either? How does those in this group generate so much hate towards them?

I often hear my brother call someone a "hippie" as a put-down and I wonder, why the animosity towards hippies? Didn't hippies change the world with love? Didn't they start the battles for equal rights, and women's equality?

What is wrong with being a liberal or a "hippie" and why did it become a put-down?

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 1:14:02 AM PDT
They're judgmental and obnoxious.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 1:44:52 AM PDT
kathrynwitte says:
LOL. It's the right-wingnuts that are judgemental and obnoxious. And greedy!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 2:11:31 AM PDT
meremaiden says:
So judging people for being judgmental? Is there more to it than that?

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 2:57:44 AM PDT
James says:
It became a put down to use the term liberal or hippie when they abandoned their core beliefs.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 4:15:54 AM PDT
We need to fire congress and the tea party

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 8:16:17 AM PDT
E. Thompson says:
I dated one. They smell bad.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 10:16:27 AM PDT
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I am a liberal. probably a hippie since I live in blue jeans, don't judge folks for smoking dope (which I don't btw), I wear deodorant and I shower. I don't partake in organized religion but I do believe in mother earth and try to believe in the inherent goodness of people. **which was the BASIS of the hippie movement** I am in my midfifties. I wear tiedye tshirts. I have a lot of books and fear republicans who wish to remove all monies from helping those in need and give it to those who have no use of it. (like shell oil company paying no taxes...and my retired parents who live on Social security with a combined income of less than $2000/month DO! Yes, I am a liberal. I judge those who can not explain their thoughts except to repeat other peoples thoughts. I form my own opinions and since I live in a country where I have to pick ONE political majority to semi-agree with - I choose the democrats - even tho, for the most part THEY are too far right for me anymore. I am left - far left - of center. esp since the center is now right! I am proudly a liberal hippie. I smell good. I have a high IQ. I use my brain and I think. I respect people who deserve my respect. and the teaparty scares me. I don't call them names and send them "nuts" like some stupid "left wing" groups are doing. I don't believe in it. Both sides irritate me so much, I will vote and work for Obama because he's the best we have running - by a long shot! but I will NOT engage in the left wingers who are acting JUST LIKE THE RIGHT WINGERS! stop it. all of you have to stop it. Stick to the facts and stop inflaming the process. the right is off the charts stupid and the left is trying to follow in their footsteps. can someone just be the voice of reason?

Left and looking for reason. the right is NOT it, and the left is too central these days. I long for commie pinkie liberals to come back! please come back. drag the left back to the left where it needs to be. and wear deodorant so that E. Thompson can date you again.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 12:37:54 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 12:57:59 PM PDT
this diatribe which I've heard and seen somewhere before, makes absolutely no sense to me. Most so called 'liberals' are deep thinking individuals who usually base their ideas on facts gathered by reading something called books. Remember them? We usually don't listen to some blowhard on the radio and the internet tell us how things are or ought to be, but rather gather information for ourselves through a variety of fairly dense material. What I hear from my right leaning friends are rants that come directly from the mouths of their heros like Limbaugh, Hannity, etc who, when the facts are checked, usually turn out to be falsifying information for their own personal gain. Constantly preaching "be afraid, be very afraid" and then offering gold or some kind of annuities which of course they are selling, as the answer. Crazy.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 3:21:36 PM PDT
meremaiden says:
So Theresa-- its a question of emotion over logic in your mind? And lack of personal responsibility? Would you clarify the keeper aspect? Are you talking about welfare, the health system etc?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 3:26:08 PM PDT
meremaiden says:
AmethystWoman Why do you think it is hippies are so hated? To me it seems like you are doing no harm, and THINKING about things.

It's not just about smelling bad, surely :)

And Teresa, the countries that do take care of their people (and aim to have a balance of personal responsibility and caring for their people) are their govts just too liberal?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 3:26:38 PM PDT
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Posted on Sep 10, 2011 5:08:55 PM PDT
Cat Feet says:
There are so many stereotypes here it's unbelievable! The world isn't as black & white as some people paint it to be. Both left & right brained people (analytic & creative) are needed in the world. If only it WERE so easy to pigeonhole people...it isn't. Maybe what's sorely needed is some tolerance & understanding for people who DON'T think & act the way we do, since ALL of the great spiritual disciplines teach this as the way to peace within. "Humanists" (usually Atheists) claim the same thing.
The perfect way to be perpetually irritated is to insist that everybody is the same. It ain't gonna happen! It never has historically, and it won't now or in the future!

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 6:44:54 PM PDT
1Danny says:
Hippies did not change the world with love or start the battle for equal rights.
Basically, they enjoyed drugs and sex.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 7:02:56 PM PDT
meremaiden says:
That's a pretty limited view of what the 1960s and 1970s were about.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 8:33:49 PM PDT
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Ann Danford says:
I will explain this to you in simple terms. When I watch liberals on television or have the displeasure of being around one they are always angry. For them, the world should just take care of them and everyone else. This would be just fine and dandy if it were practical. The basis of this mindset stands on some kind of Marxist fantasy that does not take in account human nature, economic principles or social institutions. When other countries have tried to implement this way of thinking economic and social disaster has followed such as Greece and France. Further, it is our nature to strive for self improvement and to find purpose. When you deprive someone of providing and caring for themselves you take away their instinct to strive for a higher sense of themselves.

Further, liberals seem to be against everything to do with God. Liberals see God as the enemy and they should. They believe that government is the answer. When people look to God, they will not look to the government and it is more difficult to control the people. Get rid of God, people lose hope and will look to the government.

If liberalism is so great then why is my local Walmart litered with people walking around with tatoos, filthy, half naked with cleavage hanging out and unkempt. For a while, I did not get it but I do now. When you do not work ( and the government is paying for your way) or have a purpose in your life you quit caring about yourself and your pride is gone. This is liberalism in practice.

Now, I am not saying that I do not believe that help needs to be their when people need it ( I do)but for these reasons I cannot embrace liberals. It just does not work and I do not want to go around with all that hate and anger in my heart.

Oh, by the way, I am just fine intellectually and have read those things called books. I have a degree in economics and social work.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 8:53:19 PM PDT
meremaiden says:
Ann how is it a Marxist fantasy? I can't speak for the majority of liberals but I imagine most are not anti-capitalism but rather anti-exploitation of people and the earth's resources.
It's funny, I always see conservatives as deeply angry, and liberals, or hippies as frustrated, but not angry.

Do you really think all liberals are anti-religion? Or perhaps it is anti-religious government?
I don't think people that meet the description you set out have anything to do with liberalism but rather cultural fashions changing, mirrored by an MTV culture and lack of self-respect. I think anyone can dress that way, regardless of partisan politics-- they are totally unlinked.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 9:43:57 PM PDT
Labels, labels, labels. We use them to hurt each other. It's much easier to categorize another instead of trying to understand their point of view.

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 10:12:58 PM PDT
Labels are the whole problem, here.

As Ann says, about the "lower class sort" at WallMart (my interpretation, NOT her words) "I did not used to get it, but now I do." I humbly submit that it was your listening to FAUX "News" (propaganda) saying how bad liberals are, that forms the basis of your opinion now.

How do you "know" that those you object to at WallMart ARE in fact EITHER hippies OR liberals? Have you ASKED them? If you haven't, then you are going on the way they look, to figure that they are liberal! Either that OR the fact that they shop there -- but YOU do too, so you also must be a liberal? You are not making sense, so I suggest starting there. THINK about your opinions, rather than just "having" them.

I'd submit that those people are just working stiffs just like you, who simply didn't get dolled up to go shopping! There is nothing like having an attitude to start with, that will make you quicker to judge someone else; and an attitude about (people you think are) liberals is just what you get, from watching FAUX.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 10:28:29 PM PDT
THE PROBLEM WITH HIPPIES IS
HUBRIS
hu·bris (hybrs) also hy·bris (h-)
n.
Overbearing pride or presumption; arrogance:

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 10:58:53 PM PDT
And WHERE did you get this idea, and do you think the commenters on FAUX are especially humble? (I'll call BS on you, if you say you DO think so...)

Posted on Sep 10, 2011 11:01:07 PM PDT
jhp says:
I am a liberal. I am educated, recently retired from a professional practice, married (to original wife) with grown, educated & productive children. I do not wander the aisles of Walmart or anywhere else unkempt and underdressed. I have never smoked pot, done hard drugs, been on welfare nor any of the other nonsense posted here and elsewhere about liberals. Many of my friends and associates are also liberals, and could say basically the same thing as I have here.

These peculiarly ugly attitudes about a very large group of citizens who share a different, but perfectly reasonable, political position seem to be a fairly modern phenomenon, perhaps related to TV watching or listening to certain radio personalities with a financial interest in ratcheting up distrust and hatred among the populace.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 10, 2011 11:07:08 PM PDT
And I think you are absolutely right about that, jhp. I do think they get it from FAUX "News." And I think they agree with what they hear for the very simple reason that FAUX commenters SAY they are the "same" sort of people as the ones listening to them.

So ask yourself, FAUX listeners: Do YOU drive a mercedes to work (or get chaufered in a limo, like Bill O'Reilly?) Do YOU deposit a million or so per year? Why then, I guess you ARE like them after all.

If you don't, then you need to ask yourself why you are agreeing with people who eat your kind for lunch.

Posted on Sep 11, 2011 5:09:00 AM PDT
Treehugger© says:
what would be the opposite of a hippie?

a warmonger?
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