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Lupe Fiasco Around My Way (Freedome Ain't Free)

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Posted on Jun 3, 2012 1:32:21 PM PDT
As far as Lupe doing remakes, I think I'll file this one under "Leave Well Enough Alone"...

Posted on May 28, 2012 2:50:10 PM PDT
A customer says:
Lasers is to The Cool what The Return of Dr. Octagon was to Dr. Octagonecologyst. The lyrics were still there, but the production took an egregious nosedive.

I'm against remakes in any shape, form or fashion.

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 4:56:06 PM PDT
D-Train says:
I totally agree, I didnt even like the cool that much, you saw the path he was taking on that one....Moral of the story the majors will chew you up and spit you out.... Stay true to your own and stay independent atleast you still have creative control over your projects.....

In reply to an earlier post on May 26, 2012 6:41:07 AM PDT
Lupe kinda sold out for this album. And I am very careful when I use that term. Some people throw that out there too much. But Lupe let his label pressure him into making this album sound like that. He even admitted that. I saw small signs of it on The Cool but he blended that sound well with that album and it was not so over the top. But this album production wise was made strictly for kids from the burbs and white girls.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012 9:40:14 PM PDT
Real217 says:
flopped? this album sold more than Food & liquor and its his first billboard #1 album. But that is besides the point.

I have mixed feelings about that term selling out, because i dont know what Lupe is going through, i dont know the choices he has to make.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012 12:53:58 PM PDT
What about that Pete Rock aprroved Peoples The Artist track Never Coming Down, thought most of the TROY fans seem to enjoy.

In reply to an earlier post on May 25, 2012 12:25:10 PM PDT
D-Train says:
Real I can dig that your a fan of music and not a hip hop head but that's what's killing the culture.... The definition of selling out is when you change your style to get on the radio..............He did that and flopped with that garbage album, his lyrics with bad production still makes for a subpar album....

Posted on May 25, 2012 3:24:51 AM PDT
Unspoken says:
its seems lupe went to th epublishing company first to get permission they said no, you'll have to redo it then they went to Pete Rock and he was not cool with it, then they went and made it... have not heard it, not sure i will get around to hearing it... i like lupe,,,i have his first 2 on cd... i listened to lazers once and did not care for it... will check for food and liquor 2 and hope for the best... i think if he got permission from pete rock he should have done it, if he did not get permission he sould not... pete rock sampled this when sampling was legal and made up the very fabric of hiphop..... laws have changed the game... i wish it were back in a time where you could sample anything... would make for much better hiphop records.....though to me... even if legal if i were to sample something i revered and an artist and art form i had mad respect for i would try to reach out to that artist.... if one even had the means to do so... anyway... got off on a tangent.....

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 1:45:23 PM PDT
Top5DOA says:
^^^^^ Agreed.

Posted on May 24, 2012 1:25:52 PM PDT
SRP says:
This song is garbage, the concept is garbage, Lupe TODAY is garbage.

Who cares if the sample is technically someone else's sample. This is a CLASSIC PETE ROCK SONG. This is a CLASSIC HIP HOP SONG. In fact I think if you made a top ten hip hop songs of ALL TIME TROY has to be on that list. You don't remake it. Sure a couple of knuckleheads will do their career a disservice by rapping over it on a mixtape, but you simply can not, will not, and should not try to make the song any better than it is because it is impossible.

Lupe is getting mad at Pete now like the little trick he is. He's being a little trick talking about "you don't have to go through pete rock to clear it?" dude, respect your elders. But this the same kid who flubbed ATCQ lyrics, claimed he didn't peep ATCQ that much, but caters to the same audience ATCQ did.

Song isn't even good either... just some generic semi political garbo...

Posted on May 24, 2012 11:41:24 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 11:43:24 AM PDT
A. Martinez says:
On my nightstand where i sleep i have Illmatic, Food & Liquor, The Cool, Black on Both Sides, Midnight Marauders, 36 Chambers, Labcabincalifornia, Thriller, and a holy bible. Lasers is possibly at Movie Trading Company. Went to best buy at 10am to buy Lasers on its release day, by 10:14am my tuesday was ruined.....

Posted on May 24, 2012 11:22:56 AM PDT
Top5DOA says:
But it is tho Real, it is........................

Posted on May 24, 2012 11:17:10 AM PDT
Real217 says:
Unbelievable, guys i'm not saying this album is a classic or anything, but its not as bad as you guys are making it sound.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 10:40:13 AM PDT
Top5DOA says:
Exactly michael.

Lol ... Its funny how money changes things. Weird how it sold so much despite him knocking the quality. I guess the ppl who bought it chose not to sample the album first or pay him any attention. They're definitely more die-hard than I.

Posted on May 24, 2012 10:14:18 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 12:24:16 PM PDT
michael says:
Lupe himself disparaged the uck out of that album before it came out. He talked about how he had to kowtow to the label just to get it out and how he was disappointed with it. Not until it went #1 when it dropped did he have a change of heart and actually embrace it and push it. Also, being a huge Modest Mouse fan, I hate 'The Show Goes On'. I had been hoping for years someone would sample MM, but that was weak as hell.

Posted on May 24, 2012 9:50:56 AM PDT
Terry Myers says:
Real, this is beyond silly on your part. Chances are most people are Lupe fans based of his work on his first two albums. Why is that so hard to digest? The beats are a departure from his previous two albums. I mean these beats are so syrupy sweet that the album should have a warning for diabetics. Being disappointed by an album that was changed solely for mass consumption and doesn't fall in line with his other two albums doesn't make any of us jaded.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 9:34:52 AM PDT
Top5DOA says:

I deleted it off my library already, so you know its Real, Real.

Why the hell would i listen to LASERS when he has F&L and The Cool still out here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 9:22:07 AM PDT
Like I said Real I like some of the songs on there. But mainly due to the lyrics and subject matter. I tolerate most of the beats but I do not like them. Lupe is such an talented wordsmith I can look pass his production when i'm in the mood to hear that album. But overall its easily his weakest and most disappointing album to date.

In reply to an earlier post on May 24, 2012 9:09:35 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 9:09:45 AM PDT
Real217 says:
How can you say very weak and hate MOST of the corny hooks and beats, yet you listen to the album sometimes? any album i feel that way about will be deleted from my library asap.

Are you guys serious?

"words i never said"
"i dont wana care right now"
"beautiful lasers"

this songs are really that bad to you people? you guys need to start listening to something else. Your problem is you're too jaded to relax and enjoy yourselves, instead you are now relying heavily on people's reviews of what a "real" hiphop album should be. smh. He came with it lyrically, you're telling me those beats are terrible? or if someone is not rapping about slavery they cant rap? sad.

and juice, top5doa my ass.

Posted on May 24, 2012 7:10:04 AM PDT
Sorry Real I cannot co-sign you on this one. I overstand where you are coming from. But Lasers was a very weak and disappointing album. Lyrically it was on point for the most part. But production wise it sucked fat azz crack. Its one thing to rap over more accessible or "commercial" beats when they are dope and seem to fit. Its another thing to rap over those type of beats and they come off unnatural, sell-outish, and corny.

I do listen to the album sometimes. It has some good songs on there. But its mainaly due to the lyrics and concepts. I hate most of the corny hooks and beats.

Posted on May 24, 2012 5:41:15 AM PDT
Top5DOA says:
Real ---> You're garbage. Lol

But yeah, well said A. Martinez.

F&L and the Cool sold albums and were retardedly dope.

As far as the PR sample, #1 PR sampled Tom Scott's "Today" so if anybody should be mad it should be Tom. And Lupe's people went through the appropriate channels for approval of the sample including PR. I think he ended up having a change of heart after the fact (Once he heard the song). So Lupe didn't steal it, his mgmt did everything right, but u know how sentimental and temperamental artists/producers can be.

I didn't care for the song. He's changed and i don't see him ever going back to the artist I first found back in college. By all means make money tho, I just won't be checkin for you.

Posted on May 24, 2012 12:06:38 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 24, 2012 12:24:46 AM PDT
A. Martinez says:
I dont know man, this is coming from somebody who put out modern day classics such as Food & Liquor and The Cool. Though Lasers wasnt the worst album i've ever purchased, it just came off as generic. It sounded like something B.o.B. would have released. Mediocre at best beats, pop hooks provided by Trey Songz & Skylar Grey. It just wasnt the Lupe I jammed constantly and would pay 30 dollars to stand front row at every live show in Dallas to hear Kick Push and Go Go Gadget Flow live. I understand Atlantic had alot to do with it, i read the drama according to wiki, its a money game but im not hatin on the man. FnF Up!

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 10:37:05 PM PDT
Revue says:
I honestly think Lupe should have left it alone. He should have at least asked first. I feel like he basically pulled a Puff Daddy and he should have used a different beat.

Posted on May 23, 2012 10:28:02 PM PDT
Real217 says:
Lasers: Heartache and disappointment?

Man you hiphop heads know how to be divas sometimes, what is wrong with that album? he released an album on a major label with his normal socio-political topics, only he had to do it with commercial beats, (not like the beats are not good). he still managed to be himself somewhat, what more do you want? selling records now is a crime? smh

Initial post: May 23, 2012 9:32:27 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 23, 2012 9:38:22 PM PDT
A. Martinez says:
This week Lupe Fiasco released his new single from the album Food & Liquor II titled Around My Way (Freedom Ain't Free). After the disappointment and heartache from the release of Lasers in 2011, I was actually excited it being the first single from the album "Food & Liquor 2-The Great American Rap Album" I saw it as there's still hope from one of my favorite emcees.

The single is a remake from Pete Rock & CL Smooth's classic, They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.). Im personally not a fan of remaking classics with modern emcees, especially those involving the likes of Pete Rock and especially T.R.O.Y., being possibly the greatest beat of all time. But its actually pretty good, and I think Lupe and his camp put a good spin on it. I can honestly say Lupe Fiasco is back! But lets not jump to conclusions quite yet. After reading a couple of articles online, it turns out that Pete Rock felt violated about the whole remake, claiming it should have been left alone because it was made out of anguish and pain after the loss of a friend. After some tweets back and forth and a phone call, they squashed it. Happy ending i'd say. But what is your opinion of it? Do you think Lupe should have left it alone, or is Lu worthy enough to bring back the classic?...... Link is below
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