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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 11:58:22 AM PDT
bob397103 says:
You need some time off, Boorish. You're scraping bottom. Get some exercise. Get laid. Stop being such a downer.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:00:25 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
>That's your bad karma coming back to you.

No bad karma left here. Not to mention there is no such thing. Karma is neither good nor bad. It's just lessons to learn.

>And if you were any kind of shaman you could travel anywhere in
>your spirit form.

Anybody can do that. Even you do at night crying for release from your tomb.

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Susanna says:
Thanks again bob. A holiday of charity or something.

He's looking to make a meal out of me.

And I see it is time for me log off. The surf is up, and in honor of a long time history poster who used to be anti Israel but recently wrote a moving post about the rampant viciousness of Amazon's antisemites, I'm Going Surfin.'

Edit: I think you actually have to be nice to get laid, but I could be mistaken.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:10:30 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
:) I wasn't slamming you as such, I was pointing out your inconsistency.....or trying to as I recall.

Anyway I'm not really worried about the votes, I just find the hypocrisy funny. And it happens a lot on these boards by certain types.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:15:07 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>Karma is neither good nor bad. It's just lessons to learn.<<

When will you start to learn?

>>Anybody can do that. Even you do at night crying for release from your tomb.<<

But if you could do it you could be enjoying the storm instead of being a downer to everyone.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:28:06 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
>>Karma is neither good nor bad. It's just lessons to learn.<<
>When will you start to learn?

I'm finished in that respect.

>>Anybody can do that. Even you do at night crying for release from your tomb.<<
>But if you could do it you could be enjoying the storm instead of being a
>downer to everyone.

I guess you still don't comprehend english.

And it would be nice if you stopped being such a downer in your dreamtime. Quit crying over your crime.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:34:35 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>I'm finished in that respect.<<

That is clearly untrue. Stop fantasizing.

>>I guess you still don't comprehend english.<<

I comprehend English very well. If you were a shaman worth spit you could travel there and watch the storm. But you can't.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:41:25 PM PDT
Bryan Borich says:
>>I'm finished in that respect.<<
>That is clearly untrue. Stop fantasizing.

I'm not.

>>I guess you still don't comprehend english.<<
>I comprehend English very well. If you were a shaman worth spit you
>could travel there and watch the storm. But you can't.

The joy isn't in watching. Which shows you don't comprehend English.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 12:57:40 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>I'm not.<<

Please...

>>The joy isn't in watching. Which shows you don't comprehend English.<<

Whatever.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 1:03:23 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
Seriously, Boorish, what you're doing is self-destructive.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 1:11:18 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>I can't believe a thing you say.<<

That's how sick you are.

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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 26, 2012 1:19:38 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
You are looking at yourself in your mirror again, it seems.....

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Posted on Oct 28, 2012 4:27:51 PM PDT
30
Illuminati Assassins
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By Dean Henderson for Veterans Today



Illuminati mass mind control is predicated on a numbing steady delivery of 6th-grade level non-news to the masses, combined with the occasional 911/Kennedy Assassination fear-inducing shock, designed to cement obedience and allegiance to their resource monopoly. The elite must constantly manufacture fake bad guys to divert criticism from their hegemonic global banking cartel. Not coincidentally, the bad guys always possess a resource which the bankers covet. Western intelligence agencies serve as spearhead in designing and implementing these psyops. Since oil greases the Illuminati's City of London money shuffle, the Middle East is naturally home to a plethora of "bad guys". (The following is excerpted from Chapter 3: JP Morgan & the House of Saud: Big Oil & Their Bankers...)
In the 1920's a young Egyptian named Hassan Al-Banna revived the Muslim Brotherhood, which had its origins in the same Grand Lodge of Cairo that also spawned Cabala, Freemasonry, Knights Templar and their Illuminati board of directors. Al-Banna was an admirer of Adolf Hitler. During the 1930s his group became a secret arm of Nazi Intelligence. During WWII the Palestine-based Grand Mufti went to Germany as a Muslim Brotherhood representative to recruit an international SS division of Arab Nazis. Based in Croatia, the group was known as the Handzar Muslim Division.
After the war, British Intelligence hired these fugitives and sent them to Egypt with help from the French. There they were sold to the CIA, who used them to infiltrate and attack a burgeoning left-wing Arab nationalist movement led by Egyptian President Gamel Nasser. Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, brought in Soviet advisors and banned the Muslim Brotherhood from Egypt. The leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Sayed Kuttub received payments from Saudi King Faisal to undermine Nasser.
During the 1950s the CIA evacuated Brotherhood leaders to Saudi Arabia, where they opened madrasses that taught a combination of Nazism and Wahhabism. Prominent instructor Dr. Abdullah Azzam taught Osama bin Laden. Fascistic Wahhabism was encouraged by Britain's M-16, Israeli Mossad and the CIA, though it was condemned as heresy by Muslim countries more than sixty times. It is only practiced in Saudi Arabia and by the Afghan Taliban. Brotherhood leader Sayed Kuttub stated that during the 1960s, "America made Islam".
CIA Director Allen Dulles had been a lawyer for Nazi combine I. G. Farben and headed the CIA-predecessor Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during WWII. After the war Dulles was OSS Station Chief in Berne, Switzerland, where he helped Swiss Nazi Francois Genoud transfer Hitler and Goebbel trusts into Swiss bank accounts. In 1952 Dulles founded Banque Commerciale Arabe in Lausanne, Switzerland. The bank represented a pact between the CIA and the Muslim Brotherhood-Benoist-Mechin, which is comprised of Saudi royal family members.
Part of this Faustian bargain involved the House of Saud providing information to US intelligence on how to create mind-controlled assassins. The Muslim Brotherhood claims to have first perfected this technique during the 11th century Crusades when it launched a brutal parallel secret society known as the Assassins, who employed mind-controlled "lone gunmen" to carry out political assassinations of Muslim Saracen nationalists. The Muslim Brotherhood Assassins worked in concert with Knights Templar invaders in their attacks on progressive Arabs.
The same year Allen Dulles- 33rd Degree Freemason, Knight Templar, CFR-founding member and Rockefeller cousin- formed his alliance with the House of Saud, the CIA launched its MK-ULTRA mind control program using LSD produced by the Warburg banking dynasty's Swiss Sandoz Laboratories. Dulles' OSS assistant in Berne was James Warburg. With Sydney Gottleib at the wheel, MK-ULTRA sought to create a "Manchurian candidate", a mind-controlled assassin to be utilized for CIA black operations. The city of Lausanne, where Dulles cut his deal, also housed a group known as Nazi International, led by Nazi intelligence officer Otto Skorzeny.
The Assassins took their name from the Arabic word hashshasin, meaning "hashish smoker". Another Arabic word, assasseen, translates "guardians of the secrets". The group was founded in 1094 by Hasan bin Sabah, who shares his surname with the crooked ruling family of Kuwait who themselves descend from the Hashemite clan. Hasan was schooled in the secrets of the Hebrew Cabala and studied at the Grand Lodge of Cairo, which also spawned the Afghan Illuminated Ones- the Roshaniya- who terrorized that country under the leadership of Bayezid Ansari in the 16th century.
The Assassins emerged from the Ismaili Muslim sect, which claims descendence from the Hebrew patriarch Abraham and his surrogate wife Hagar. The Ismailis formed "societies of wisdom" which morphed into the Grand Lodge of Cairo. The Druses that came to run the lodge claimed to be both Christians and Muslims and their protocol mirrored that of Grand Orient Freemasonry. The Cairo Lodge turned out the fanatics who aided the Knights Templar in their Crusade battles against Saracen Muslim nationalists.
bin Sabah, who called himself the Grand Master, formed his own Ismaili sect known as the Assassins. The group embraced the dogma that the end justifies the means, a belief they shared with their Masonic brethren and a trademark of modern-day religious and neo-Darwinian fundamentalists worldwide.
Masonic historian Albert Mackey states of the Assassins, "...connections to the (Knights) Templars, as historically proved, may have had some influence over that Order in molding, or at least in suggesting, some of its esoteric dogmas and ceremonies...The Templars entered at various times into amicable arrangements and treaty stipulations with the Assassins."
According to Marco Polo, bin Sabah took over a valley where he built palaces surrounded by lush gardens and frequented by beautiful women. Young visitors would be lured in and drugged, believing they had found paradise. bin Sabah would then promise them a return to paradise if they would carry out political assassinations for him. bin Sabah's promise is held out to this day to thousands of young Islamist suicide martyrs, whose missions are bankrolled by the House of Saud.
Islamic fundamentalism began its modern day meteoric rise in British administered India and found a permanent home in Pakistan. That country came into being in 1947 in a British attempt to divide Muslims from their Hindu Indian counterparts. Pakistani Islamism was carried forth by Mawdudi and a succession of military juntas backed by the Illuminati. Its spiritual epicenter is the Karachi-based Agha Khan Foundation- a subsidiary of the House of Windsor's Crown Agency tentacle.
The majority of Western Arab allies embrace Islamic fundamentalism, which is quite congruent with global monopoly capitalism, since both are based on a return to rule by feudalistic monarchy. Most of the West's Arab enemies embrace secular socialism, which aims to stop the exploitation of oil resources by the Four Horsemen and their Eight Families international banker owners. The great Arab leaders including the Egyptian Nasser, the Algerian Boumedienne, the Libyan Qaddafi, the Syrian Assad and the Iraqi al-Bakr all support(ed) a secular socialism (though Qaddafi to be precise is an anarcho-syndicalist), which poses a very real threat to the Illuminati elite.
Within years of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, CIA and MI6 were passing targeting information to the Ayatollah aimed at Iranian leftist groups like the Tudeh Party, the National Front and the People's Mujahadeen. These nationalist parties had backed 1954 CIA/BP coup victim Mohammed Mossadegh and later spearheaded the Iranian Revolution through their Committee of 60 oilfield strikes in Khuzistan Province.
The mullahs cut oil for arms deals with Israel and unleashed a reign of terror, assassinating over 4,000 Tudeh Party leaders, while torturing and imprisoning 10,000 more. In 1989 many of those imprisoned were sentenced to death. Khomeini then banned the parties terming them "Marxist satanic elements", something even the Shah hadn't done. The US was using Islamic extremists to exterminate the Iranian left. They had done the exact same thing when they installed Saddam Hussein in Iraq to terrorize the Iraqi Communist Party.
In 1978 the Mossad allowed the fundamentalist Hamas to become the only Palestinian group registered in Israel. The Israelis found the Islamist Hamas a convenient bludgeon to deploy against Yasser Arafat- whose Palestinian Authority had emerged from Fatah and the PLO, both of which put forth a secular left of center political agenda based on Arab unity and nationalism.
Hamas regularly receives funds from the Saudis without intervention by the Israelis, while money bound for the PLO is routinely seized by Israeli authorities. After the Gulf War the House of Saud cut funding to the PLO to punish Arafat for his opposition to the US bombing of Iraq, while the Saudis continued to fund Hamas.
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Its suicide bombers are modern-day Assassins, whose actions serve as a pretext for further Israeli aggression against Palestinians. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon played a critical role in the founding of Hamas in 1988, when his Likud Party doled out 800 licenses to Islamists in the occupied Palestinian territories of Gaza and the West Bank.
Sharon- the Butcher of Shatila- served as ideological guru of both the Gush Emunim and Kach Movement/JDL Jewish underground right-wing terror networks during his 1977-1992 tenure in Israeli Likud governments. He was central to the Landscam gang, which made millions recruiting Jews from Manhattan and Moscow to buy homes built on illegal settlements on Palestinian lands during the 1980's and 1990's.
Sharon's Landscam partners included Rupert Murdoch, Sir David Ormsby-Gore, Prince Johannes von Thurn and Taxis, Sir Edmund Peck and World Jewish Congress President Edgar Bronfmann- owner of Conoco Phillips. Also attending the initial 1982 planning sessions for this land grab at Sharon's Negev ranch were Henry Kissinger, M-16 Middle East specialist Nicholas Elliot and Permindex Kennedy Assassination paymaster Louis Mortimer Bloomfield.
According to former Mossad case officer Victor Ostravsky, Mossad armed the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood with mujahadeen arms from Afghanistan in 1986 and gave the Islamic Jihad terrorists a target list. That same year, Mossad armed Islamists in Jordan to destabilize that nation as part of their "Jordan is Palestine" plan to push all Palestinians into Jordan, while seizing the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
In October 1991, angered at the Bush Administration's willingness to mediate peace talks in Madrid between Israel and the Palestinians, Ostravsky says Mossad used three Hamas extremists in an attempt to assassinate Bush in Madrid. When their plan failed these Palestinians, like many before them, were shipped off to Nes Ziyyona- an Israeli nuclear, biological and chemical weapons testing facility where experiments are routinely conducted on Palestinian militants. A similar Mossad facility exists, disguised as a hospital, in Soweto, South Africa, where poor blacks are subject to experimentation.
The US uses Islamic extremists to achieve its geopolitical goals on a regular basis. In 1982 the socialist government in Syria put down a revolt led by Islamic militants. One of the revolt's leaders was Abdallah Azzam, who later supervised the CIA training of mujahadeen in Peshawar, Pakistan. Shiek Hassan Turabi, leader of the Sudanese military government, is backed by the leader of that country's Muslim Brotherhood offshoot known as the Islamic National Front. Until the media began reporting that Osama bin Laden was using Sudan as his mid-1990's al Qaeda base, the US had close ties to the Sudanese fanatics. Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the cleric who the CIA brought to the US to recruit Islamic fighters for its dismemberment of Yugoslavia, got his visa at the US consulate in Khartoum.
In the US, the Muslim Brotherhood coalesces around Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam. On February 21, 1965 Nation of Islam operatives gunned down Malcolm X, who had fallen out with the Islamists after a journey to Mecca altered his worldview. Prior to the trip, Malcolm X spoke in the divisive manner of Farrakhan, preaching black power against the "white devils". Upon his return he ditched his racial analysis and focused on class, reaching out, as Dr. Martin Luther King had begun to do when he was assassinated, to labor unions and impoverished whites.
John Mohamed, the sniper who claimed thirteen victims in the Washington, DC area in October 2002, was a recent convert to the Nation of Islam, whose donors have included Texas billionaire H. L. Hunt. Hunt met with Jack Ruby the day before the JFK hit, then disappeared to Mexico for a month. Louis Farrakhan came up missing in similar fashion after the Malcolm X hit.
Nation of Islam leader Elijah Muhammad was a self-proclaimed messenger of Nation of Islam founder Master Fard. Fard instructed Muhammad to study the origins of Islam, Freemasonry and the Cabala. Fard mimics the Knights Templar propaganda that Jesus never died on the cross. While the Priory of Sion version states that Jesus went to France and started the sangreal Merovingan bloodline, Fard claims Jesus landed in Pakistan, global epicenter of Islamism where spiritual god/king of the Muslim Brotherhood Agha Khan resided. It also happens to be the place where modern-day Assassin, M-16 asset and favorite Illuminati bad guy Osama bin Laden was "hiding".
Dean Henderson is the author of four books: Big Oil & Their Bankers in the Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network, The Grateful Unrich: Revolution in 50 Countries, Das Kartell der Federal Reserve & Stickin' it to the Matrix. You can subscribe free to his weekly Left Hook column @ www.deanhenderson.wordpress.com

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/28/must-read-illuminati-assassins/

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2012 6:21:16 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
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Posted on Oct 28, 2012 6:39:57 PM PDT
L. King says:
Illuminati? I guess if Veternarians Today publishes it, Dickerson will repost it, no matter how silly it is.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2012 6:43:03 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
VT also published a story on how the US and Chinese navies worked together when there were hostile underwater UFO's off the California coast.

Posted on Oct 28, 2012 6:44:13 PM PDT
L. King says:
The following article was written by Youssif Ibrahim, a journalist for the New York Times, in 2006. It should have appeared in the Arabic press. Barry Rubin republished it. It's well worth reading, but first Rubin's commentary:

" Friendly, funny, sarcastic, and with absolutely no illusions or romanticism about the absurdities of Arab politics and the idiocies of Arab political ideology, Ibrahim's only shortcoming is that there are not one thousand more exactly like him. If he was the kind of person leading Arab countries and people they would be far more prosperous, peaceful, happier and democratic.

But, alas, the Ibrahims are the rarity, men given too little honor in their own old societies and far too little in the West. The genuine moderates accept no excuses but comprehend precisely why the West has succeeded and the Middle East has not. Often seen as sell-outs, they are the most noble and courageous of people, far more concerned about their own people's welfare than are the dictators, demagogues, and bloodthirsty academics.

These thoughts are prompted by an article he once wrote, presented below. I include the text because I want you to read every word. It is all completely sensible. Many will find it encouraging. It makes me want to cry.

Why?

First, because it all could have been written 10 or 20 or 30 years ago, indeed it is pretty much what he told me as we circled endlessly around the convention center way out on an isolated Algerian beach (there's Arafat, surrounded by his coterie; there's that moronic American Jewish Peace Now guy who is explaining to the PLO gunmen thugs why they really really want to make peace with Israel but just don't know it; here come the sycophantic journalists...)

And it was published in 2006 and in six years and a half years there has been no advance on one single word of its text. Of course, the spread of revolutionary Islamism has revived the unwillingness to listen to Ibrahim, though the fate of Syria--the one Arab country he said still took the conflict seriously--should give pause to radical regimes who think this gambit solves all of their problems.

Second, because nobody in the Arab world listens to Ibrahim or to brilliant scholars like Fouad Ajami, which is their tragedy for preferring the demagogues.

Third, because it was published-of course-not in an Arabic publication (who would dare?) but in an American Jewish one, a group that includes all too many who think the fault is on their own side and don't get what Youssef is saying.

Fourth, because if I were to have written these truths I would have been denounced with a hundred different insults.

Fifth, because if anything things are worse today than back then. (Can you imagine this essay of his being presented and discussed in a university course on the Middle East?)

And sixth because it's now 2012 and we still have to be saying things like this! No, it's worse: in 2012 the Middle East is starting a whole new round of the old madness. The Islamists tell the masses that the only reason their predecessors didn't win total victory is that they failed to hit their head against the stone wall long and hard enough!

http://rubinreports.blogspot.ca/2012/10/the-wests-deaf-ears-for-real-arab.html

Posted on Oct 28, 2012 6:46:36 PM PDT
L. King says:
And now Youssif Ibrahim:

To my Arab brothers: The War with Israel Is Over - and they won. Now let's finally move forward.

By Youssef M. Ibrahim

Jewish World Review, July 12, 2006

Dear Palestinian Arab brethren:

The war with Israel is over.

You have lost. Surrender and negotiate to secure a future for your children.

We, your Arab brothers, may say until we are blue in the face that we stand by you, but the wise among you and most of us know that we are moving on, away from the tired old idea of the Palestinian Arab cause and the "eternal struggle" with Israel.
Dear friends, you and your leaders have wasted three generations trying to fight for Palestine, but the truth is the Palestine you could have had in 1948 is much bigger than the one you could have had in 1967, which in turn is much bigger than what you may have to settle for now or in another 10 years. Struggle means less land and more misery and utter loneliness.

At the moment, brothers, you would be lucky to secure a semblance of a state in that Gaza Strip into which you have all crowded, and a small part of the West Bank of the Jordan. It isn't going to get better. Time is running out even for this much land, so here are some facts, figures, and sound advice, friends.

You hold keys, which you drag out for television interviews, to houses that do not exist or are inhabited by Israelis who have no intention of leaving Jaffa, Haifa, Tel Aviv, or West Jerusalem.

You shoot old guns at modern Israeli tanks and American-made fighter jets, doing virtually no harm to Israel while bringing the wrath of its mighty army down upon you.

You fire ridiculously inept Kassam rockets that cause little destruction and delude yourselves into thinking this is a war of liberation. Your government, your social institutions, your schools, and your economy are all in ruins.

Your young people are growing up illiterate, ill, and bent on rites of death and suicide, while you, in effect, are living on the kindness of foreigners, including America and the United Nations.

Every day your officials must beg for your daily bread, dependent on relief trucks that carry food and medicine into the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, while your criminal Muslim fundamentalist Hamas government continues to fan the flames of a war it can neither fight nor hope to win.

In other words, brothers, you are down, out, and alone in a burnt-out landscape that is shrinking by the day.

What kind of struggle is this? Is it worth waging at all? More important, what kind of miserable future does it portend for your children, the fourth or fifth generation of the Arab world's have-nots?

We, your Arab brothers, have moved on.

Those of us who have oil money are busy accumulating wealth and building housing, luxury developments, state-of-the-art universities and schools, and new highways and byways. Those of us who share borders with Israel, such as Egypt and Jordan, have signed a peace treaty with it and are not going to war for you any time soon.

Those of us who are far away, in places like North Africa and Iraq, frankly could not care less about what happens to you.
Only Syria continues to feed your fantasies that someday it will join you in liberating Palestine , even though a huge chunk of its territory, the entire Golan Heights, was taken by Israel in 1967 and annexed. The Syrians, my friends, will gladly fight down to the last Palestinian Arab.

Before you got stuck with this Hamas crowd, another cheating, conniving, leader of yours, Yasser Arafat, sold you a rotten bill of goods - more pain, greater corruption, and millions stolen by his relatives - while your children played in the sewers of Gaza .

The war is over. Why not let a new future begin?

http://rubinreports.blogspot.ca/2012/10/the-wests-deaf-ears-for-real-arab.html
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