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optimum strategy for peace - consider hamas vs isreal


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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 8:00:57 PM PST
B. A. Dilger says:
DarthRad----Great analysis except for #9:

"9. No media blackout or blockade on Gaza - Foreign reporters are being allowed into Gaza, as opposed to Cast Lead when the Erez crossing was closed to the international media. Food supplies are also going through the crossings from Israel and Egypt and so far there are no reports of acute shortages in the Strip. The presence of journalists, reporting freely from Gaza, serves both sides. Picture of civilian casualties and the destruction of buildings promote sympathy for the Palestinians; but this time around, it is not being described as a humanitarian crisis and there is less pressure on Israel to end the operation."

Yesterday, Israeli missiles took out two tall buildings housing pro-Hamas TV stations from them and Lebanon. There were several EU and al-Jezeera offices also in the buildings and a number of journalists were injured, one losing a leg. It's definitely a denial of journalistic coverage plan as journalists are being targeted. Here's a link:

http://news.sky.com/story/1013081/gaza-israel-denies-strikes-targeted-media

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 8:23:47 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 8:37:11 PM PST
Darth,
Most reasonable people would give up on peace after the other side violated agreement after agreement after agreement. The simple fact is that the Palastinians don't want peace. They want the Israelis gone and that is all they are willing to accept. The Israelis have made concession after concession in the name of peace, and the Palastinians just reneged and gone back to constant rocket attacks. Would we accept ten or twelve rockets a day launched from Tijuana into San Diego, let alone the 750 launched last week? The Israelis were right and justified in killing as many of Hamas's leaders as they could. Perhaps if they kill enough of them they will find one realistic enough to negotiate a real, lasting peace.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 8:45:55 PM PST
That's a fantasy. The first thing the Arabs did when the UN granted Israel nationality was to launch an overwhelming attack to destroy Israel and kill all the jews. They were attacked from all sides but the attack failed. Ever since, every time the Arabs think they have built up enough superiority in numbers, they attack again. The only thing that has fended off attacks over the last few decades is the US paying bribes to Egypt, Syria and Jordan, plus the Israelis nuclear arsenal which they have pledged to use in the event they lose the next war.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 8:55:45 PM PST
When Hamas locates it's missile launchers in civilian areas it is responsible for the civilian casualties, not Israel. Hamas launches it's inaccurate unguided rockets at Israeli CIVILIAN targets deliberately and when Israel counterattacks the launch site and a few civilians (who by the way allowed Hamas to locate those launchers right next to their homes) are killed, you call the Israelis murderers? You sir are a gullible fool.

Posted on Nov 18, 2012 9:06:26 PM PST
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Posted on Nov 18, 2012 9:19:51 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:20:26 PM PST
what does that have to do with the topic of this thread

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:22:06 PM PST
i would tell the civilians to get rid of the terrorists
because if they are near you we will take you out with them

if they set up near you then you better move
cause we are going to take them out and everything within a mile of where they shot that missle from

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:23:09 PM PST
if i were being attacked
i would take all of them out
along with anyone helping them
and dont pay no nevermind to 'innocent' people near by

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:24:03 PM PST
and isreal will be actually justified in taking them out plus anyone near them and anyone helping tehm

hamas attacked first

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:25:13 PM PST
"When Hamas locates it's missile launchers in civilian areas it is responsible for the civilian casualties, not Israel."

Not Israel, who actually kills the people.

And you too are ignoring the intentional bombing of houses, and the TV station, and other civilian targets.

This is all very dishonest.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:25:16 PM PST
if hamas doesnt want casualties
all they have to do is stop shooting off missles

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:25:44 PM PST
he was a propaganda person helping hamas
tough luck

Posted on Nov 18, 2012 9:33:17 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:38:39 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 9:40:54 PM PST
you are so confused

isreal assasinated nobody until they caused damage to isreal and its citizens first

and if you are the honcho of the car bomb perp
you are guilty and get whacked too

just like usa took out bin laden
and continues to take out the leaders of the group fomenting terror

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:10:13 PM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:13:37 PM PST
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DarthRad says:
Yep,

And here's why Israel's strategy of "mowing the grass" is likely to be a Sisyphean chore:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/19/world/middleeast/brigades-that-fire-on-israel-show-a-deadly-new-discipline.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Note at the end how the father who is sad about his son thinking of joining the Qassam brigade of Hamas has SIX CHILDREN.

Kill one Hamas leader, more spring up. And in the meantime, the Arab birthrate remains sky high and they outbreed the Jews in Eretz Israel.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:13:37 PM PST
if your neighbor was shooting bullets through your house
you would be taking your rifle and stopping him

you know you would

hypocrite !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:16:57 PM PST
The Beast of Revelation says:
Note too that Israel has in fact deliberately bombed civilians' houses,

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More nonsense from the ignorant.

Hamas doesn't have a formal military. everyone is a civilian.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:20:00 PM PST
DarthRad says:
Neither side is interested in peace.
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bull crap.

Israelis want peace, the Palestinians want israel.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:21:20 PM PST
andthehorseirodeinontoo? says:
i would tell the civilians to get rid of the terrorists
because if they are near you we will take you out with them
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get rid of them? they support them.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 18, 2012 10:22:06 PM PST
if they do then they get bombed too
but warn them in case some of them dont support the missles
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