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In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:04:59 AM PDT
L. King says:
Hi Diva -

Rachel made a mistake in claiming that the racist xenophobic Islamic cleric, Haj Amin al Husseini had been indicted at Nuremberg. You know, the Imam who broadcast hate and propaganda from the Arab world urging all Arabs to kill all Jews one a long line such hate mongering clerics -but one notable for being the father of modern day Palestinian nationalism.

The truth is that Yugoslavia wanted to indict him for war crimes, and justly so, but France gave him shelter and allowed him to escape. The British sent a letter to Egypt asking for his extradition but various Arab diplomats suggested that oil was more important than justice. Such is the way of the world.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:06:25 AM PDT
Diva says:
Diva was never banned by Amazon. If you claim otherwise, prove it.

To the best of my knowledge, Rachel never claimed the Mufti was "convicted" in Nuremberg. Obviously you don't have a clue to the difference between "indicted" and "convicted". Or you are trying to pull off a quick one, Jezeera style.

Now go back and take your first grade English classes and come back when you are finished.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:08:01 AM PDT
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Diva says:
Hi L. King,

Yes, I am aware of that.

I was only explaining this dimwit the difference which she tried to pin on Rachel.

By the way, wasn't he indicted in absentia in Yugoslavia??

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:37:38 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 9, 2012 11:03:00 AM PDT
L. King says:
The water level of the Kinneret continues to rise, but as one can see by the curve it is definitely leveling off for the year. The current level is -211.315 meters below sea level.

http://www.savethekinneret.com/

An interesting comparison would be Lake Assad in Syria, an artificial lake based on a megaproject financed by the Soviets. A 1990 report indicates that Turkey had diverted the water source of the Euphrates causing the lake to draw down considerably.

"The Ataturk Dam has the potential to hold two years' flow of the Euphrates," said a Western diplomat. "I'd be bloody nervous living downstream."

The Turks have pledged to resume the flow at previous levels on Feb. 13, but even that rate has fallen short of Syrian needs. The water level in Lake Assad, the big Syrian dam on the Euphrates, is so low that only one of its eight hydropower turbines is working, according to published reports."

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-14/news/mn-290_1_middle-east

I wonder how it is doing today? No doubt the water level of the lake has risen due to all the dead bodies:

Forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad on Saturday killed at least 60 people across the country, including 47 soldiers who attempted defection in a military airbase in Idlib, the Syrian Network for Human Rights reported.

The bodies of the soldiers were then dumped in al-Seeha lake near Idlib by Assad loyalist forces, a local coordination committee from Idlib reported.

Elsewhere in the country, Assad's forces bombarded parts of the shattered city of Homs anew and blocked the first Red Cross aid meant for civilians stranded for weeks without food and fuel in the former rebel stronghold, activists and aid workers said.

"In an act of pure revenge, Assad's army has been firing mortar rounds and ... machine guns since this morning at Jobar," the Syrian Network for Human Rights reported, naming a neighborhood adjacent to Baba Amro, from which Free Syrian Army rebels pulled out this week after almost a month of siege and shelling."

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/03/198371.html

Will they rename Lake Assad, Lake of the Murderous Tyrant? Lake Muhummad perhaps?

Additional note: Idlib is pretty far from Lake Assad and does not appear to be part of the same river system. On the other hand, the number of killed in Syria is close to 10,000 at this point - not quite up to Assad Sr.'s level, but still up there. Like father, like son.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:59:47 AM PDT
L. King says:
Yes and no. He was on a list of wanted war criminals given to the British. Then his name was removed from the list. One of the books on my wish list is one by The Mufti of Jerusalem: Haj-Amin el-Husseini and National-Socialism by Jennie Lebel. The following is from a review of that book:

"Her most valuable contribution regards Serbian- and Macedonian-related history.[2] Among the reprinted papers included in the book she displays, for example, the first page of the official Yugoslav file on "Crimes of the German Occupants and their Helpers" of 10 July 1945. Amin al-Husaini, who had been in French hands since May 1945, was therewith added to a list of war criminals because he engaged in recruiting for Muslim SS divisions in the occupied area. Legally, he was neither a French nor a British subject, so there would have been an opportunity to deliver him directly to the Nuremberg court which started four months later. The grand mufti wrote in his memoirs that he was aware of a potential extradition, though the French, as well as Arabs and other Muslims, wanted to protect him. "

http://rslissak.com/content/mufti-jeruslemhaj-amin-el-husseini-and-national-socialism-jennie-lebel-review-wolfgang-gschw
So yes, he was added to a list of wanted war criminals. Whether that constitutes a legal indictment or not I'm not sure.

The review then mentions that Tito removed the Mufti's name from the list in 1946, but the reasons are unstated, but possibly because he was beyond the jurisdiction of the war crimes tribunal:

"According to the author, the Yugoslav leader, Tito, decided to remove the mufti's name from the list of war criminals. She adds a secret communication from the Yugoslav Embassy in Paris to the French Foreign Ministry sent in April 1946. The text explains some disputes about the mufti: France refused a possible extradition because it did not wish to alienate Muslims in her colonies. Besides this, an Anglo-French extradition agreement applied only to common criminals, not war criminals. London likewise did not present the case to the UN Commission for War Crimes. Thus, in May 1946 the mufti "escaped" from Paris to Cairo, resuming his Islamic and Palestinian roles. Jennie Lebel thus provides the reader with fresh insights. "

So we do have a possible indictment from Yugoslavia that was forwarded, possibly to the process at Nuremberg, but subsequently withdraw, with political pressure from the Arabs to do so.

"The mufti was not ready to do anything gratis (138, 146). However, Lebel shows the restless nationalist and pan-Islamic efforts to which he dedicated the whole of his long life. That he managed to get money from so many sources indicates his determination. There is some confusion in the book about his projects. The files show us how much he, and about two dozen others, including Arab leaders like Rashid Ali al-Kailani, Shakib Arslan, Mansur Daud, Kamil Mruwa, and Sharif Sharaf, received monthly during the Nazi era: the mufti 50,000 Reichsmarks plus 25,000 in foreign currency; the Iraqi 75,000 Reichsmarks plus 25,000 in foreign currency out of the foreign minister's fund, financed by looted Jewish money. Al-Husaini and al-Kailani condoned Nazi Germany's horrific racist extermination policy. Following the mufti's example, many moved to the totalitarian and anti-democratic side of history. Thus, he repeatedly did his people a great disservice. Following generations still have a very long journey ahead of them before they can overcome his stark and deadly legacy. Lebel's book is of utmost importance for the major debate which must still take place in the Middle East concerning the mufti and his unfortunate policy with regard to the Holocaust."

So it is not just the Mufti's record that needs to be examined. Kailani I knew about before. Shakib Arslan, Mansur Daud, Kamil Mruwa, and Sharif Sharaf I don't think I have.

Posted on May 9, 2012 12:41:16 PM PDT
William B says:
After the war, and after Yugoslavia attempted to indict him as a war criminal for crimes against humanity, al-Husseini fled to Cairo, where he remained as a guest of Egypt's King Farouk and one of his many protégés, General Gamel Abdel Nasser. Al-Husseini was received with fanfare in Cairo, where he remained headquartered for the rest of his infamous career. From Cairo, he devoted his considerable energy toward the destruction of the State of Israel, the poisoning of any vestiges of peace between Israel and the Arab states, and the destruction of the remaining Jewish communities in the Arab world. He would help Nazi war criminals settle in the Arab world through what is known as Operation Odessa. He would further encourage his followers to seize power in Arab capitals and to establish National Socialist-style governments.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism. Introduction Kindle Edition.

Curiously, the French were careful to insure that al-Husseini was taken care of during his internment in a private French chateau, where he was provided luxuries such as a Tunisian cook. Al-Husseini would not stay in Paris long, as he was made aware of written testimony being given to the Nuremberg investigators by Adolf Eichmann's assistant, Hermann Krumey, regarding his participation in the extermination of the Hungarian Jews. Rumors were also circulating at the time concerning an impending indictment of al-Husseini from Yugoslavia for crimes against humanity for his role in the Hanzar genocide against the Serbs. After securing an invitation to settle in Egypt from King Farouk, al-Husseini fled Paris on May 29, 1945, one step ahead of a likely indictment as a war criminal at Nuremberg. Hence, the true role of al-Husseini regarding his involvement in these heinous crimes would never be investigated, he would remain for the rest of his life beyond the reach of justice, and most of the evidence against him shall most likely remain lost in the mists of history.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism (p. 61). Kindle Edition.

In late 1944, in the last monstrous months of Hitler's war, al-Husseini attempted a final desperate move to trigger a pro-Nazi Arab rebellion and to kill the Jews of Palestine. Al-Husseini arranged for a Nazi-Arab commando unit to parachute into Palestine with the goal of poisoning the water wells of Tel Aviv.1 Amazingly the British, after all that transpired, would grant al-Husseini a full amnesty after the war in spite of their full knowledge of his record of Nazi collaboration. This shameful and inexplicable act of appeasement constituted yet another move by a Western power to appease and therefore enthrone Islamic extremism and terror. After having been allowed to escape from house arrest in Paris, al-Husseini arrived in Cairo. He arrived one step ahead of Yugoslavia, which sought to indict him in absentia for crimes against humanity for his involvement in the genocide performed by the Hanzars against the Bosnian Serbs. In spite of his record, maybe possibly because of it, al-Husseini was granted full protection and royal treatment in Egypt and he was greeted upon his arrival by throngs who welcomed him as a hero.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism (p. 84). Kindle Edition.

After meeting with Hitler on November 21, 1941, al-Husseini praised the Nazis because they "know how to get rid of the Jews, and that brings us close to the Germans and sets us in their camp." On March 1, 1944, the mufti called out in a broadcast from Zeesen: "Arabs! Rise as one and fight for your sacred rights. Kill the Jews wherever you find them. Kill them with your teeth if need be. This pleases God, history, and religion. This saves your honor." His goal was, with the help of the Nazis, "to solve the question of the Jewish elements in Palestine and in other Arab countries as required by national interests, and in the same way as the Jewish question in the Axis lands is being solved." His own memoirs, and the testimony of German defendants at the Nuremberg trials, later showed that he planned a death camp modeled on Auschwitz to be constructed near Nablus for the genocide of British Mandatory Palestine's Jews.' The foremost Muslim spiritual leader of his time did all he could to ensure that the Germans focused their energies and resources on the "Final Solution." And he helped in his own way by lobbying to prevent Jews from leaving Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria, even though the governments of these countries were initially willing to let them go. Eichmann himself recounted: "We have promised him [the mufti] that no European Jew would enter Palestine any more."' But Germany's defeat in North Africa meant that the Einsatzgruppen, which had murdered more than one million of the six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust, never took its ghastly show to Palestine. Al-Husseini's boundless ambitions against both Palestinian and world Jewry were halted-he believed only temporarily-by the German surrender on May 8, 1945. The mufti suddenly found himself a prisoner of war in France, and condemned as a war criminal by the Nuremberg prosecutors. To harm American and especially British interests, the French allowed him to escape. He fled first to Egypt and later to Syria. From Damascus, Haj Amin al-Husseini reestablished himself as the foremost spokesman for the Arabs of Palestine.

David Meir-Levi. History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Aggression (Kindle Locations 154-161). Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 12:43:52 PM PDT
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William B says:
Haj Amin al-Husseini's Nazi ambitions, even though they were now seen against the backdrop of the Holocaust that he had helped in his small way to engineer, continued to be a source of pride for his Arab supporters after his death in 1974. And he found admirers elsewhere too in the decades ahead. Professor Edward Said praised al-Husseini, former partner with the Nazis in their crimes against humanity, as "the voice of the Palestinian people." Yassir Arafat, a distant cousin of al-Husseini, referred to him as "our hero."

David Meir-Levi. History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Aggression (Kindle Locations 170-173). Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 12:47:29 PM PDT
William B says:
Eichmann's lieutenant, Dieter Wisliceny, at his own trial for war crimes after World War II, agreed that the following was a proper description of Haj Amin al-Husseini: "The Mufti is a sworn enemy of the Jews and has always fought for the idea of annihilating the Jews. He sticks to this idea always, also in his talks with [Adolf] Eichmann... The Mufti is one of the originators of the systematic destruction of European Jewry by the Germans, and he has become a permanent colleague, partner and adviser to Eichmann ... in the implementation of this programme." See Transcript of the Trial of Adolf Eichmann, Session 5o, published by The Nizkor Project, www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/ transcripts/Sessions/Session-o5o-07.html.

David Meir-Levi. History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Aggression (Kindle Locations 984-988). Kindle Edition.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 1:01:14 PM PDT
Diva says:
"Yassir Arafat, a distant cousin of al-Husseini, referred to him as "our hero."

It is a well known fact that Arab "heroism" is measured strictly by Jews body count the "hero" can add to his credit.

Posted on May 9, 2012 1:14:39 PM PDT
William B says:
At the end of 1942, Dieter Wisliceny, the German "Jewish affairs adviser" to the Slovakian government, negotiated with the representatives of the Joint Distribution Committee in Bratislava regarding the possibility of allowing Jewish children from Slovakia, Poland, and Hungary to emigrate to Palestine. An exchange for German civilian internees, under the mediation of the Red Cross, was planned. "I was called to Berlin by Eichmann, who disclosed to me that the Grand Mufti had found out about the planned action through his intelligence service in Palestine," explained Wisliceny in 1946. "He protested vigorously to Himmler on the grounds that these Jewish children would be adults in a few years and would represent a strengthening of the Jewish element in Palestine. Himmler then vetoed the entire action and issued a prohibition for future cases as well, stating that no Jew would be allowed to leave the German-controlled territories for Palestine." Endre Steiner, who had negotiated with Wisliceny on the Jewish side, confirmed this state of affairs that same year: "He [Wisliceny] declared that the Mufti was in very close communication and collaboration with Eichmann, and therefore-in order not to be denounced by the Mufti-German officials could not accept Palestine as a final destination." The Mufti was, according to Wisliceny, "an implacable archenemy of the Jews and had also always been a proponent of the idea of exterminating the Jews."

Mallmann, Klaus-Michael; Cuppers, Martin; Krista Smith (2010-06-23). Nazi Palestine: The Plans for the Extermination of the Jews in Palestine (p. 98). Enigma Books. Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 1:32:17 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 9, 2012 1:42:57 PM PDT
William B says:
I just noticed that the Amazon monitor deleted an earlier post. I have contested the deletion. Just for the record Amazon has placed its corporate interests above all human decency in its unabashed tolerance for overt anti-Semitism and Jew-bashing. I know this because their customer service representatives told me so in no uncertain terms. This is a 1930s redux of the pathetic records of Kodak, Bayer, Coca-Cola, Ford, Standard Oil, Chase Bank, IBM and Random House (among others) Nazi sympathies. So, I am going to re-post the excerpts individually to see which of them offended Amazon's sensibilities.

Posted on May 9, 2012 1:33:14 PM PDT
William B says:
After the war, and after Yugoslavia attempted to indict him as a war criminal for crimes against humanity, al-Husseini fled to Cairo, where he remained as a guest of Egypt's King Farouk and one of his many protégés, General Gamel Abdel Nasser. Al-Husseini was received with fanfare in Cairo, where he remained headquartered for the rest of his infamous career. From Cairo, he devoted his considerable energy toward the destruction of the State of Israel, the poisoning of any vestiges of peace between Israel and the Arab states, and the destruction of the remaining Jewish communities in the Arab world. He would help Nazi war criminals settle in the Arab world through what is known as Operation Odessa. He would further encourage his followers to seize power in Arab capitals and to establish National Socialist-style governments.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism. Introduction Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 1:33:57 PM PDT
William B says:
Curiously, the French were careful to insure that al-Husseini was taken care of during his internment in a private French chateau, where he was provided luxuries such as a Tunisian cook. Al-Husseini would not stay in Paris long, as he was made aware of written testimony being given to the Nuremberg investigators by Adolf Eichmann's assistant, Hermann Krumey, regarding his participation in the extermination of the Hungarian Jews. Rumors were also circulating at the time concerning an impending indictment of al-Husseini from Yugoslavia for crimes against humanity for his role in the Hanzar genocide against the Serbs. After securing an invitation to settle in Egypt from King Farouk, al-Husseini fled Paris on May 29, 1945, one step ahead of a likely indictment as a war criminal at Nuremberg. Hence, the true role of al-Husseini regarding his involvement in these heinous crimes would never be investigated, he would remain for the rest of his life beyond the reach of justice, and most of the evidence against him shall most likely remain lost in the mists of history.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism (p. 61). Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 1:34:27 PM PDT
William B says:
In late 1944, in the last monstrous months of Hitler's war, al-Husseini attempted a final desperate move to trigger a pro-Nazi Arab rebellion and to kill the Jews of Palestine. Al-Husseini arranged for a Nazi-Arab commando unit to parachute into Palestine with the goal of poisoning the water wells of Tel Aviv.1 Amazingly the British, after all that transpired, would grant al-Husseini a full amnesty after the war in spite of their full knowledge of his record of Nazi collaboration. This shameful and inexplicable act of appeasement constituted yet another move by a Western power to appease and therefore enthrone Islamic extremism and terror. After having been allowed to escape from house arrest in Paris, al-Husseini arrived in Cairo. He arrived one step ahead of Yugoslavia, which sought to indict him in absentia for crimes against humanity for his involvement in the genocide performed by the Hanzars against the Bosnian Serbs. In spite of his record, maybe possibly because of it, al-Husseini was granted full protection and royal treatment in Egypt and he was greeted upon his arrival by throngs who welcomed him as a hero.

Morse, Chuck (2010-08-10). The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism (p. 84). Kindle Edition.

Posted on May 9, 2012 7:39:53 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 9, 2012 7:41:06 PM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
Oh are you talking about the anti Semitic Mufti of Jerusalem who went to Germany and who was with Hitler? Everyone knows about him and his anti Semitism. It is in all the History texts. Also there was an Arab Nazi military group that wore the uniforms of the Nazis, stayed together as a unit and fought for Germany. Everyone knows about them also. Yes the Mufti was well known for his Jew hate and all the serious historical texts make note of his hate. Is that what Amazon deleted, real history from the history discussion group?

Posted on May 9, 2012 8:38:47 PM PDT
L. King says:
Here's a sad note. Vidal Sassoon has passed away.

Hairdresser to the stars Vidal Sassoon has died at the age of 84.

One of the best known hairdressers of all time, Mr Sassoon was made a CBE in 2009 for his services to the industry.

The stylist, who died at home in Los Angeles, made his name with his signature "five points cut", a look that came to define the 1960s.

Born in Britain to Sephardi Jewish parents from Greece and Spain, his father abandoned the family when he was a young child and Mr Sassoon spent seven years living at the Spanish and Portuguese Jewish Orphanage in Lauderdale Road, Maida Vale.

After starting as an apprentice hairdresser in London's East End, he opened his first salon on Bond Street in 1954, expanding his business across the Atlantic and developing a successful line of hair products.

During the Second World War he joined the 43 Group, fighting fascists alongside former servicemen, and later served in the Palmach fighting for the fledgling Israeli state.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/67383/hairdresser-vidal-sassoon-dies-age-84

Perhaps he was the inspiration for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmnTmYpGhI

Posted on May 10, 2012 12:30:33 AM PDT
William B says:
The Real Palestinian Refugee Problem
Most of them aren't really refugees. They're pawns.
May 10, 2012 12:00 A.M.
By Clifford D. May

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/299512/real-palestinian-refugee-problem-clifford-d-may#

In reply to an earlier post on May 10, 2012 6:25:24 AM PDT
L. King says:
Israel asks for Australia's expertise on LNG

by: Glenda Korporaal
From: The Australian
May 07, 2012 12:00AM

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ISRAELI Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has called on Australian liquefied natural gas companies to help develop his country's giant offshore reserves.

In a meeting with Financial Services Minister Bill Shorten in Israel, Mr Netanyahu asked for assistance in developing the country's offshore natural gas fields in the Mediterranean Sea.

"The Prime Minister raised with me the possibility of being able to draw on Australia's knowledge in the LNG industry," Mr Shorten told The Australian.

...

"He said Israel wanted to expand its LNG industry and was interested in what Australia has to offer. The LNG industry is going to develop in Israel. They are crying out for technology and knowhow."

Full article: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/israel-asks-for-australias-expertise-on-lng/story-e6frg9df-1226348115760

So don't discount the Australians because of a few bitzer bogans that we've seen floating around here. However, for my own nationalist feelings, I'd rather the Israelis used Canadian companies and expertise - we do know a few tricks of the trade about liquified natural gas too. Indeed, this may have been an ancillary aspect of Shimon Peres' trip this week to visit Canada. :-)

Posted on May 10, 2012 6:57:23 AM PDT
Sixties fan says:
Erev Tov Israel !

Thursday, May 10, 2012
Mandel - Fayyad Acknowledges Palestinians Are "Losing the Argument"
Seth Mandel..
Commentary/Contentions..
09 May '12..

While it's true the Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, their "friends" don't do them any favors either. From the conspiracy theorists ranting about the "Israel Lobby" to "peace studies" intellectuals who inevitably turn out to be vicious anti-Semites to the proudly ignorant activists who debase the Civil Rights movement and the struggle against South African apartheid by using those terms in vain, pro-Palestinian advocates have been manifestly unable to mount a serious intellectual argument for their cause. And failed Prime Minister Salam Fayyad seems to know it.

Reuters interviewed the hapless technocrat, and he couched his failure in terms more sensible than his allies ever offer:

Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said on Tuesday the Palestinians may have "lost the argument" on the international stage for an independent state but cautioned that continued Israeli occupation was unsustainable....

He also warned his administration's future was clouded by severe financial strains and said the Palestinians had failed to galvanize a distracted world behind their cause.

"I think we are losing the argument, if we have not already lost the argument. But that doesn't make our position wrong," said the former World Bank economist, a political independent who has had strong support amongst Western powers.

Yes, they are losing the argument, and have been for quite some time. Statehood in the real world is not something you're granted for pitching a fit and kicking dirt at the United Nations. The toxic mix of cowards and criminals who make up the "flotilla" movement won't convince anyone you're ready to be treated like a responsible actor on the world stage. And brainwashing young minds to hate your "peace partners" isn't the strongest case for independence.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which exists to keep poor Palestinians penned up in refugee camps to radicalize instead of educate them, has contributed its own acid to the steady corrosion of the prospects for a peaceful settlement. And never permitting, let alone encouraging, a sense of moral responsibility on the part of the Palestinians is the opposite of being pro-Palestinian-it shows, as Bret Stephens pointed out in his review of Peter Beinart's new book, "an unwitting, but profound, contempt" for the Palestinians by assigning them "no moral agency."

Fayyad seems to understand that a myopic focus on Israel keeps people talking about Israel. But it would behoove the Palestinians and their defenders to talk a bit about the Palestinians and their cause. Is there a case for Palestinian statehood? I'm sure there is, but Fayyad may now understand that the global left cannot be relied upon to make it.

Link: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/05/09/fayyadpalestinians-losing-the-argument/

Posted on May 10, 2012 7:15:34 AM PDT
Sixties fan says:
Thursday, May 10, 2012
Roth - We know they're hungry... but for what, exactly?

Read below to learn more than you might
want to know about the prisoner on the right
[Image Source]
Frimet/Arnold Roth..
This Ongoing War..
09 May '12..

The media are filled with reports about a protest strike by Palestinian Arab prisoners and their friends. What's it about?

Two terms keep coming up in almost every report: the strikers are "unjustly imprisoned" and it's a "battle for freedom and dignity". But this is not about justice or dignity. Those key terms ought to mean something but as happens so often, they have been hijacked in the name of a vicious war and turned on their heads.

Some of the talking heads say/scream/shout that this is about administrative detention. But fewer (much fewer) than 1% of the Arab prisoners hunger-striking in Israeli prisons are administrative detainees. Reliable statistics we have seen say there are between five and ten such individuals among the 1,500 to 2,000 hunger strikers. [The protestors estimate there are about 300 administrative detainees in the Israeli prison system.]

The two who began hunger-striking in March are men called Bilal Diab and Tha'er Halahlah, and they are administrative detainees who have been held for nine months and 22 months respectively. Their petition came before the High Court of Justice on Monday and was heard and rejected. The court pointed to the ongoing ties of the petitioners to terrorist funding and terrorism. They are a clear and immediate security risk to Israeli citizens. And (which is also significant) the Israel Prison Service is meeting or exceeding the standards required by international law regarding prisoner treatment already.

Diab and Halahlah are in fact leaders in Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ). The angry voices are demanding that we think of them as unjustly shunted off to prison for the equivalent of failing to pay for a television license. The media and the ranks of `activist' NGOs are currently filled with such voices.

Of the other strikers, almost all were charged, tried and convicted for the most serious offences you can think of. Hundreds are in prison for murder. Quite a number of them are unrepentant murderers.

We are tracking the online news photographs (there are many) being pumped out by the wire services to enhance the impact of this protest. We have more than the usual amount of familiarity with the names and faces. When we look past the sad faced mothers and the photogenic children in the foreground, we see people like Abdullah Barghouti in the posters at the back and that puts this whole affair into a different perspective.

That particular prisoner (see 10-Apr-07: Regarding Abdullah Barghouti) made the bomb that stole our daughter's life from us. He never denied the charges against him: he was proud of them before he went to prison and he is proud of them now. He says very publicly - even on television - that he will kill more Jews when he gets the chance. More than that: he regrets that the bombings he carried out did not kill more Jews. In his own authentic and unforgettable words, "I feel bad because the number is only 66".

Prisoners like Barghouti, and not some mythical jaywalkers capriciously locked up administratively by the vindictive Zionist entity, are the cause for whom the Palestinian Arab protestors are out there shouting and burning tyres. The evidence is there in front of your eyes.

And if you ask: which editor would want to be seen fanning the flames of protest in support of a convicted multi-murderer like Barghouti serving 67 life terms, then a partial answer is: maybe the editors at UPI, APF, Daily Star - Lebanon, Scoop New Zealand and numerous others. Click on any of these and you get to see a picture of hunger-strike protestors standing in front of a picture of Abdullah Barghouti.

What would you say to the people demonstrating for rights, justice and dignity for Barghouti and the hundreds of other convicted murderous thugs? Is theirs the cause that gets you up every morning? Is the shortage of cable movie channels in their lives something that gets your adrenalin going?

Link: http://thisongoingwar.blogspot.com/2012/05/9-may-12-we-know-theyre-hungry-but-for.html

Posted on May 10, 2012 11:10:30 AM PDT
L. King says:
Tintin in the land of Israel

Today there is a 1 day exhibition at the Israeli cartoon and comic museum in Holon celebrating the art and storytelling of "Herge", the author of TinTin.

Over the years, admirers have met Tintin in many forms. First, in Herge's serial comic strip in Belgium's Le Petit Vingtième, which were soon after published as adventure books. The publication was shut down following the Nazi occupation of Belgium, incidentally interrupting what was Tintin's adventure into then British Mandate Palestine, in The Land of Black Gold.

The story, which featured Tintin's run-in with members of the Irgun after docking in Haifa, was eventually changed once the State of Israel was declared, and has since taken place in the fictional Arab country of Khemed.

t was during the Nazi Occupation that Herge began drawing his famous character for Le Soir, Belgium's most popular French-language daily newspaper, which after the occupation was known to be closely associated with the Nazi regime. Though Tintin's adventures took a turn away from current events, the comic was not without controversy.

Published in 1941, The Shooting Star featured Tintin in a race against American explorers to find a meteorite that has fallen to earth. At one point, the comic focuses on two men dressed in distinctly Jewish garb, discussing the end of the world. One of the men, who are both drawn with something of an evil appearance, states that at least when the world ends, he will no longer owe money to his creditors. Subsequent publications of The Shooting Star have been altered to omit these two characters, but their existence has led critics to accuse Herge of anti-Semitism.

Israelis may be most familiar with Tintin's television persona in The Adventures of Tin Tin, which enjoyed immense popularity as it ran in syndication in the early 1990s. Now, fans have the chance to become reacquainted with Tin Tin and his creator thanks to one of their own - Kichka.

KICHKA SEES the discussion of Herge's work as a forum on the state of the world at large, particularly through the lens of political correctness. A syndicate editorial cartoonist for publications such as France's Le Monde, Kichka's illustrations do not shy away from hot button issues, such as the Arab Spring and European politics. He is also a member of Cartooning for Peace, which Kichka says are for cartoonists from all over the world.

"The idea is to respect other religions, but not to be politically correct, not to just be provocative," he says.

Full article: http://www.jpost.com/ArtsAndCulture/Arts/Article.aspx?ID=269326&R=R1

I remember reading TinTin (and Asterix!) in French classes at school and being fascinated by the sense of adventure and the artwork. Political correctness was not an issue, one gave it a pass because it was of it's time. And when I was in Israel in 2010 I visited the Cartoon Museum (along with the nearby Museum of Design). It's quite small - the equivalent of 3-4 rooms but well worth an hour or two. There's also a row of display terminals running a video that interviews a number of the artists featured in the museum and their approach to their work, captioned in English.

The mayor of Holon is trying to position the city as a design centre.

http://www.che.org.il/english.aspx

Posted on May 10, 2012 2:29:09 PM PDT
William B says:
**** THIS IS A COPY OF A LEGITIMATE NEWS ARTICLE ****

May 10, 2012
Neo-Nazi J.T. Ready's death linked to Israel, sympathizers say

JTA

http://www.jewishjournal.com/ nation/article/neo-nazi_jt_readys_death_linked_to_israel_sympathizers_say_20120510/

The still-open investigation into the death of Arizona neo-Nazi sympathizer J.T. Ready has left some sympathizers speculating that he did not commit suicide and that Israel may be involved.

On May 2, Ready entered the home he lived in with four others, including a 15-month-old girl, and shot them dead before turning the gun on himself.

Ready, who had a record of violent tendencies, was discharged from the U.S. Marines after two courts-martial and was a self-proclaimed member of the National Socialist Movement.

Stormfront.org, a white supremacist message board where Ready was an active participant, suggested the shooting was a hit put on by a Mexican drug cartel as a result of Ready's leadership role with U.S. Border Guard, a small but heavily armed citizen militia group he founded to patrol the border for those crossing illegally. U.S. Border Guard's website "has been suspended indefinitely out of respect to the friends and family of the deceased," according to its site, usborderguard.com.

Other Stormfront users blamed the ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government), and one even pointed the finger at Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency. Many accused the media of inaccurate and biased reporting, and said they refused to believe any scenario in which Ready murdered anyone.

Ready's final post to Stormfront came at 7:18 a.m. the day of the shooting.

"NEVER a Jew to blame!" Ready wrote in one of his last Stormfront posts. "Jews are the `chosen ones' don't ya know. They can do no wrong. In fact, Jews don't ever even exist in space or time if a crime is committed by them. They float around in the matrix of racist imagination and conspiracy universes until some evil Nazi conjures them up. Then they only materialize out of thin air if they are suddenly persecuted for some strange reason. We must never blame the Jew for anything!"

In the days leading up to his death, Ready also posted a number of similarly themed comments on YouTube videos.

"Hitler was right," he commented on a video titled "Our War: The Invisible Enemy," a documentary about the British army. "And if you are too stupid to see that then you deserve to get pushed off your island into the sea by a bunch of foreigners. Jews like Jack Straw have sold you down the river(,) mate."

**** THIS IS A COPY OF A LEGITIMATE NEWS ARTICLE ****
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