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Initial post: Oct 19, 2012 5:45:44 PM PDT
The majority of people in the US know very little about The Great War. It is the forgotten war because it was overshadowed by WWII. Although the US lost thousands of soldiers, it couldn't compare to the millions that perished from the original allied forces in Europe.

How could the US promote a greater understanding of the significance and meaning of the WWI centennial?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2012 6:39:04 PM PDT
IGS says:
Fred

I think that the French, Germans, and British will honor it a way suitable to honor those who died. It is WWII part 1.

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Posted on Oct 19, 2012 9:25:55 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2012 9:34:38 PM PDT
Debunker says:
Silly, stupid post. Medearis' is too, but after reading all the idiocy he's spouted on the JFK conspiracy threads it's hardly a surprise.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 19, 2012 9:38:21 PM PDT
how quickly they forget teh two needless wars baby bush started because the neocons told him to do it

Posted on Oct 20, 2012 7:05:08 AM PDT
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OldAmazonian says:
Start another "war to end all wars"?

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity."

-- George Carlin

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2012 9:54:30 AM PDT
Debunker says:
Yet another silly, stupid post.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2012 8:39:46 PM PDT
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patrick says:
I think we get all anniversaried out, frankly...every single day of the year is the anniversary of some battle, same as every day is someones birthday,
as you note, everyone who participated in WW1 is pretty long gone now let alone Aug 2014..so there is nothing more that we can do for them, even if they wanted us to, which I think the usual general formula is the more amongst it they were at the time, the less they wanted to dwell on it 50 years later.

what new light will the mere fact of clicking over the 100-mark shine on it?
a marathon on TV of mostly 2-bit war movies...although I guess over the years now when you mention it, for some reason the average quality of WW1 movies, is no doubt higher than the average quality of WW2 movies which vastly outnumber them...wonder why that is.
Just because there are less.?
Because the trenches are acknowledged as such a protracted cauldron of unpunctuated ...unmitigated , useless wicked bloody horror that if you must make a movie about it, you have to try to do it some sort of authentic justice and respect ?
Because it is seen as an irredeamable 'bad war" , contrasting with the fighting the good fight continuation war of 20-odd years later?
Directors seem somehow less inclined to go in for cornball John Wayne heroics and anti-history..

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 20, 2012 8:58:25 PM PDT
the OP was silly stupid

my response was appropriate

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2012 6:01:49 AM PDT
Debunker says:
Very true Patrick. The 200th of the War of 1812 and the 150th of the Civil War will be going on when the 100th of WW1 starts.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 21, 2012 11:38:15 AM PDT
Cliff Sedge says:
I'm gonna make a pudding that looks like a flooded trench.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2012 10:48:24 AM PDT
We already have WWI month (May). Why do we need more?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2012 10:49:02 AM PDT
Then stand a few feet away and lob a canteloupe into it. BOOM! Body parts everywhere.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 22, 2012 12:40:28 PM PDT
and we have another ww1 thread going strong
why do we need antoher one ?

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2012 4:31:23 PM PDT
John M. Lane says:
In reply to the original post, I believe we'll see more attention paid to World War I as its centennial approaches. I'm old enough to remember ramping up for the Civil War centennial.

It was a gradual process instead of a single activity. For Americans, entry into World War I was 1917, not 1914.

Americans got much of their news about the war from British sources. In my opinion, that fostered an anti-German bias in how it was covered.

Of course, Imperial German meddling in Mexico didn't help their case. Barbara Tuchmann suggests in her book about the Zimmermann Telegram that "Pancho" Villa was an Abwehr agent and that his attack on Columbus, New Mexico, in 1916 was an effort to anchor the US to its "Southern Front" with Mexico so that it wouldn't intervene in the European war.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 23, 2012 7:38:46 PM PDT
As the centennial of WWI approaches, we should contemplate the international disorder that it created--a disorder that continues to exact a truly staggering toll.

Posted on Oct 23, 2012 11:41:03 PM PDT
Respond in awe and reverence that one country - Germany - could start not one but TWO world wars. What an achievement to be proud of.

Posted on Oct 24, 2012 12:06:47 AM PDT
jpl says:
How should the World respond to upcoming centennial of WWI

jpl: With WWIII.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 24, 2012 10:33:14 AM PDT
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Posted on Oct 24, 2012 10:48:52 AM PDT
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There is no need for this type of rubbish. The creation of a European Federation, following the creation of nation-states, had been one of the key objectives of many 19th-century European patriots, many of whom had foreseen the coming catastrophe of WWI. A unified Germany was to play a central role in this process. This expectation peaked under the leadership of the German Social Democratic Party, following the 1912 Reichstag elections--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_1912

--it collapsed tragically with the outbreak of WWI, but is again in full swing one century later.

"In the Spring of 1834, while at Berne, Mazzini and a dozen refugees from Italy, Poland and Germany founded a new association with the grandiose name of Young Europe. Its basic, and equally grandiose idea, was that, as the French Revolution of 1789 had enlarged the concept of individual liberty, another revolution would now be needed for national liberty; and his vision went further because he hoped that in the no doubt distant future free nations might combine to form a loosely federal Europe with some kind of federal assembly to regulate their common interests. [...] His intention was nothing less than to overturn the European settlement agreed in 1815 by the Congress of Vienna, which had reestablished an oppressive hegemony of a few great powers and blocked the emergence of smaller nations. [...] Mazzini hoped, but without much confidence, that his vision of a league or society of independent nations would be realized in his own lifetime. In practice Young Europe lacked the money and popular support for more than a short-term existence. Nevertheless he always remained faithful to the ideal of a united continent for which the creation of individual nations would be an indispensable preliminary." [Denis Mack Smith, "Mazzini," Yale University Press (1994) pp. 11-12] Mazzini

What is truly incredible is the following letter. Karl Blind was a German patriot living in exile in London. Giuseppe Garibaldi was truly an amazing visionary. His observations are just as applicable today as they were 147 years ago.
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Letter to Karl Blind
April 10, 1865

The progress of humanity seems to have come to a halt, and you with your superior intelligence will know why. The reason is that the world lacks a nation which possesses true leadership. Such leadership, of course, is required not to dominate other peoples, but to lead them along the path of duty, to lead them toward the brotherhood of nations where all the barriers erected by egoism will be destroyed. We need the kind of leadership which, in the true tradition of medieval chivalry, would devote itself to redressing wrongs, supporting the weak, sacrificing momentary gains and material advantage for the much finer and more satisfying achievement of relieving the suffering of our fellow men. We need a nation courageous enough to give us a lead in this direction. It would rally to its cause all those who are suffering wrong or who aspire to a better life, and all those who are now enduring foreign oppression.

This role of world leadership, left vacant as things are today, might well be occupied by the German nation. You Germans, with your grave and philosophic character, might well be the ones who could win the confidence of others and guarantee the future stability of the international community. Let us hope, then, that you can use your energy to overcome your moth-eaten thirty tyrants of the various German states. Let us hope that in the center of Europe you can then make a unified nation out of your fifty millions. All the rest of us would eagerly and joyfully follow you. [Denis Mack Smith (Editor), "Garibaldi (Great Lives Observed)," Prentice Hall, Englewood Cliffs, N.J. (1969) p. 76.] Garibaldi (Great Lives Observed)

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 24, 2012 1:47:24 PM PDT
W.T. says:
A full-sized re-enactment?

Posted on Oct 24, 2012 7:28:56 PM PDT
How to respond?

Toga party.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 28, 2012 7:55:36 AM PDT
Read the 100 year history that created the war ... then read the history that created Napolean 100 years before that.
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