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Posted on May 12, 2012 11:35:31 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 7:24:00 PM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
I don't care LAD and neither do most intelligent people. What I care about is why you are such a bigot. I would bet you don't have a clue.

In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 7:35:21 PM PDT
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Rachel says:
L King:

My best friend another teacher is in that count. I saw one life destroyed and I saw all the world destroyed.

Your question is to the point, but go an and see in Hitler's mistake a Vespasian discussion with a so called Russian Jew, Ready to vomit it all.

See, when I return from Paradise.

Rachel

In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 7:45:31 PM PDT
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Rachel says:
J. Schwarz:

What can you say! It is also no morals apart from intelligence. I have learned, to my chagrin, that there are many many people like this in the world, and they do no care about being the way they are. Actually, they relish in being mean, and instead of constructing this world, they try to destroy it. Time to think, not to despair and not even count this as informative,constructive. Certainly offensive.

The majority in this world doesn't care about our welfare.

My question would be similar to L. King's: If your relative is hurting would you behave like this?
Of course, not would be the answer. That would not be a decent thing to do. Yet, to strangers why not! and if those are Jews? Definitely so. Take out the knife.

We recognize and respect LAD for who he appears to be in these posts. A treasure to behold!

Rachel

Posted on May 13, 2012 4:58:38 PM PDT
Netanyahu ordered evacuation of Hebron home over fears of war crimes suits
AG's fear of legal action against Israeli officials at The Hague also reason for state's hesitance regarding authorization of the Ulpana Hill West Bank outpost.
By Chaim Levinson | May.13, 2012 | 8:32 PM | 13


Border Police officials evacuating a Hebron house taken over by settlers, April 4, 2012. Photo by Olivier Fitoussi
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the evacuation of a Hebron home taken by settlers last month after being informed that the expropriation of Palestinian homes and lands could complicate Israeli officials in war crimes litigation, Haaretz learned on Sunday.

Last month, Israeli security forces evacuated Israeli settlers from a house in a Palestinian neighborhood in Hebron, in a surprise move that ended an affair that sparked controversy across Israel and caused a rift in the government.

Senior officials in the prime minister's office said at the time that the evacuation was carried out after careful coordination between the defense minister and the prime minister. Nevertheless, Netanyahu's aides went on the defensive against right-wing criticism and said that the premier had no choice but to approve the evacuation out of security and legal consideration.

The aides said that during the late night discussion prior to the evacuation no decisions were made regarding the immediate evacuation of the house.

However, in a meeting between Netanyahu, Barak, and Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein on the morning of the evacuation, the AG reportedly presented his legal opinion, according to which a lack of strict adherence to the law on the matter could complicate Israel in an international legal crisis.

Weinstein reportedly told Netanyahu and Barak that the expropriation of Palestinian land and homes, such as the Hebron takeover, could lead to Israeli officials being indicted at the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Barak then claimed that the house must be evacuated before the Passover holiday, which led to Netanyahu's order to clear the Hebron outpost.

Sources in the Justice Ministry indicated that they fear the State of Israel or Israeli officials could be charged by the ICC, in operation since 2002. According to the Fourth Geneva Convention, an occupier moving population into occupied land constitutes a war crime.

Weinstein also repeated his stance concerning the contentious Ulpana Hill neighborhood of the West Bank settlement of Beit El.

The AG also expressed his opinion concerning the kind of High Court-bypassing laws suggested by some in the right in order to sanction outposts and settlements found illegal by the court.

Weinstein reportedly expressed the legal system's opposition to the legislation of such laws and warned against what he said were the far-reaching legal consequences of such legislation, since the High Court is viewed around the world as a check maintaining the rule of law.

As of now, among the team of ministers dealing with the issue, Netanyahu, Barak, and Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya'alon oppose such a law, citing, among other reasons, the AG's opposition. Education Minister Gideon Sa'ar, however, supports such legislation, with the stance of new Vice Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz not yet clear.

A spokesperson at the Justice Ministry refused to comment on the issue.

Earlier Sunday, a ministerial legislation panel rejected a bill geared at applying Israeli law on settlements in the West Bank, following an intervention by Justice Minister Yaakov Neeman.

The justice minister's move came after it had become apparent that the bill would pass the Ministerial Committee for Legislation, after nine of the panel's members indicated that they would back the legislation.

At that point, Neeman attempted to convince the bill's initiator Likud MK Miri Regev to postpone the vote to a later date, in a bid to avert a head-on collision between Netanyahu's government and the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama.

As a result of Regev's continued insistence, Neeman made it clear that it was Netanyahu's position to vote against the bill, at which point panel members reversed their original votes.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-ordered-evacuation-of-hebron-home-over-fears-of-war-crimes-suits-1.430185

Posted on May 13, 2012 5:00:22 PM PDT
IDF closes Palestinian school to make way for West Bank training zone
Civil Administration issues demolition order against the school, though residents have no access to any other.
By Akiva Eldar | May.14, 2012 | 12:30 AM


The Palestinian elementary school, located in the Jinba cave village in the southern Hebron hills. Photo by Alla Wawi
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A Palestinian elementary school was shut down last week after Israel's Civil Administration confiscated the vehicle used to transport teachers to it.

Teachers initially tried coming to the school, located in the Jinba cave village in the southern Hebron hills, by donkey, but this proved disruptive since they were often late.

On Sunday, the administration also confiscated the car of a veterinarian employed by the Palestinian Authority when he came to the village to vaccinate sheep. The vehicles were seized as part of a stepped-up enforcement campaign in Area C, the part of the West Bank under full Israeli control.

The Civil Administration also issued a demolition order against the school, though residents have no access to any other school: The nearest is in Yatta, 20 kilometers away.

In addition, it ordered an access road, tents, mud huts, sheepfolds and solar energy facilities razed, reinstating demolition orders frozen by agreement with the state prosecution in 2007.

In 1999, the area was declared a live-fire exercise zone by the Israel Defense Forces, meaning people aren't allowed to live there. The residents were evicted but petitioned the High Court of Justice, which issued an interim injunction allowing them to return until it issues a final ruling. Ever since, the case has been stuck in court, with the state requesting and receiving continual postponements of the deadline for filing its response. Last month, the state promised to file its response within 30 days.

The residents' attorney, Shlomo Lecker, told Haaretz that the wave of confiscations and demolition orders is a serious violation of the High Court's injunction. "It's the state that asked to delay hearing the petition for the last 12 years, and you can't expect hundreds of residents of the cave village to have their lives put on hold for such a long time - that the access road to the site would be blocked, and they would be denied the possibility of giving their children compulsory education," he said.

Dror Etkes, who has monitored West Bank settlement activity for years, told Haaretz that three settlement outposts had recently expanded into the live-fire zone: Avigail, Mitzpeh Yair and Havat Ma'on. "But as far as I know, there are no restrictions on their movement in the area, and none of their vehicles have been confiscated," he said. "I also don't know of any active army exercise area within this live-fire zone. In most of it, there never were any exercises."

The Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories said the court would hear the petition against the army's declaration of the live-fire zone in a few days, and the state would give its response there.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-closes-palestinian-school-to-make-way-for-west-bank-training-zone-1.430233

In reply to an earlier post on May 13, 2012 5:10:49 PM PDT
You seriously don't CARE?

I can understand not trusting the source of the story; but, if you are saying, "I don't care if that was done... any means to an end, I always say," that's pretty depraved.

Was that what you meant???

In reply to an earlier post on May 13, 2012 8:00:23 PM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
I don't care about anything LAD posts, get it? The guy is a bigot and that is something you are going to have to understand. Most of the crapole LAD posts is from racist websites and most of us don't bother to read it. You want to read it, then enjoy, I don't.

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 2:27:25 AM PDT
The only reason that I read that post on that occasion was that it was conveniently short. Someone would have to have a reading disability not to take it in merely by passing their eyes over it three times.

My reaction to the story was suspicion about the source. You could have just "no-voted" it and moved on. You could have stated that you never read his posts, so that he and his posts are irrelevant to you. But you stated that you "didn't care" to the post, and, as if to diminish its offensiveness, compared it to LAD's bigotry which, while inarguable, is irrelevant in regard to the story.

I don't need any lessons in the fact that LAD is a bigot. His motives may be bad. But, even the Nazis uncovered the massacre of Polish officers in the Katyn forest, and I don't consider any country above unscrupulous mischief.

If you meant that you didn't read the post and were not commenting on its content, that was the full extent of my inquiry; although your phrasing was naturally misleading.

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 5:08:36 AM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
I have stated I have not read his posts often on this site. His sources are usually racist so I don't even bother. I don't bother to comment on anything he posts because usually he will not answer anyway and if you make an obvious point about the racism or bigotry it goes through him. Most of us don't even bother because we know something is wrong with the poster. A lot wrong.

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Posted on May 14, 2012 2:21:05 PM PDT
Haredi institutions implicated in massive financial scheme
Police raid several ultra-Orthodox institutions in Jerusalem, arrest five for allegedly defrauding State out of millions via false registration of seminary students
Yair Altman
Published: 05.06.12, 14:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The Jerusalem Police raided several ultra-Orthodox institutions Sunday as part of an elaborate fraud investigation. Five people were arrested.

Police believe that the suspects are involved in a massive student registration scheme, meant to defraud the state out of millions of shekels.

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According to available details, the suspects falsely registered children ages 3-14 in religious seminaries run by haredi sects, which are known to be anti-government.

The investigation is headed by the Jerusalem Police's 101 Unit. During the raid several computers and documents were seized.


The police said that the investigation is ongoing and that future arrests are likely to take place in the coming weeks.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4225305,00.html

Posted on May 14, 2012 2:23:11 PM PDT
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Haredi institutions: Faked identities Photo: Reuters
Police: Haredim embezzled millions in ID fraud
Raid on yeshivas' offices reveals fake IDs believed to have been used to reap student stipends
Yair Altman
Published: 11.21.10, 17:35 / Israel News

Jerusalem Police on Sunday raided the offices of three ultra-Orthodox non-profit organizations, which operate yeshivas in the capital and nearby towns of Beit Shemesh and Beitar Illit. Officers believe that the organizations embezzled millions from the State.

The haredi institutions are suspected to have produced fake IDs in order to receive monthly stipends from the Education Ministry for alleged yeshiva students.

Six suspects were arrested and four others were brought in for questioning. More than a 1,000 fake ID cards were discovered in the raid, along with computers and machines for printing and laminating the cards, and other equipment.

A preliminary hearing for a number of men detained during the raid has been scheduled for Monday.

Police officials said they monitored the organizations in question for quite some time. "The organizations presented a false record of hundreds of students who attend each yeshiva, and received money for these students," one official explained.

"The organizations we raided worked as factories through and through, systematically producing fake IDs, some for students not studying at yeshivas and some for people who do not exist," said Chief-Superintendant Haim Shmueli, who headed the raid.


"All of this was done in order to enlarge the annual stipends paid by the state. We checked, and found that just a slim percentage of students reported by the yeshivas actually studied there."

Police are also investigating the location laundering the embezzled money, and expect to make more arrests in the case.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3987802,00.html

Posted on May 14, 2012 3:09:26 PM PDT
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Israel still holds 1000s of political prisoners, including 27 Palestinian members of Parliament
by Philip Weiss on May 14, 2012 1

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Today IMEU held a phone conference with three experts on Palestinian prisoners: Sahar Francis, Director of Addameer: Prisoners Support and Human Rights Association; Ruchama Marton, founder of Physicians for Human Rights-Israel; and Bill van Esveld of Human Rights Watch. Some basic facts about the prisoners:

How many prisoners are under administrative detention?

FRANCIS: There are actually 308 administrative detainees in the Israeli prisons. Of course, 1000s of Palestinians have been subjected to it. During the Second intifada, more than 2500 were held under administrative detention. And administrative detention [facilitateds] torture because the prisoner never knows when he will be released or what he has to argue in order to be released....

National Public Radio just called administrative detention controversial. But is it illegal?

VAN ESVELD: The idea that you can lock up 100s of people at any given time-- and over the years 100s and 1000s of people-- without any due process rights, really turns human rights law on its head. The exception has become the rule in the Israeli case, and administrative detention has become the 'go to solution' [in case in which authorities] don't have the evidence... It shouldn't take prisoners and detainees putting their lives at risk to make Israel wake up to the idea that this whole regime of administrative detention runs afoul of human rights law.

What is the total number of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prison, and why are they there?

FRANCIS: There are 4700 prisoners, including 220 minors under 18, seven women, 308 administrative detainees, and 27 Palestinian M.P.s [members of Parliament].

Eight hundred of those prisoners are in for life [presumably for more serious offenses]. The majority of prisoners were arrested for political reasons. Being a member of [almost any] Palestinian party is illegal. Demonstrations against the wall or against settlements are illegal. From 1967 till now, 800,000 Palestinians have been arrested and imprisoned. Addameer estimates that about 40 percent of the Palestinian male population has been arrested at least once in their lives.

How does Israel justify these punishments?

VAN ESVELD: Israel's official position is that it has no obligations to Palestinians in the occupied territories-- no human rights obligations. The UN Human Rights Committee has consistently said that administrative detention is practiced in an unlawful way. Israel says that it is [carried out] for security [purposes] and it has no human rights obligations [to people under occupation].

What is the difference between this hunger strike and predecessors?

FRANCIS: It's a very different atmosphere. [Because there are many] other campaigns in the occupied territories, with the support of international activists. This time the role of the prisoners is taken very seriously [internationally].

This strike has gotten global attention. What about coverage inside Israel of the hunger strikers?

MARTON: I was in a coffee shop. I asked the waiter who was really nice [what he thought about the hunger strikers] He said, 'Is is still going on? What do they want?' He didn't know.... We don't have the exposure that we hope to have. [Here are strikers going 77 days without food] risking their lives, and there are very small echoes of this in the Israeli media.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/05/israel-still-holds-1000s-of-political-prisoners-including-27-palestinian-members-of-parliament.html

Posted on May 14, 2012 3:10:45 PM PDT
West Virginia newspaper: `Apartheid imposed on Palestinians'
by Philip Weiss on May 14, 2012
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We are climbing Jacob's ladder! From the Charleston, WV, Sunday Gazette-Mail: "Apartheid: Imposed on Palestinians:"

Nearly a half-century has passed since Israel seized the West Bank in a 1967 war. Repeatedly, the United Nations has mandated that the captured land be returned to Palestinians, but more and more settlements by fervent Jews are imposed on the conquered territory.

In 1993, when the Oslo Accord promised Palestinians a homeland, only 200,000 Jews lived in the illicit colonies, but the number has soared past 500,000 with no limit in sight. The settlers enjoy privileged living under protection of Israeli soldiers, while Palestinians mostly languish in poverty.

A 2010 Human Rights Watch report said Israel's armed rule of the West Bank provides "preferential services, development and benefits for Jewish settlers while imposing harsh conditions on Palestinians." Bishop Tutu added: "This, in my book, is apartheid."

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/05/west-virginia-newspaper-apartheid-imposed-on-palestinians.html

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 3:20:19 PM PDT
John M. Lane says:
I get it, Lawrence A. Dickerson. You're going to bore all the Jews to death.

"Vici Via SPAM!" (Conquest Through SPAM!)

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 3:55:04 PM PDT
L. King says:
You might have missed it Loser Larry, but the "hunger strike" is over.

And nobody anywhere really cared. Their demands included more TV channels and a return of free university courses. As you pointed out most of those arrested are adult males with a history of violence. Yawn.

You can now return to the real news dealing with political corruption in the Palestinian Authority and Hamas putting people to death.

"The Hamas interior minister, Fathi Hamad, said Saturday that the death penalty was meant to deter all those who would "betray their homeland." "

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/world/middleeast/hamas-executes-3-palestinians-in-gaza.html

Oh well, so much for freedom of expression, Palestinian style. ;-)

Posted on May 14, 2012 3:57:38 PM PDT
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L. King says:
This might also be of historical interest:

PALESTINIAN LEADERS TRICK THEIR PEOPLE AGAIN

Barghouti eats during a hunger strike. Arafat rips off the Palestinian treasury. Hamas leaders hide while they send off others to die. This article takes a look at these phenomena.
What do Marwan Barghouti, Yasser Arafat, Ahmad Qureia, and leaders past and present of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and others, have in common? Besides encouraging their followers to kill Jews in Israel, they regularly pull the wool over their followers' eyes, lying, cheating, and profiting from the suffering of the Palestinians. They habitually sacrifice average Palestinians, in their struggle against Israel, while protecting themselves and their loved ones from harm.

The latest is the case of Marwan Barghouti, West Bank leader of Arafat's Fatah movement, founder of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade (outlawed as a terrorist organization by the US) and a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council. Barghouti is serving five consecutive life terms in an Israeli prison for his involvement in terrorist activities that caused the deaths of many Israelis.
What did he do?

Hamas and Islamic Jihad, along with Fatah's Barghouti, recently called on Palestinian security prisoners in Israeli prisons to start a hunger strike. They've been into it for a few days now, the prison authorities report that over 2,000 prisoners are starving themselves. The Palestinian Authority and Israeli Arab groups have organized demonstrative solidarity days with the hunger strikers, but not Barghouti, he was caught on a hidden video camera in his cell...eating!

That's right, while his fellow prisoners were refraining from food, Marwan Barghouti, the Tanzim terrorist leader, was caught on camera feeding his face. First he covered the door and window of his cell - so as not to be seen - then he washed his hands and pigged out. According to Prison Services spokesman Ofer Lefler, Barghouti asked wardens for the food and ate without knowing that a camera was filming from a small hole in the wall. Israel wanted to catch him, to show fasting prisoners how their leader was behaving, Lefler said. "I want to show the world and the Palestinians that we are dealing with terrorists," Lefler continued, "Barghouti is sitting on a pot of meat and he sends his friends to die."

Imagine that...

Full article: http://rochester.indymedia.org/node/1961

Yes, this was during the 2002 hunger strike. Barghouti then as now was serving 5 consecutive terms for conspiracy to commit murder. Calling him a "political" prisoner is ridiculous.

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 4:01:55 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 14, 2012 4:08:52 PM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
If he bores the Jews to death he will get his wish to end the Jews. But seriously, when you compare LAD to anyone else, the guy is a failure not bright enough to realize it. He should try to get a job with Al Jezeera but I doubt if they would hire him. I wouldn't. Maybe someone would take a hidden picture of LAD while he goes to the dentist and uses novacaine, a Jewish discovery, or his computer and cell phone, also greatly contributed by Israel and Jews.

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 4:20:46 PM PDT
John M. Lane says:
I wonder if he might already be working for Al Jezeera, J. Schwarz. Who knows?

Maybe they're paying him by the word?

In reply to an earlier post on May 14, 2012 4:58:04 PM PDT
L. King says:
He seems to think that the Internet will shake people of their faith in God, John. I don't think that's necessarily the case. For example he also believed that the Scofield Bible would undermine Christianity - Dickerson specifically warned us about that one - and that was published over 100 years ago. Christianity is still with us.

The only one it seemed to work on was Dickerson himself, as he's the only one who's ever heard of it, let alone "absorbed" it's secret message of Godlessness. So in effect Dickerson has warned us about Dickerson. So noted.

As Yoda would say... the death star doesn't quite go to the top on that one. Chewbacca, few wookies short he is.

The Internet is a wonderful way to disseminate information. Just ask IslamOnline which is ranked 86,000th in the world, or Ummah.com which is more than twice as popular at 36,864. Yet still not quite as popular as the Jewish web site aish.com, run by Orthodox Lubavitch Jews which is ranked 35,325. That may be explained by the fact that a greater percentage of Jews can read and that the aish site has been around longer. The most popular Christian website that I know of is BibleGateway.com - ranked 1108 in the world, which beats them all.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:51:23 AM PDT
William B says:
Are you really female?

Posted on May 15, 2012 1:13:09 PM PDT
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William B says:
LOL Larry, just what do you or:

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