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In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 12:28:18 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 12:26:31 PM PDT
Rachel says:
William B;

Dear, correct!

Rachel

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 3:15:43 PM PDT
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William B says:
Rachel:

I see that Omnimus has been over here casting all three of his votes. How does this fellow expect to be taken seriously when he has to impersonate an ex-wife and an "ultra-orthodox" Jew from Tehran in order to keep his posts from being "disappeared"? I'm actually a late comer to this forum but wasn't surprised to see Lily whining and crying on Amazon's shoulder. The only hope they have is to lie, cheat and steal (on Amazon that is). Otherwise, their only recourse is lies, theft and murder.

Posted on May 7, 2012 3:26:07 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:04:48 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 7, 2012 5:52:46 PM PDT
Rachel says:
William B:

Thank you for the information.

My thought was that it was that "inanne" of a person.
Glad to have you here and in every other forum!
Virtual hugs,
Rachel

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:06:54 PM PDT
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Rachel says:
"Jeff and the identifiables."
Proud of it, we know who we are, and why!

Rachel Jewish princess

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:08:47 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:13:38 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
Being a rabid anti-Semite appears to elicit a great deal of pride in left coaster. It's a shame he can't find anything else in which to take pride. It's understandable, but a shame.

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:22:57 PM PDT
See Jeff. Your tribe has now taken over the, "feedback" thread.

You enjoy a total lack of insight into your own behavior. It is quite evident in this thread. There is an entire, "Judiasm Forum" but you and your tribe feel the need to make the History Forum your personal playground. Free to start threads like, "Eye on the Muslim Threat" or, "A Place for Pro Israeli Posters" on the the history forum.

What's the matter? No point in preaching your Jewish supremacy to the choir on the Judaism Forum? Not able to garner enough attention there?

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:28:07 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 7, 2012 4:28:47 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
In other words, "Why don't you Jews stay in the Judaism Forum where you belong and let us anti-Semites say bad things about Jews everywhere else?"

Are you really the wretched worthless piece of hateful refuse you appear to be, left coaster? Does your existence have any redeeming value whatsoever?

Very sad.

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 4:38:47 PM PDT
William B says:
ROTFL I guess that I'll have to trudge off to the "Judaism Forum" ghetto, too; or, do you think lc will be gracious enough to grant me a dispensation. Did you notice that that he can't even spell "Judaism"?

In reply to an earlier post on May 7, 2012 5:41:37 PM PDT
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Diva says:
ROTFLMAO

What's with the Kooks here??

Didn't you Left Kookster start the thread Jews vs Goyim in the history forum?? Are you that deranged that you don't remember??
And you are asking why we have "taken over" the history forum??
If you didn't start your demented brain storm on the history forum, we would not respond to it in the history forum.
The same applies to the other Kooks threads in the history forum Dud.

Go find a corner in a round room where you can contemplate your stupid questions and accusations.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 8, 2012 11:37:59 AM PDT
William B says:
My, my... "Attention ho's"? How rude!
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In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 12:23:08 PM PDT
I don't like all the political posts in the history forum - why don't they all go to a "Political discussion forum" or "Politics". My interests are in history not current issues or political views of the posters.

In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 4:07:30 PM PDT
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B. A. Dilger says:
"I don't like all the political posts in the history forum - why don't they all go to a "Political discussion forum" or "Politics". My interests are in history not current issues or political views of the posters."

Many of today's 'current issues' are the result of a long historical thread. I can assure you that topics of conversation in the Politics thread have a 'history' measured in days, if not hours. The Israeli-Arab conflict, the aftereffects of war, and other pressing issues which have their roots deep in the consciousness of humanity are manifested in the here and now. History and current events are woven into strong argumentation by an interplay of reason and rhetoric. You would not condemn those who plead for sanity the refuge of the ages?

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In reply to an earlier post on May 9, 2012 10:47:48 PM PDT
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William B says:
I agree. The "discussions" here have become an extension of the conflict itself. If the previous poster were to look more closely he would find strong historic argumentation that quickly degrades into emotional tirades and blatant propaganda. Of course I prefer to believe that this is a characteristic of the "Palestinian" camp because that's all they really have.

Posted on Jun 26, 2012 3:42:23 PM PDT
W. Westphal says:
LOL, Amazon, you have changed many things today!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 30, 2012 2:20:59 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 30, 2012 2:27:06 PM PDT
Hey Jeff,

Many Jews, notably the orthodox, are in fact, the scum of the earth.

Look at the Mafia accountants throughout history.. Meyer Lansky (Castro kicked him out, hence the Cuban missle crisis) and Diem in Vietnam kicked them out(the Israeli-France Heroin consortium), hence Vietnam, the list goes on throughout history. Before that it was Bugsy Seigal whom Lansky had murdered, and before that during prohibition, it was Rothstein. The allegiance Jews have to their rabbis are as Susanna would say "loyalty"... displaced I might add.

How many Rabbis does Vad Yashem list that died in the Holocaust? ( they list 2, right?)

from Vad Yashem:

"Did the Rabbis desert their communities during the Holocaust and, in general, how did the community leadership respond?

This issue is a result of the ideological polemics in the wake of the Shoah. From a historical perspective, the reactions of the various rabbis, throughout the Holocaust, were not uniform and, as in other disciplines, it is necessary to examine each case on its own, evaluating the reactions of the rabbis from within the context of their own circumstances and reality. Rabbis and religious representatives made up a significant part of the leadership within the European Jewish community prior to the war, and the assessment of their deeds needs to be judged against the rest of the Jewish community leadership during the Holocaust years. Their own conduct and guiding principles to which they adhered were influenced by ideological elements that also effected their concepts regarding Nazi regime. It is important to emphasize that no-one anticipated the subsequent final mass extermination.

It is also of significance that the community rabbis were viewed, not only as political leaders, but rather first and foremost as spiritual leaders, and their actions, as did their sermons, sustained sometimes hidden as well as clear directive elements that were conveyed to their congregations and to the general public. There were those rabbis who maintained their authority by merit of their ordination from the Jewish congregations and there were those who simply by right of their own personality or spirituality acquired such roles. The rabbis' conduct throughout the Holocaust, as well as the expectations of the Jewish community, depended directly on their manner of leadership both religiously and socially.

With the rise of the Nazis to power in Germany, and their takeover of the neighboring countries over the following years, the leadership of the Jewish community sensed the impending menace. Many of the Jewish spiritual, ideological and community leaders in Europe - rabbis, political party leaders and heads of the youth movements - sensed that their earlier public activities would eventually endanger them, on the assumption that the Nazi government would strike first at public figures who, prior to the war, had openly expressed their anti-Nazi views. There were also those who were of the opinion that the disturbances would not persist for long and that their own public activities on behalf of the community would be more effective from without the borders of the Nazi occupation. As a result, many public leaders, among them also the religious leaders, took advantage during the first days, while escape was still possible, to flee the areas of the Nazi occupation - especially in the first two months of the occupation of Poland - leaving their communities behind. Thus, for example, in the first two months of the occupation of Poland the prominent Rabbi of Gur, Samuel Zygelbojm of the Socialist Bund party and Menahem Begin, among the prominent activists among the young Zionist Revisionists, fled the area.

The public leaders, among them many rabbis who had chosen to remain with their communities, were executed during the first days of the occupation. Others took upon themselves, at later stages in the war, official leadership roles within the Judenrate and its departments or joined in the activities of non-official Jewish organizations. Many rabbis regarded providing social assistance as an important role and participated in setting up kosher public kitchens and assisting refugees, sick people and children.

Among the rabbis who chose to remain with their congregations was rabbi Joseph Zvi Carlebach of Germany who, despite being under constant observation by the Gestapo and despite being beaten by the mobs during the Kristallnacht riots, chose not to take advantage of the means at his disposal and leave, thus his actions as well as his exceptional personality proved to be a spiritual help to many. Rabbi Carlebach continued his public religious duties also after being deported to the east. He was murdered by the Nazis in March 1942; the rabbi Leo Baeck, leader for liberal Judaism in Germany also remained in Germany. Elected as president of the Reichsvereinigung der Juden in Germany. (Reich Association of the Jews in Germany) - at its inception in 1933 and remained in this role till it's eradication in 1943. He regarded his primary role as maintaining unity among German Jews and present a united front to the outside. Even upon his deportation to Theresienstadt he continued his public activities. After becoming aware of the fate of those deported from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz, Baeck kept the information secret and at the end of the war there were those who sharply criticized his judgment; the rabbi of Piaseczna was one of the outstanding young Hassidic leaders in Poland between the two world wars.He too remained with his Hassidic followers. During the war, the rabbi stayed in the Warsaw Ghetto, where he continued to conduct the `tisch' [Hassidic table] and give sermons encouraging his followers. The rabbi of Piaseczna was murdered towards the end of 1943. Naturally, there were rabbis who chose to react in a different fashion, some of them, as a result, receiving harsh criticism. For instance, throughout the war and during the post-war period sharp accusations concerning the reaction of rabbi of Belz who fled Poland for Hungary in 1943. The rabbi gave several speeches encouraging and calming the Jews of Hungary, however, following the occupation of Hungary in March 1944, he fled and survived while most of those to whom he had preached perished; a unique episode is the rescue of the Lithuanian yeshivas, their rabbis and pupils. The Mir yeshiva, and similarly several other yeshivas, succeeded in escaping in an organized manner, through independent Lithuania, Russia, Japan and China to Shanghai - and thus were saved from the terror of the Nazi occupation.

In general, despite the undermining of their official rabbinical status during the war, many of the Jews in the ghetto - including the leadership in the ghetto - continued to regard them as the authority on issues concerning traditional and Jewish law. Many Jews sought their dwellings, not only in order to participate in the prayers but also to listen to the discussions and sermons, and in some instances Jews, distanced from religion, turned to the rabbis for comfort and encouragement. Even the leaders of the Judenrate sought their advice and often included them in their meetings and in making paramount decisions. Overall, similar to the reactions of other public leaders, the behavior of the rabbis or traditional Jews was essentially based on personal considerations with most responding to their own personal reality and sense of public mission."

lot of BS there, isn't there? Avoided answering the question...

Posted on Jun 30, 2012 8:44:48 PM PDT
Rachel says:
Lots of baseless understandings!
Yep! BS.

Rachel

Posted on Jul 1, 2012 7:00:35 AM PDT
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Ok, Rachel,

Yes, understandings, not misunderstandings!

Answer me.. How many Rabbis did die in the Holocaust (at the hands of the Germans during WW2) according to Vad Yashem?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 4:01:19 PM PDT
Rachel says:
YOU have no right to ask ME questions!

YOU are working here under an assumed name.

I truly truly do not care about who you are or your idiosyncratic opinions.

Stop stalking me.
Disraeli would be pro Israel actually.

Rachel

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 1, 2012 9:07:57 PM PDT
Omnimus says:
What is your full name?
Assumed?

A True Jewess

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 2, 2012 7:45:17 AM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
Two "yes" votes for this post. Hopefully, they were only from 2 of Omnimus' other alter egos.

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