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Posted on Jun 15, 2012 12:21:42 PM PDT
William B says:
'60 Minutes' Anti-Israel Propaganda Deals Another Blow to CBS's Credibility

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjoZHf3YBUo

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 12:23:57 PM PDT
Susanna says:
Argh, I was right about you all along, eh Jeff??

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 12:26:05 PM PDT
Susanna says:
lol

he's just trolling; throwing anyand every thing out to see if he can get a rise.

I'm ignoring him altogether.

Normally, about the animal thing, I say take what we can get in terms of support, (even Lorraine!), but I'm rethinking that now. He's simply using it to sling...mud.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 12:27:28 PM PDT
Sixties fan says:
Maybe Israel needs to fly over Gaza and the PA and spread flyers about it.
"Check the Quran as to how Allah has given the land of Israel to the Jews. It is written. Chapter and verse...."

How many would throw it away?
How many would scratch their heads and check it out and start wondering why the leaders are going after land Allah says is not theirs?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 12:27:45 PM PDT
Susanna says:
ROFL!!!

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 12:45:38 PM PDT
Sixties fan says:
Conditions, Schmonditions!

Here are mine:
Get the heck out of the Jewish Homeland.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156917

bbas: Release Prisoners, then I'll Meet Netanyahu

PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas will demand the release of 123 prisoners before agreeing to meet PM Binyamin Netanyahu, says PLO negotiator.


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By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 6/15/2012, 10:09 PM

Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas will demand the release of 123 long-term prisoners before agreeing to meet Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat said on Friday.

Speaking to the Bethlehem-based Ma'an news agency, Erekat said Abbas wants Israel to free 123 prisoners detained before the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993.

Erekat also said Abbas may meet with Israel's deputy prime minister Shaul Mofaz, but noted that no date has been set for such a meeting.

Mofaz on Thursday called on Abbas to take advantage of the large coalition and begin peace negotiations.

Speaking at a meeting of the Kadima council, Mofaz addressed Abbas, saying, "Forget the letters, forget the preconditions - Let's talk peace now. The coalition today is the widest ever, and this allows for a political breakthrough."

Abbas has continued to demand that Israel accept the indefensible pre-1967 lines as final borders, release all Arab terrorists from its jails, and halt construction in Judea, Samaria and east Jerusalem for a second time before talks begin.

Last week he warned that he may seek non-member status for a Palestinian state at the United Nations if peace talks with Israel do not resume. Mofaz indicated last week that he means to meet with Abbas in order to get the peace process going, which is one of the four major issues to be addressed as part of the recent coalition agreement between Likud and Kadima.

Meanwhile, Fatah official Nabil Shaath said the PA did not have faith in the Israeli government to follow through with its declarations.

Shaath told Ma'an that Israel "cannot even implement court orders to remove an illegal outpost by the Beit El settlement near Ramallah, let alone resolve the issue of settlements in its entirety."

Yasser Abed Rabbo, secretary-general of Fatah's executive council, said on Thursday that PA officials were wary of maintaining the status-quo with Israel at the expense of progress.

"What we're afraid of is that this process exists to contain any crisis that may occur and not to push the political process forward," Abed Rabbo told Voice of Palestine radio.

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 12:59:13 PM PDT
Sixties fan says:
http://www.jpost.com/ArtsAndCulture/Entertainment/Article.aspx?id=273793

First-ever Israeli film festival in London kicks off

By JONNY PAUL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT

06/14/2012 05:34

Seret festival is brainchild of Haroush, former manager of London Ahava cosmetics store.
Photo: Courtesy
LONDON - London is set to host the UK's first-ever Israeli film festival which kicks off on Thursday with a celebration of work celebrating the contribution that Israeli film and television has made and the diversity of its projects.

Seret, the London Israeli Film & Television Festival, is the brainchild of Odelia Haroush, a former manager of the Ahava cosmetics store in London targeted last year by anti-Israel activists; Anat Koren, editor of Alondon, a popular magazine in Hebrew for London's extensive Israeli community; and Patty Hochmann, a member of the Israeli Film Academy.

Haroush said she hoped the festival would provide a window to Israeli culture and life and show how Israel's film and television industry is flourishing.

She said she was motivated after experiencing weekly protests by anti- Israel activists at Ahava.

Koren and Hochmann, who were roommates at Tel Aviv University some years ago, got together with Haroush last summer to put the festival together.

"We all realized that there is no Israeli film festival in London, as there are in various places around the world, such as New York, Chicago, Amsterdam and Paris.

"The Israel film and TV industry is flourishing with many Israeli television programs are being bought by US and UK distributors," Haroush told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday. "We wanted to show the UK audience the culture and social diversity in everyday life in Israel through the medium of film and television."

There is no better example than the successful Homeland, a US adaptation of his Israeli television series Hatufim (Prisoners of War) (2009), which has won two Golden Globes and has been screened in more than 40 countries.

The festival will screen 14 Israeli films at various London cinemas showcasing the outstanding contribution of Israeli film and television to the arts. Some of the films' directors will feature in question and answer sessions.

Episodes from the award-winning sit-com Ramzor (Traffic Light), which was adapted by Fox in the US and bought by Russian television channel RTC, and award-winning drama Pilpilim Tzehubim (Yellow Peppers) will make up the festival's program.

The films set to be screened include Footnote (directed by Joseph Cedar, 2011) which was nominated for Best Foreign Language Film at this year's Academy Awards, Off White Lies (Maya Kenig, 2011), Invisible (Michal Aviad, 2011), The Fifth Heaven (Dina Tzvi- Riklis, 2011), I Shot My Love (Tomer Heymann, 2010), Sharqiya (Ami Livne, 2012), 2 Night (Roi Werner, 2011) and Lipstikka (Jonathan Segal, 2011).

Friday sees an industry day which provides an opportunity to meet Israeli filmmakers and television program creators.

The aim is to facilitate discussions about collaboration and broaden the communication that already exists between the British and Israeli industries.

"The day will give a opportunity to directors and other talents that we are bringing from Israel to meet and discuss their last and next projects with some important figures from the film and TV industry in the UK," Haroush said.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:16:20 PM PDT
I wasn't reading their posts, anymore. You were called a leftist? LOL! It's sort of funny, the way we just get called the opposite of whatever a person's politics are. Sometimes, I get called an 'extreme right wing fanatic!'. Other times, I'm getting called a Pinko Commie!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 3:17:32 PM PDT
J. Schwarz says:
How many can read the Qu'ran in Arabic? And how many bothered to read it?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 3:32:32 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
Can't keep these things secret forever. This thread's getting disturbing. I find myself allied with Bookish!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 3:33:44 PM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
Thank you, Comrade.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 8:03:42 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
Valid criticism! I'm a jerk and I don't fit my amazon bio!! LOL!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 8:10:23 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
Are you on drugs? Do you know nothing about the weeks and weeks of riots in Canada? Smashing windows, burning cars. Over tuition hikes? A hundred days of riots over tuition hikes? 150,000 people in the streets. No there isn't any conflict in Canada.

And conflict doesn't necessarily mean violence, but you've had plenty of violence. Stop dreaming. Politics is conflict. Political parties compete for votes and lie to you to get your vote. You're incredibly uninformed. But with your government and your media...

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 8:14:01 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>Do we keep people out on that basis? Do we even consider it?<<

Why? For what reason? Do you understand the concept of what a "reason" is?

>>I think you have a great country.<<

Maybe, but I seriously question your judgement.

>>we tend to be less violent, less divisive as a society.<<

LOL!!!! There is no limit to your ability to deny reality is there?

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 8:52:36 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
No riots in Canada!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/stanley-cup-riot-anniversary-vancouver-still-recovering-192754774.html

////Stanley Cup riot anniversary: Vancouver still recovering
By Steve Mertl | Daily Brew - 8 hours ago

Riots are something cities usually prefer to forget, but Vancouver has tried to turn the one-year anniversary of the Stanley Cup riot into a positive commemoration.

Yes, there are complaints about how long it's taking to get the dozens of people charged so far through the court system. Only two people have been convicted.

And businesses and their employees are still dealing with the after-effects of the trauma.

But the city has chosen to mark the event as an example of how residents came together after those few hours where drunken hooligans owned the streets.

A noon commemoration was held Friday, the June 15 riot anniversary date at Christ Church Anglican Cathedral downtown, which was in the heart of the turmoil.

[...]////

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 8:57:28 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
Vancouver more violent than Los Angeles! LOL!

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/fallout-continues-vancouver-stanley-cup-riots-183614263.html

////Fallout continues a year after Vancouver's Stanley Cup riots
By Steve Mertl | Daily Brew - Tue, 12 Jun, 2012

Los Angeles hockey fans didn't tear up the City of Angels on Monday night when the Kings beat the New Jersey Devils 6-1 to clinch the Stanley Cup.

[...]

The riot after the Vancouver Canucks lost Game 7 of the cup final to the Boston Bruins last June 15 caused millions of dollars in damage to downtown businesses.

[...]////

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 9:05:28 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
Canadian totalitarian suppression of religion and speech.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32741

////Canada's Censor Board Forces Word TV is taken Off Air "Permanently"

Jerusalem, Israel-While travelling together in Israel as part of the Christian Ambassadors to Israel mission, 20 prominent Canadian leaders vow to fight Canada's censor board that has pressured CTS Television to remove Word TV from the air "permanently".

In December, the CRTC, through their Canadian Broadcast Standards Council began to censor Charles McVety and his television broadcast Word TV for unapproved political speech. Fearing the heavy hand of the CRTC the new corporate leadership at CTS bowed to the censors, rejected three subsequent Word TV programs for frivolous reasons and then publicly announced that CTS will no longer air the program.

Dr. McVety says "I don't know how they want me to talk. I thought I lived in a free democratic country and that political censorship was reserved for totalitarian regimes. The first thing a dictator like Hugo Chavez does is silence voices of opposition. Iran, Cuba, North Korea and other despotic regimes all move swiftly to suppress voices of dissent. Canada criticizes China heavily for human rights violations of denying free speech while Canada practices heavy handed political censorship. I am not suggesting Canada is moving toward fascism, but toward total control of the education of our children. No country on earth confuses its children as young as eight-years-old with "gender identity" teaching."

For years this Orwellian Council has attacked other Christian leaders such as James Dobson, John Hagee, Jack Van Impe, James Robison and many more however this is the first time their acts of censorship have forced a Canadian Christian leader from the air.

[...]

Dr. Pat Francis says "Tried in secret, verdict decided without an appeal process is foreign to our Canadian Society. For this to be allowed to stand as is, would be against our Canadian Democratic values and heritage as a "tolerant" society.

McVety says "This is an attack on all Christians and we will fight to defend our basic human rights afforded to us by Canada's Charter that guarantees (a) freedom of conscience and religion;(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication".

As leaders representing hundreds of thousands of Canadians, we believe the actions of CRTC, CBSC and CTS contravene the Broadcast Act and are unconstitutional. Together we call on the CRTC and Prime Minister Stephen Harper to uphold our basic human rights and to cease and desist all actions of political censorship.////

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 9:33:35 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
http://ca.askmen.com/top_10/entertainment/top-10-canadian-riots.html

////...Our history also includes several race riots, like the attack on black workers in 18th Century Nova Scotia, and the anti-Chinese riots of BC a hundred years later. The most recent riot in our history happened just last year in Montreal North. Following the fatal police shooting of 18-year-old Fredy Villanueva, youth from that area vandalized the neighbourhood in protest. However, these riots didn't quite make our top 10...

No.10 The Gastown Riots
On August 7, 1971, a crowd of 1,000 demonstrators descended on Vancouver's Maple Tree Square. The protesters were gathered to demonstrate against the use of undercover narcotics agents and support the legalization of marijuana...

No.9 Stanley Cup Playoff Victory Riot, 2008
The prize for the most asinine riot goes to the Montreal fans that decided to celebrate big when their team beat the Boston Bruins in a first-round playoff series...

No.8 Concordia Anti-Netanyahu Riot
On September 9, 2002, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was scheduled to speak at Montreal's Concordia University. That morning, a group of pro-Palestine students entered Concordia's Hall building, determined to prevent Netanyahu from speaking. The demonstration escalated into violence as demonstrators began smashing furniture and windows. Police stepped in, attacking the students with batons and pepper spray. Prior to the Concordia riot, demonstrators had said that they intended to prevent Netanyahu from speaking, even if it meant participating in civil disobedience. In as far as that, they were triumphant and the speech was canceled. These events were recorded and later presented in the NFB documentary Discordia.

Palestinian Violence trumps free speech in Canada! Good going, Canada, eh!

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 10:49:08 PM PDT
Scott Duett says:
God bless Israel!!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 16, 2012 12:51:49 AM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>I prefer to live in mine because it's home, and I like the differences such as we tend to be less violent, less divisive as a society.<<

Because you have so many beliefs about Canada that just have no basis in reality, I decided to check this one out. I got the violent crime rates for both countries...

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2011001/article/11523-eng.htm#a4

"over 437,000"

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/violent-crime/violent-crime

2010, an estimated 1,246,248 violent crimes
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population of Canada: ~33,000,000

population of US: ~313,000,000
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number of violent crimes per 1000 of population:

Canada: 437,000/33,000 = ~13 violent crimes per 1000 pop

US: 1,246,248/313,000 = ~4 violent crimes per 1000 pop
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Now, the way these crime statistics are collected by different law enforcement agencies may differ. The types of violent crimes may differ. I don't know what else may differ. And these numbers are the broadest possible category, which is "violent crimes". But it looks like violent crime in Canada is just a wee little bit higher than violent crime in the US!

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 1:40:08 AM PDT
bob397103 says:
This is UN crime data:

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sv.pdf

Grand total of recorded crimes:

Canada, 2002, all crimes per 100,000 pop: 8,025.37

US, 2002, all crimes per 100,000 pop: 4,118.76
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Something jumped out at me while I was going down the report looking for violent crimes. I'm not there yet, but Canada's kinapping rate is very, very high compared to other countries.

Total recorded kidnappings:

Kuwait 12.07: per 100,000 (the highest)
Belgium: 9.62 per 100,000 (second highest)
Canada: 9.35 per 100,000 (third place)

Those three lead the field by a mile. It doesn't say exactly what a kidnapping is. Is it a crime for ransom? Is it because of a divorce/custody thing? I don't know. Stats for the US aren't given.
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Total recorded intentional homicide, completed:

Canada: 1.67 per 100,000
US: 5.62 per 100,000
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Total recorded intentional homicide, attempted:

Canada: 2.17 per 100,000
US: NA
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Total recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm:

Canada: .46 per 100,000
US: 3.25
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Total recorded rapes:

South Africa: 115.61 per 100,000 most
Canada: 77.64 per 100,000 second
US: 32.99 third
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Total recorded robberies:

Canada: 85.13 per 100,000
US: 145.87
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Susanna says:
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