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Is History always Current History? Are there some constants in History - some traditions.


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Initial post: Jan 2, 2013 8:32:42 PM PST
Hoo-Zen!! says:
What gets me is the way the British have swallowed whole and spat out the Empire thing - all inside a century - 50 years at a pinch.

Hobsbaum always impressed and recenty was quoted well. just forget the quote.

What is the UK planning with the land grab in Antarctica?

Posted on Jan 2, 2013 8:40:19 PM PST
John M. Lane says:
Every generation writes its own history. If you look at texts from earlier generations you can see it happening.

Posted on Jan 2, 2013 8:59:58 PM PST
Hoo-Zen!! says:
I guess so. I was impressed with the generalist views that occurred in the 70's 80's and the way this gave way to more specialist histories of the 80's and 90's. Currently "How to go to War" Saul David and "The Story of Science" are specialist themes that do a really fine job of tying things to "Big Picture" views of history generally. "The Crusades" was on SBS (TV Australia) recently and gave a realistic account of the first second and third crusades as parts of a movement that occurred over two centuries. Unfortunately the author concluded some conclusions about its lack of significance in the broad scheme of things that I disagreed with. And even though the fellow had (at the beginning) a spiritual take on the events there was no sense of religion itself as a mover and shaker in History - it was more a case of the curious disposition of medieval christianity and the strategic skills of the leaders on opposing sides that was emphasised.

I am still taken by the idea of looking to the US for accounts of the UK and vice versa. I gave up on the French some time ago but the Germans have some nice work on medieval movements.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 3, 2013 11:45:48 AM PST
John M. Lane says:
I agree about the Germans. Leopold von Ranke established the discipline of scientific history. Before that, it was the grand narrative which tended to replace science with literary appeal.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 6, 2013 6:46:00 AM PST
Jeff Marzano says:
Hoo-Zen!! says:

[What is the UK planning with the land grab in Antarctica ?]

The sun never sets on the British Empire.

That was true because England grabbed countries all over the world to exploit them and take all their resources.

Wasn't that really the cause for the World Wars ? Taking from those who were weaker.

Germany. France. England. Japan. The United States. They all do it or at least have done it historically.

That's what the Viet Nam War really was, at least in my opinion. Although that was't so much taking from other countries as creating a war that nobody wanted to export violence and mass murder so Johnson and his cronies in the Military Industrial Complex could line their greedy pockets.

If Jack Ruby hadn't shot Lee Oswald the history of these United States would have turned out very differently assuming the United States still even existed. Oswald didn't last long in police custody.

Posted on Jan 6, 2013 7:00:30 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 15, 2013 11:15:12 PM PST
Hoo-Zen!! says:
Paul Simon - what a talent.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 6, 2013 7:46:26 AM PST
Hoo-Zen,

"History repeats itself". This is the main reason that's given for why we study it.
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