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In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 5:38:44 PM PDT
Dan Edson says:
The Berkey is not a pressurized system. Ice makers in refrigerators have a minimum pressure requirement to operate. Some RO systems don't have enough pressure for the ice maker, and those are pressurized.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 5:48:57 PM PDT
Dan Edson says:
Thanks Steve. It is a shame that info isn't more readily available. Those are proven technologies for chlorine removal, organic removal and biological disinfection, from my understanding.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 5:56:15 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 22, 2012 5:56:38 PM PDT
I have a 5 stage RO unit purchased on Ebay 6 years ago. It has a 100GPD rating and a 3 gallon pressurized stainless tank. I have never had a problem with it keeping my ice maker full or drawing glasses of water at the counter faucet or the fridge. I did adjust the shut-off pressure, they all are adjustable. If you are on well water and have low pressure (80 PSI or lower) you will need a booster pump for the unit if not originally supplied.

In reply to an earlier post on May 22, 2012 11:17:30 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 23, 2012 1:06:25 PM PDT
Dan, I'm confused about your post regarding minerals and rainwater.
Are you saying that rain water does not have minerals?

I don't know if drinking water is better from Vermont or Texas. What's the answer?

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 6:04:02 AM PDT
Dan Edson says:
Star,

I apologize for any confusion.

As we know, rain is formed when liquid water evaporates and condenses to form clouds. Distillation is the essentially the same process where liquid water is evaporated and then collected in a condensor. Minerals, such as calcium, sodium, potassium, do not evaporate with the water and are left behind as a solid.

Rain water is an excellent dissolver of things (which us why RO water and distilled water should not be run through copper piping). Rain water will dissolve gases into itself (such as carbon dioxide, NOx, SOx) and naturally become acidic. Each drop of rain has a dust-type particle at its core, which allows the rain drop to nucleate and form in the first place. So rain water as it falls has fine dust and is slightly acidic. However, it contains no minerlas, because the water hasn't been in contact with any minerals.

The minerals, such as calcium carbonate, are picked up from the ground as he water runs through and over rocks containing calcium carbonate (lime). Since the rain water is slightly acidic, it more easily dissolves lime. Depending on the natural rocks present, the amount of calcium (hardness) in the water will vary from location to location.

I hope that this helps some :)

In reply to an earlier post on May 23, 2012 1:35:30 PM PDT
Dan, thanks, that clarifies a lot. From your description, I see why rainwater is so much better at making plants grow, when the rain dissolves the lime, it helps the plant get access to the minerals from the ground. Or, at least that's my layman interpretation.

Three more questions:
Does that mean that when purified water goes in our bodies it breaks up the lime and gives us better access to our minerals?
Do we have innate minerals?
I thought the human source for minerals comes from the ground in what we eat or drink, no?

I'm just trying learn the best and most natural ways to reduce severe spinal degeneration. Calcium supplements or dairy products are not a fit for me.

I really appreciate your knowledge on this subject. thanks, Ellen

Posted on Jun 3, 2012 10:03:51 AM PDT
Pat S says:
We have hard water and salty (can't get worse then that) so we have a water softner for the hardness and have had three RO's I was never able to drink the water from the first two we bought the last under the sink one a GE from Home Depot for under $200 this is the first time in the ten years we've lived here that I can drink the water plus the filters are very reasonable it's not like buying a whole new RO when you have to replace them. No more bottled water....

Posted on Jun 3, 2012 12:02:34 PM PDT
I decided against a purifier for my drinking water. I have health issues of de-mineralization and dehydration (spinal, disk and bone) and finally decided on water from a natural living spring. You can find a natural spring close to you by using this map - http://www.findaspring.com.

I went to Carlbad Alkaline Water for mine (I'm in San Diego). The spring begins in Cleveland National Forest, but it travels west to Carlsbad to make it's way to the ocean, which is where Calrsbad Alkaline Water taps into it.

The water is 50˘ a gallon from a tap. I'm only on my 3rd day drinking it and I can feel that it's the real deal.

I feel it because, I drank too much of it my first and second day and am having detox symptoms. This is familiar because I've tried all kinds of detox programs and I generally get light headed and headaches if I detox too fast and too thoroughly. So I'm slowing it down to this:

16oz of Carlsbad water first thing in the morning on any empty stomach. 30 minutes doing morning stretching/exercise, then have another 16 oz and then breakfast 5 minutes later. This seems like a lot but it goes down so easy.

To slow down, I will have some of the good water and then some RO water to make up my 70oz for the day.

Purified water is better than tap but minerals get cleaned out a long with the chlorine and I need to be mineralized. Really we all do if we want our body parts to last.

I also have a purifier on the shower head and don't remember the name of it (had it for too long).

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 12:15:53 AM PDT
"If minerals in water are vital to health, then drinking fresh rain water is bad."

Not sure where you're going with that, but who subsists with their water intake purely on captured rain water? It may taste good but that doesn't mean anyone's studied what happens to live your life on it. OTOH people are putting water treatment systems in their home and if they convince themselves it's better will take it with them too to work and play.
If the system removes all minerals and the body needs these minerals then maybe it's a bad thing?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 12:37:46 AM PDT
The man-child in me almost wants to mock you for putting so much effort into this (kee-rist, it's water, just drink when you're thirsty, right?) but at age 50 (or will be in a few weeks) I find myself nearly crippled with several spinal conditions including advanced kyphoscoliosis, multiple herniated and slipped discs, and the new kicker, sciatica related to them. 15 years ago I went to Gold's gym every other day and could bench press 300 lbs, I was an animal. I'd worked on planes for the Navy, moved office furniture and repaired and customized cars for a living, my back was something I took for granted. Now walking across the room is excruciating some days, worst of them I may be curled up in a ball on the floor for hours. All of this is a little different from what you're facing with what sounds like bone loss but with that probably comes similar degradation of the spinal functions as I experience.
If I could have known and prevented this years ago I certainly would have. The body is not supposed to betray you like this, is it?
Best of luck to you, "I feel your pain" and wouldn't wish it on anyone.
(but we do have great weather! I'm in Ocean Beach 100yds from the surf.)

Posted on Jun 9, 2012 1:12:14 AM PDT
John,
I am with you, 3 flattened disks in my cervical spine and one in my lumbar. Of course sciatica is disks pushing on the nerves. The best thing I'm doing right now is decompression on my cervical spine (DRX machine). It's amazing!, My neck turns, I can be on the computer for longer. but I still need to be well hydrated for this to hold. I also use an inversion table for 20 minutes a day. If 50 hurts, don't wait till 54.

I love OB, how great to be on the water! I'm a mile east of Torry Pines, I hike there everyday (then do a second 20 minutes on the inversion table). Now I just want to be strong enough to go back to yoga.

If you find anything that works, let me in on it., take care, Ellen

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 1:39:03 AM PDT
I wish the inversion thing would have been viable for me, I had a nice unit for a couple years but only used it twice. GIRD and inversion is not a good combination, I was only about 45 degrees back and relaxed enough to doze off... I won't go into detail about what happened next but didn't risk it again. Sold the table last year.
I rarely take even ibuprofen though. Hate painkillers, may have to start though.

Posted on Jun 9, 2012 4:39:48 AM PDT
WoW ! This discussion has certainly side tracked... OOH

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2012 7:14:02 AM PDT
topicality has never been strictly enforced in Amazon forums, though accept my apology if you feel we've been disruptive. we both live in the same area and have similar health issues, we could take it to an appropriate forum but a quick exchange was all this was.
we could really get side tracked and argue about Amazon's topicality enforcement if ya like?
(point taken, thank you!)

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 30, 2013 1:57:35 PM PDT
UV and carbon filter removes all the germs, bacteria, chemicals, but not minerals. Most purifiers do not remove them all. you can get a cheapr one for about $100, but they are not effective and durable. You can get a better one for higher price and reduce the cost of long term water you buy from store, check this out,

https://www.amway.com/PDAK/Shop/Search/SearchResults.aspx?searchkeyword=espring%20carbon

Posted on Jul 22, 2013 3:36:50 PM PDT
rob goodell says:
What drinking water filter works for boron?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 29, 2013 6:42:48 AM PDT
Dan Edson says:
I would try a ion exchnage/de-ionizer for the final step of a multi-stage system with RO, particulate and activated carbon. I assume this is for drinking water only.

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 29, 2014 5:53:28 PM PDT
ellenvp says:
Thanks for you post, I am stuggling under a deluge of information and different sales presentations on soft water here in Phoenix. I like the Berkey system idea instead of an RO which wastes water and removes minerals from water (at least that's what I'm reading.) I'm not keen on 'Big Blue' to remove chlorine. One plumber is talking about a charcoal unit in addition to the water softner.I'm wondering what you have? ($2500 dollars and they tookj the loop out???? Huh?
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