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In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2010 9:02:42 AM PST
Player says:
You are correct. The topic has be done to death, but there are newbies every day. Just as we've taught english to children for a hundred years and there are books galore, new children need to be taught the basics, over and over and over and over and...

lol Happy recording! ...now how do I connect my guitar to my computer??? :)

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2010 10:50:16 AM PST
Rich says:
That was a friendly response to an abrasive post.

to connect a guitar, you need an audio to digital convertor, e.g., Presonus or M-audio. You can get them for a single channel (OK if you're recording one track at time) or multi-channel. The former is cheaper as you might imagine.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2010 11:31:21 AM PST
P. Laflamme says:
Make sure you use a "condensor" microphone. These are REALLY sensitive and will pick up all the nuances of your voice. Dynamic mics (typical) are not real sensitive and provide some feedback rejection on stage. You may need a small mixer with phantom power OR a Rolls phantom power box for it. I use a Audio Technica recording Mic. I definitely recommend going to "Frys" and spend $45.00 on home studio software since you already have a PC.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 8, 2010 1:49:31 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 8, 2010 1:50:54 PM PST
Dan S. Tong says:
Reply to Player:

Depends what you mean by "connect" which is rather ambiguous. Rich has explained that you can record your guitar (or any other sound) with a microphone and then convert the analog microphone output signal to digital using an A to D converter (analog to digital converter). What he failed to tell you is that almost certainly you already have an A to D converter if you have a sound card in your computer, and you can hook up a microphone to the microphone input of your sound card. However, if after testing the recording you feel that recording quality is not good enough you can of course purchase a sound card which will be of much higher quality and offer the possibility of working with professional quality microphones (e.g. XLR connectors, condenser microphones which require phantom power, multiple channels etc.).

Another possible meaning for "connect my guitar" would be to have your guitar act as a MIDI (musical instrument Digital Interface) controller. This would allow you to use your guitar much like a MIDI keyboard (or a MIDI wind controller) in order to provide input to a synthesizer, to have your guitar produce the sound of just about any synthesized musical instrument. To do this requires a Guitar to MIDI device, made by a number of different companies. However, this is an entirely different discussion.

Posted on Feb 8, 2010 6:49:28 PM PST
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Posted on Feb 15, 2010 3:50:19 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 15, 2010 4:02:23 PM PST
There are many solutions possible. The cheapest would be a couple of surplus P4s around 3 ghz. A Behringer mixer with USB connectivity and Ubuntu Studio.

This would give you EnergyXT(free with Mixer/interface) Audacity Rosegarden Ardour Hydrogen (drums) Creox effects, Jamin for eq/mixdown/mastering tasks. Gnome CD Master for the final CD master.

with two of such sytems Plus a couple of licenses which I needed to buy. (for copyright reasons) I have produced an album which is for sale here on Amazon and elswhere, (of course I already had keyboards guitars bass mixing boards attenuators DI boxes etc from live performance (and a place to put a studio).

Once you learn despite lack of docs in the OSS you can do a decent job for home recording.

Forgot the plug !!look at Bry Melvin in Music here on Amazon

Posted on Feb 22, 2010 7:33:49 AM PST
Mark Bendig says:
http://cheapadviceonmusic.com/2008/11/07/should-i-use-a-computer-for-my-first-home-studio/

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 22, 2010 8:11:53 AM PST
P. Laflamme says:
You already have a PC so you already have the hardware to do what you want. Audacity is free, You just need someone to set it up for you.
First install Audacity. Plug a cheap mic in the Blue hole on your sound card and play with it.
You will want a better mic and maybe a preamp but essentially that's what the rest of us do.

Posted on Feb 23, 2010 7:57:36 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 23, 2010 8:09:06 AM PST
Forphalupper says:
The two routes discussed above (computer-based, or studio-in-a-box) both have pros and cons, and I (like many others) have done both. I still have and use both types of systems. Answering the question "What's my ultimate goal" will point you to where you need to be. If your goal is primarily for your own enjoyment, with minimum 'learning curve', a studio-in-a-box is a good way to go. The technology is reasonably cheap, and the quality of sound you can achieve is very good - even, arguably, CD quality. However, if you are looking to create marketplace, high-quality recordings, with a variety of effects, bells and whistles, and flexibility, along with the inevitable learning curve, I'd recommend a powerful PC or Mac-based system. I use an older Yamaha AW-16G (studio-in-a-box) for quick, sketchpad / demo efforts, as I know the control surface well, and can be recording tracks within two minutes of sitting down at the unit. However, for my more serious efforts, I use a Dell desktop configured specifically for my studio with and M-Audio interface, and Mixcraft software, along with a bunch of mix plug-ins. Takes more setup time, and much longer to mix, but I also end up with amazing release-able recordings. So... bottom line... define your end goal, and let that dictate the route you use.

Cheers,

Forphalupper

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 23, 2010 9:27:25 AM PST
P. Laflamme says:
Whatever! She already has a PC!
Until someone get's off of their butt and actually helps her set up a way to record...let's stop talking and do something! I'm in the Dallas area. Honey, if you need me to help you I will. Let's see how many other "recording pro's" are willing to volunteer 2-3 hours to Get 'Er Done.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2010 11:32:28 AM PST
Hi, why is Cubase terrible. I'm using ProTools LE right now and it drives me nuts sometimes. I was thinking of moving over to cubase. Please let me know, my email is bhuber77 at yahoo, thx!

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 26, 2010 10:48:25 PM PST
Everyone below has good suggestions: I would just stress that you get a recorder that you can put in the right place on the piano, maybe set up a couple of mics and record yourself. That is the only way. Channel your passion, your fears, loves inyo the music, practice the songs so you can perform them beginning-to-end, and record yourself using one of the small multi-track recorders available now. I was awed by the power of the four-track cassette in the 1980's and learned on that equipment. That equipment is still available for next-to-nothing but offers a lot of possibilities if 4 tracks can be enough for what you are doing. In layered, textured keyboard mixes you can "pimg-pong" tracks from 2 or three tracks to the fourt, opening-up 3 tracks. It took forethought-planning to use a four-track but the Beatles used 4-track equipment only after years of two mono tracks.Effects are important. Good mics are important. You'll want at least two sets of over-the-ear closed headphones. These allow you to hear what is going onto tape. It acts as your monitor so you may hear yourself and anyone else playing. Having someone good with hi-fi equipment is a great help. They can play the role of engineer, placing mics, setting EQ, effects...."mixing" your inputs to a mono or two-track (or more) stereo. Also, with modern digital recorders, it has been my experience that with more features, more "bells and whistles" you get, the harder the machine is to master. I have my trusty Tascam 414mkII which is a cassette 4-track only a few years old. I know it so well that I can get results quickly. There is a very, very small amount of hiss but it has DBX noise control plus the tape moves at double-speed, increasing all performance numbers. You can always transfer the tracks to another machine if you decide to do a full "production" on it but if you listen to the demos made on two and four-track gear by, say, Pete Townshend, or Spingsteen. The message is that you can do a lot with a little, especially if you have spme non-egotistical help. The goal should be making the best song or recording of it as you can...if egos interfere, isolate that person from your work. Music must be joyous for it to flow effortlessly.

Good Luck!

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 6, 2010 4:57:49 AM PST
R. Wathen says:
You seem to have plenty of time to read threads that have been done to death. I don't generally make comments, but that was rude.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2010 5:36:29 PM PST
D. Smith says:
Obviously, A. Rosa does not have an Apple. If she did, she'd be singing a different tune (pun intended). I bought my first Apple in 'the late 80's during the days of the Mac Plus. Through the years I've upgraded to my present G5. What a screamer!! Now speed is good, but the best thing about the Macintosh is reliability. Finally, after 10 years of bucking the PC community not to mention all my PC friends, I bought a PC (remember Windows '95). That's when my troubles began. The first obstacle was transitioning to the windows environment. Although a hassle at first it was manageable. Then came the crashes. I can not tell you how many times I wanted to throw it out the window because I lost data as a result of a crash or a major problem that I fiddled with for a week, then finally reformatted the hard drive and started over. Now I use Carbonite on my PC. No need for the Mac. I remember one time on my Mac II when the audio component fried (because of dust it overheated). I got a used component on line installed it and was up and running. I have yet to take any of my Apples to the shop! Let's go one further, I can honestly say that after about 20 years not one of my Apples have ever crashed and lost data. I realize this vamp is off the subject of this forum, but it really gets my blood pressure up when I hear some one bad mouthing an Apple when they have never used one and doesn't know what the #### they are talking about.

The bottom line is you get what you pay for. My advise for those of you reading this forum and considering a home recording studio, are going to go the computer route and can afford it sacrifice on some other components and get a Mac. You'll be happier in the long run AND when the day comes that you're ready to upgrade the other equipment, the old reliable Mac is still there...screaming. As for you Samantha, I realize you simply can not afford a Mac at this time, after all they are expensive. Just remember a Macintosh is in your future!

Posted on Mar 7, 2010 6:56:27 PM PST
I just bought a used mac book pro about a month ago,dual2.5,4gig ram,for a $1000.I've never owned a computer until now,I have a nice 4track sony multi channel mini disc and it died.it was a joy to use really easy to bounce tracks,edit,etc.Garageband is 100 times more fun.I can't stay away,my thrash metal band leaves and after practice I'm up all night making techno mixes,dance-crap,raps,movies!,art-so much stuff I can't believe how fun the thing is-fun meaning no problems,constant seamless stream of creativity,without trying to figure out why my computer isn't doing exactly what I want,or didn't know I could do!!I also bought a Mackie 880i firewire mixer,which is not needed,but it allows me to record 8 tracks simultaneously to garageband or protools or any new recording software at 96khz.But hands down,garageband is so fun and good,I cant really imagine anything being THAT much easier to use-seriously,with any kind of hook-ups,plug it in and it runs and the computer remembers everything for you for next time,sooo much for me plugging apple.I was just reading this thing and wanted you guys to know how stoked I am,and glad I spent the time to learn before I spent all my money!,dave

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2010 5:41:24 PM PST
FWIW, as I'm new to the business. I've started with a Tascam 1641 interface. It works well with Vista and Windows 7. It has 16 inputs and four outputs--enough for my present use and for a long time to come. Like everyone else, I endorse the SM-57 dynamic mic.

Lastly, I've been using Reaper as a DAW for a while. I haven't mastered everything yet, but it's easy to get started. It only costs $60 for personal or small-business use, so you can afford to try it, even if you need to advance (?) to something more expensive later (I didn't want to spend $400 or more since I didn't know if I really wanted to keep working on home recording.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 13, 2010 7:07:29 AM PST
Get an updated driver from Tascam as I did. I run it on Windows 7.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 1, 2012 12:20:57 PM PST
O. V. Sparks says:
Is there a step by step guide for the NEO. I have one and the instructions that came with it are over my head. I bought the DVD but it to is a little too complicated. I am new to the home recording thing.

Posted on Mar 3, 2012 6:26:38 AM PST
KBIC says:
Everyone has their own way of getting it done.

Here is what I use and have never had a problem with:
Dell Inspiron E1705 laptop
Mbox 2
M-Audio Axium 49 key
Art tube preamp
MXL condenser mic
Propellerheads Reason 6

Posted on Mar 11, 2012 8:34:58 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 11, 2012 8:40:37 PM PDT
the cheapest way to go would be to get

-[Behringer ULTRAVOICE XM1800S Dynamic Cardioid Vocal Microphones, 3-Pack]

-[Speaker and Headphone Splitter] (i know its a headphone splitter but if u put it in the mic input it will work fine)

-[Double Boom Type Microphone Stand + Clips] to hold a mic for the guitar while holding a mic for vocals

-[Audio Cable 1/8" TRS Stereo to XLR ] to put in the splitter

just copy and paste the names in brackets directly in the amazon search bar there are multiple options for each

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 12, 2012 3:51:04 PM PDT
You should try out Acoustica software, a cheap way to record music at home.

Best,

Jessica Brandon
USA Songwriting Competition
http://www.songwriting.net

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 18, 2012 7:01:01 AM PDT
A great, inexpensive way to connect your guitar to your computer is to buy the M-Audio Audiophile 192. Less than $150, and it not only has 1/4" Stereo audio outs (which in my case go directly to my Yamaha HS 80M Studio monitors - giggity!), but has balanced Stereo ins (which is what you would plug your guitar into), as well as DIGITAL in/out, and MIDI in/out. In addition, it has onboard ASIO capability, which reduces your latency (or 'delay' from the time you pluck a string to the time you hear it come through your speakers) to almost NOTHING - very critical. Also, M-Audio is EXTREMELY reliable. In addition, the Audiophile 192 is capable of an audio resolution of 192kHz, which is far above studio CD quality.

I would strongly recommend AGAINST buying a USB guitar interface. Unless the interface is explicitly USB 3.0, you're going to have latency issues and sound issues. Firewire interfaces are also to be shunned, save for explicitly FireWire 800 interfaces.

Posted on Mar 18, 2012 9:03:04 PM PDT
Jake says:
Get a digitech jamman! Those things are awesome! The solo is only $164 dollars and can record 16 hours on a sd card which can go right into your computer! Have fun recording! :)

Posted on Mar 19, 2012 9:12:38 AM PDT
Gene D. Hout says:
Get an Allesis 6 usb interface for about 100 bucks down load one of the free programs in the post mentioned and go for it. The usb device uses your sound device on your computer so no drivers needed makes it easy to set up . As you learn you can but cubase online from ebay cheap enough and it's great software.I recomend Cubase 5 or newer when you get use to computer software.It has many effects add ons.

Posted on Mar 27, 2012 8:42:39 PM PDT
Don says:
I like my little tascam DP-004 Porta-studio 4-track recorder. No pc required to record, only headphones or monitors to re-play. Of course it does hook up to a pc with a usb cable to load your final mixes onto your pc.
It's a relatively simple to use old fashioned style 4 track recorder with built-in mics that records in stereo and sounds great. All your recording and mixing procedures are done "off-line" the old fashioned way, but with the ability to re-mix later as needed if and when you decide to.
$179.00 at Guitar Center or Musicians Friend.
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