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Initial post: May 17, 2011 4:51:17 PM PDT
Amazon recently created a new community for authors. The `Meet Our Authors' community is designed to give authors a space to engage with one another and promote their latest and greatest works.

With the advent of the new community, we will no longer allow self promotional posts in other communities. Starting on Saturday, May 14th, all "shameless self promotion" activity will be limited to the `Meet Our Authors' community. Promotional threads outside of these forums will be removed.

We invite authors and interested readers to come join the discussion at:

http://www.amazon.com/forum/meet%20our%20authors

We look forward to seeing you!

Posted on May 25, 2011 9:35:11 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 25, 2011 9:35:30 AM PDT
Nick Jones says:
What about promotional spam in other threads? These pests are still posting in discussion threads.

Posted on May 29, 2011 7:39:28 AM PDT
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Posted on Jun 12, 2011 7:56:51 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 12, 2011 4:16:19 PM PDT
C. Hall says:
Nick Jones says:
[quote]What about promotional spam in other threads? These pests are still posting in discussion threads. [/quote]

Exactly! I suspect this is total malarkey! I have not seen one single self-promoting post by an author actually REMOVED by Amazon since this announcement was first posted in some communities MAY 14th!

In fact it has increased in the Young Adult Community(where I also visit) and this announcement wasn't even stickied there,and now cannot even be found!

In fact of all the communities I visit this announcement was either not even placed there and/or it has since already been removed. Anyone can check for themselves. Browse the communities and see if you can find this announcement stickied to the top of the forum,and pay attention to how the authors are still SPAMMING almost every thread in the forums!

Makes me determined to never purchase a book by them!

There are only 3 communities with this announcement! Historical Romance, this one. and Science Fiction,what does THAT tell you!

Posted on Jun 12, 2011 2:23:24 PM PDT
Nick Jones says:
"...what does THAT tell you!"
Um, that everybody and his brother thinks they can successfully write in those genres? And that they'll litter these threads to do so?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 12, 2011 2:44:43 PM PDT
recluse says:
Well, yes.
Yes it does.
You know what these threads need?
A vigilante.
I nominate Nick.

Posted on Jun 13, 2011 9:52:24 AM PDT
Hahaha Amazon Forums Vigilante, that's gonna look good on his resume. This thread is also on the Fantasy forums if I remember correctly.

What I noticed is that after they posted it, even though they are not enforcing the new policy the spam methods changed a bit. In one of the threads I saw a brilliant new kind of spam. A guy who had never posted here before created a new post listing his favourite books, the list consisted of books by Stephen King, Laymon, Lovecraft (the nerve!), etc and a book by an unknown author. One couldn't help but go check who is this unknown author who made the list with those titans, just to find out the book was published just a couple of weeks ago and it's only available on Kindle and it has only a couple of reviews (5 stars of course...).

I was giving it the benefit of the doubt but then a couple of posts down the thread he overdid it and said something like "I stayed up all night reading [book name]". Close but no cigar... After that I saw the same thing being done on another thread here and a couple of threads on the fantasy forums too.

Maybe I hate this kind of stuff with a passion because I was a Robert Stanek victim a decade ago but still, if I see it being done I make a mental note to never ever buy the book no matter how promising it looks.

Posted on Jun 13, 2011 10:24:27 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 14, 2011 11:21:58 AM PDT
C. Hall says:
Nope this so-called announcement is not in the Fantasy Community,or it isn't now,but perhaps it was and they have removed it already like they did from the Young Adult Forum-I'm a grandma who likes to check books for myself and my granddaughter. That was the first place I saw it,but it is no longer there and that community is the absolute WORST I've seen for these self-promoting SPAMMERS!

Amazon is just "Blowing Smoke" with this FARCE of an announcement!

I have spent a LOT of money here since '94,but it is no longer enjoyable to browse the threads looking for book recommendations,and when a company I do business with BLATANTLY lies to the public,I think it's time to shop elsewhere,like BookFinder4U.

Posted on Jun 17, 2011 7:17:24 AM PDT
A.Rosaria says:
I am an indie author, and to tell the truth I missed the announcement the day it was made, but since the next day, I didn't post in these self promotion threads.

I do understand the frustration of noticing nothing having changed. I feel the same about it. It is not wise or nice to burden others if it's made clear it's not desirable. It's also bad that Amazon won't enforce their own policy, as long they don't there will always be author's who will ignore this policy, and they will be giving those that do adhere to the policy a bad name.

If there is a place designated for authors to post they should stick to that, and if it doesn't suit them they should seek another venue to advert their work. It's bad business pissing up your clientele.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2011 7:28:19 AM PDT
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Posted on Jun 17, 2011 7:41:58 AM PDT
NYWriter says:
I'm also an indie author and am very happy about this. And I would give it a minute to take effect before saying it doesn't work. I didn't see the announcement immediately when posted, but then again I have been sticking to self-promotion threads and really trying not to be a good citizen of the community ... whatever it happens to be!

I'm sure this will be a step in the right direction as the rules are clear.

Posted on Jun 17, 2011 8:20:20 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 17, 2011 8:27:55 AM PDT
C. Hall says:
I would say that an entire month later is certainly longer than a minute for this announcement to work!

It will never work until 'everyone' starts reporting these 'Self-Promoting' SPAMMING TROLLS, and Amazon starts enforcing it !

Check out how bad the Young Adult Community is. If a thread had any new posts, you can wager they are by these RUDE Self-Promoters,in fact almost every thread there is filled by posts by the SAME ONES over and over and over and over, regardless of their book having nothing whatever to do with the genre of book titles being requested!

Amazon did have this announcement posted there on May 14th but didn't even bother to "stickie" it so it started moving down the forum and now it it completely disappeared from the forum!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2011 8:22:54 AM PDT
I have nothing against indie authors promoting their books as long as it's done correctly and in the proper place.

Creating fake accounts to act as people who read the book and found it so good that they must hit the boards and make everyone else a "convert" is what really grinds my gears. Besides most of the time this kind of thing is done so poorly that it sticks out like a broken thumb.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2011 4:53:54 PM PDT
NYWriter says:
I'm with you on this one!

Truthfully, I haven't plowed through many threads to see exactly what's going on. I agree that if a discussion is going on and an author breaks in for a promotion and ducks out, it's annoying. However, if someone has asked for recommendations and doesn't put a capper on who may respond, don't see a problem.

I like this arrangement. And a month isn't enough time because I just found out two days ago! I don't frequent the discussions that much except for the ones I post in. I go right to my saved links and don't look for announcements. Happened to find this one only today.

I don't think everyone is as clueless as I am, but I offer it up as an example.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 17, 2011 5:57:43 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 17, 2011 6:27:50 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 17, 2011 6:30:40 PM PDT
C. Hall says:
Yep,that's EXACTLY the way I feel,the same as I feel about telemarketers! If you have a product that would interest me I will find it without you getting in my face!

I know this to be a fact because a SELF-PUBLISHED author who I enjoy very much and she does not go around pushing her books,and she doesn't need to,because whenever I do a search for "clean Romance" her books come up. I'm speaking of Marcia Lynn McClure BTW.

So no one has to invade anyone's threads hawking their books. Whoever is interested in the genre you have written,your book can be found. How many genre search results when you click on the "tags" that interest you include books that may have only one or even no reviews?
So there is absolutely no excuse in TROLLING the threads in the forums! Your book can be found without you posting in every thread in an entire forum!All that does is tick everyone off and make them sick of seeing your greed and making them determined to never even consider reading your book,not even for FREE!

So hopefully the next step Amazon will take is to ban all those authors who do not abide by their TOS and GOOD RIDDANCE! Hopefully soon the forums will get back to being the enjoyable place to browse for book suggestions like they use to be before the SPAMMING TROLL invasion!

Posted on Jun 18, 2011 2:19:07 PM PDT
Nick Jones says:
As of right now, 5:16 EDT, June 6, 2011, there is yet another self promotion thread in the forums. And once again I will copy and paste the new rules in the thread, tell them I am going to report them, and use the ignore button.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2011 3:07:52 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 18, 2011 3:38:04 PM PDT
C. Hall says:
Good For you Nick! If I knew which thread it was in I would do the same!

Posted on Jun 18, 2011 5:13:04 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 18, 2011 5:23:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 19, 2011 9:21:51 AM PDT
C. Hall says:
I think Amazon should totally just ban all "Self-Promotion"! If an author's book is on Amazon, it can be found by a genre or tag search.

After all doesn't everyone dislike all those braggarts who "toot their own horn"?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 18, 2011 5:39:27 PM PDT
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Posted on Jun 18, 2011 5:48:47 PM PDT
C. Hall says:
Greymung the Direct , not passive... says:
[quote]i think amazon should ban all off topic chat.
if the topic is not directly related to a specific product no one should be talking.[/quote]

Yeah, beginning with every one of your SNARKY posts in this thread where not a single one is about Amazon's announcement,so every one is "OFF-TOPIC"!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 19, 2011 8:30:04 AM PDT
Becky.horror says:
LOL i love reading these posts, it makes me laugh - i only track one thread these days due to the endless self promotion, ironically if your having to sneak in a self promoting book in a thread you clearly need to be a better author, or even (god forbid) get a bloody publisher!

If you dont like threads that have a bit of chatter in them - which without would deny a friendly 'community' and therefore a comfortable place to express your views, then dont go on the bloody thread!
Or - just look past them, it really isnt that hard, you just use the scroll button on your keypad . . . and yes iam being sarcastic.
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