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Interpreting Translators of the Qur'an came in three waves at times of confrontation between the East and the West


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Posted on Feb 7, 2014 5:57:23 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Feb 7, 2014 5:59:22 AM PST
The Society for Scriptural Reasoning (SSR) is a network of Jewish, Christian and Muslim scholars promoting religious readings of scriptures within the Academy. Members of SSR believe that the Abrahamic religions share a common habitus: the reading of scripture-however diverse our traditions and theologies. The SSR gathers religion and text scholars into a conversation in which the richness and depth of these diverse readings can be uncovered, discussed, and interpreted. Philosophical and other disciplines of reasoning have served as essential instruments of our dialog, but they do not set the agenda. The agenda is set by the words of scripture and by the ways they speak to our urgent concerns and reform our personal and communal lives.
http://jsr.lib.virginia.edu/statement-of-purpose/

Posted on Jul 16, 2012 6:54:11 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Apr 29, 2012 12:03:50 PM PDT
Domenico says:
I accept what is being published by Muslims. If they do it then I HAVE TO do it.

You, as a dreamer, dream of what it "should" be... and, as you explain, accept only texts that are praiseworthy of YOUR idea of Mohammed.

But then again, you will point to what you dismiss now as valid if it helps with whatever you want to "prove'' tomorrow.

I'm used to Muslims' non-sense in regards to the islamic "science"

It doesn't look good on you to tell people, in a forum !!!, what they know or who they are. It's childish and looks like a tantrum. Get a hold of you.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 29, 2012 8:00:52 AM PDT
winoceros says:
Let's say, for the sake of logical argument (which you will not understand but others will) this is an unreliable hadith.

Why would someone, devoted to Islam and admiring of
Mohammad, write this about him if it were not an admirable story?

Were there hordes of early Muslims whose writings, though lies, were worthy of writing down and retaining for a thousand years? Why keep false tales if they didn't portray the very characteristics scholars wished to advertise about their prophet? Why not just omit them?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 29, 2012 6:29:24 AM PDT
winoceros says:
Whoever told you that book-reading is a science defrauded you.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 29, 2012 6:26:53 AM PDT
winoceros says:
He didn't. He had them killed through subterfuge and night murder. This is a hero of yours?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 10:51:47 PM PDT
You have no clue about hadith science, so you accept any text as long as it fits your hateful preconceptions.

Posted on Apr 28, 2012 8:09:22 PM PDT
Take a shower before reading the book. Fresh water might give rise to fresh thoughts !

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 8:04:21 PM PDT
bob397103 says:
>>"The purpose of being different is to regenerate and envigour life, the best among us are those who use their resources to better humanity".<<

I'm amazed any university would publish such nonsense.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

////The downside of diversity
A Harvard political scientist finds that diversity hurts civic life. What happens when a liberal scholar unearths an inconvenient truth?By Michael Jonas | August 5, 2007

IT HAS BECOME increasingly popular to speak of racial and ethnic diversity as a civic strength. From multicultural festivals to pronouncements from political leaders, the message is the same: our differences make us stronger.

But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings.

"The extent of the effect is shocking," says Scott Page, a University of Michigan political scientist.

The study comes at a time when the future of the American melting pot is the focus of intense political debate, from immigration to race-based admissions to schools, and it poses challenges to advocates on all sides of the issues. The study is already being cited by some conservatives as proof of the harm large-scale immigration causes to the nation's social fabric. But with demographic trends already pushing the nation inexorably toward greater diversity, the real question may yet lie ahead: how to handle the unsettling social changes that Putnam's research predicts.

"We can't ignore the findings," says Ali Noorani, executive director of the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition. "The big question we have to ask ourselves is, what do we do about it; what are the next steps?"

[...]////

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 7:49:38 PM PDT
Domenico says:
[You are NEXT to Mohammad!]

I wish. Then'd I'd know how to suffer fools with grace.'''''

Like THIS ????

'''When the apostle heard what she had said he said,
"Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?"
Umayr b. Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her.
In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he [Muhammad] said,
"You have helped God and His apostle, O Umayr!"
When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said,

"Two goats won't butt their heads about her".................

...Islamic Grace...

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 6:34:09 PM PDT
\\You are NEXT to Mohammad!\\

I wish. Then'd I'd know how to suffer fools with grace.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 2:15:47 PM PDT
Domenico says:
Sounds noble.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 2:13:05 PM PDT
Domenico says:
Bizarre, how bizarre

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 1:07:18 PM PDT
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libloon2 says:
Bookish says://...but you are murder most foul.//

OH, now I UNDERSTAND!
Golly, you just had to say: "murder most foul" - I should have known!

You are, as in verses of the Koran:22:14-18 "We have revealed the Koran in clear verses. God gives guidance to whom He will."

You are NEXT to Mohammad!

Posted on Apr 28, 2012 1:03:38 PM PDT
Are we made different so that we fight and impose on each other or so that we enjoy contrasting beauty of different colors and shades of humanity ? "The purpose of being different is to regenerate and envigour life, the best among us are those who use their resources to better humanity".
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/journals/ssr/issues/volume5/number1/ssr05_01_e01.html

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 1:01:14 PM PDT
I should be doing more useful things but you are murder most foul.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:59:47 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Apr 28, 2012 1:01:09 PM PDT
libloon2 says:
Bookish says: //I don't have time to spoon feed you."//

GOLLY, then WHY do you even take the time to post your replies?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:57:54 PM PDT
libloon2 says:
Bookish says: //before you claim the consensus is the position of Pamela Geller.//

//and no amount of clarity from me will help.//

How do WE know, unless you try to make your point? Which, evidently, you won't.
(Unless it is that we are "prejudiced" and so forth.)

Who said anything about Pamela Geller? You tell ME who she is. Please.

You say - WHAT?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:17:34 PM PDT
\\Pretending not to know WHY the declaration is rejected by Muslims ??\\

Why not just throw in into everyone's face?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:16:07 PM PDT
\\If I wind up in an Islamic hell for following my own convictions, so be it. At least the company will be superior to Islamic heaven. \\

Given all of your statement, good luck with that.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:04:12 PM PDT
Domenico says:
You didn't read it. Title sounds... pretty?

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 12:03:43 PM PDT
Domenico says:
''''Look at the description and peek inside the TOC and some pages. ''''

I did. Same old same old... LOL

Freedom IF permissible under Islam. LOL

Are you sure that YOU read it ?? It certainly doesn't look like.
What?
You keep a list of titles on your sleeve and post from time to time what that sounds good to potential victims of islam ??

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 11:51:54 AM PDT
Domenico says:
I read it. LOLOL
That's why I keep sticking it in your eyes.
Pretending not to know WHY the declaration is rejected by Muslims ??

Foxy fox ??

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 11:44:26 AM PDT
Bookish,
By the standards of OUR religions, opposing what we see as evil doesn't consign us to hell. OUR religions, for the most part, recognize the responsibility for individuals to recognize good and evil. It's your religion that set concrete, never-changing standards centurites ago and DEMANDS that everyone in the world conform to them, or exist as second class resident in their own countries.

If I wind up in an Islamic hell for following my own convictions, so be it. At least the company will be superior to Islamic heaven.

In reply to an earlier post on Apr 28, 2012 11:28:28 AM PDT
\\Now, if what YOU see in the book comes close to what we think cuts to the nut of the discussion, of course we might well look into the book.\\

I just have to tell you what you ask for is there. I don't have time to spoon feed you.
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