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In reply to an earlier post on May 4, 2012 6:27:01 AM PDT
Thanks for that post, Warren. Very interesting from my perspective.
Peter Campbell.

Posted on May 4, 2012 6:34:11 AM PDT
We don't often discuss the jazz that comes out of Latin America except perhaps with the exceptions of Brazil and Cuba. However, jazz has always had a footing South of the border.
Back in 1940, Argentinian violinist, Hernan Oliva, formed his first swing band. He stayed active until his death in 1988 leading a variety of jazz aggregations with a special focus on swing and gypsy jazz groups. The famed Oscar Aleman was in his band for many years.
Check him out via YouTube especially if you are into gypsy jazz.

Posted on May 4, 2012 1:46:57 PM PDT
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Larkinfield says:
One of my favorites out of the Latin countries:
Flora Purim with Airto and Ron Carter: Stories to Tell

Posted on May 6, 2012 3:26:46 PM PDT
Now in is 94th year, Cuban piano player and composer, Bebo Valdes, father of Chucho is surely one of Cuba's greatest ever musicians. All that he has warranted so far in this forum is two skimpy mentions whilst other lesser talents have received scores of, often unmerited, accolades. Yep! he's surely a forgotten (or never heard of) man by the majority of members of this forum.

Posted on May 7, 2012 7:31:09 AM PDT
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I recently became intrigued by the work of the truly forgotten bebop trumpeter, Doug Mettome who was highly respected by Miles and the only white musician to be part of the great bebop band which Billy Eckstein led, which fact alone has to say something about his musicianship. That he was was the only white cat in that band must have been an interesting experience. He was at other times in his short life (he died at aged 38) in one of Woody's bands, in the short lived Benny Goodman bebop band and with Tommy Dorsey. He did record with that Goodman aggregation for Capitol, with Woody, with Pete Rugolo and on the Urbie Green LP, "The Language of Urbie Green" and as a sideman on a few other occasions. There are some clips of Doug with the Urbie Green Sextet and with BG on YouTube. The Urbie clip has an interesting few bars blown by the most recorded artist in jazz, Danny Bank but no solo from Doug. But, in this clip one can hear why Danny was first call bari man for a zillion years and played on no less than 3,000 recordings. The BG "Bebop" Sextet version of "Blue Lou" does give Doug a chance to show his paces.Check 'em out!

Posted on May 8, 2012 4:30:28 AM PDT
BeBop says:
And when you check out Mettome with Goodman, listen up for Wardell Gray (roughly overlapping times in the BG orchestra and small groups). No, Wardell isn't forgotten, so I've wandered off topic to this thread.

Posted on May 11, 2012 11:20:24 AM PDT
Not quite forgotten because he has had a few passing mentions in these threads is American pianist Eric Watson. Probably because he has lived in France for many years, Eric is virtually unknown in the country of his birth yet in France is something of a megastar, on a par probably with Keith Jarrett. His work is definitely worth checking out.

Posted on May 11, 2012 7:55:07 PM PDT
willm says:
Sam Rivers,Sonny Simmons,Sunny Murray(just to start-'into alliteration :-)

Posted on May 12, 2012 1:53:33 AM PDT
KRenee says:
Eddie Chamblee -Tenor Sax and at times - the Eddie Chamblee Trio around Chicago and Indianapolis. Played with Dinah Washington (and married her), Lionel Hampton... In later years, played in New York City at the Blue Note on 3rd Street. He passed around the early 2000s in his late 70s - in New York.

In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 3:26:01 AM PDT
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I remember Eddie. Saw him perform with Lionel on a U.K. tour in the 50's. He was a honker and screamer. I did a quick check on Amazon's listings and found that there is some of his work outside the band available though not too much. The recording that he did with the Harlem Jazz and Blues Band hasn't, apparently, been released in the CD format as yet. That's one that I'd like, even on vinyl.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 12, 2012 11:38:17 PM PDT
Sunny Murray is still active (as far as I know) -- I saw him perform once & he was a fantastic drummer but a somewhat unpleasant person.

Sonny Simmons, I'd like to know about. I used to live in San Francisco in the 90s and one lovely evening (a rare warm evening there, in fact) I saw/heard Simmons playing solo sax on the street downtown.

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Posted on May 15, 2012 10:59:17 AM PDT
@Bebop Man: DIG THIS! PAT MARTINO has a NEW CD out, on either the Savant or HighNote label!

re: Kai Winding - NOT that I'm knocking him, but didn't KW put out some of those "34 Trombones in Stereo"-type MOR albums in the 60s? That might've caused his stock in the jazz market to plummet a little...btw, his son Jai played keyboards on some of the early Cheap Trick (a fine rock combo from Rockford, IL) albums!

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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 2:02:28 PM PDT
KW died in 1983: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Winding

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In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 1:31:26 PM PDT
YOUR POINT is...? Simply because YOU haven't heard of them does not mean that they do not "matter" to the general community of jazz-heads.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 10:43:10 PM PDT
willm says:
If you can find a copy of Sonny Simmon's 'Transcendence',grab it,meanwhile there are copies of(all OOP)

Ancient Ritual

Burning Spirits

American Jungle

In reply to an earlier post on May 18, 2012 12:31:23 PM PDT
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Zolar Waka says:
Oh yeah, and his stuff with Prince Lasha. Also: Have you heard this? The Traveller? Brilliant!
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