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Initial post: May 16, 2012 6:08:07 AM PDT
Anyone familiar with a vocal version on this title? It dates from Ted Lewis & His Band on Columbia 2798, January, 1920 (Whitburn's Pop Memories book). Ted Lewis's version is an instrumental. Looking for an Lp track or 45, other artists. I have a reference to:

Don Francks, "Blues My Naughty Sweetie Gives to Me"/"One of Those Songs" A&M 802. Uncharted 45 single, May, 1966.

No idea of the Don Francks 45 is a vocal on this. I have the Glen Campbell track on his OLD HOME TOWN Lp, but I wonder where it came from. A really odd choice, an ancient song, just strange how it got on a Glen Campbell album.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 12:16:59 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 7:49:43 PM PDT
I thought Paul Whiteman, Guy Lombardo, Red Nichols, Ted Lewis, etc... were jazz. At least they were in the 1920s.

Posted on May 16, 2012 8:20:27 PM PDT
CJBx7 says:
Yeah, Ted Lewis, if not strictly a jazz musician himself, does have connections to jazz through the members of his band, one of whom was Benny Goodman, as well as Muggsy Spanier, Jimmy Dorsey, and George Brunis. Lewis played a style of clarinet dating back to vaudeville days, influenced by the early novelty jazz of bands like the Original Louisiana Five. He was a member of Earl Fuller's Famous Jazz Band, and although now their style recalls vaudevillian novelty music to us, it does have its roots in New Orleans via the influence of the Original Dixieland Jazz Band.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 9:57:10 PM PDT
E. Dill says:
Son of Flintstone:

I did a little checking around the net....I love searching for music. I went to www.gemm.com (not the best for bargains necessarily, but they have a lot of obscure stuff....they had some 45's of the song but couldn't tell if any had a vocal.

I went to www.allmusic.com and plugged in the name of the song and then under it "song" (as opposed to artist or album). You get more hits if you spell the song name without the parenthesis for some reason. Anyway, I got 179 "hits" and in clicking on them, found at least two that are surely vocals....one by Bing Crosby and one by Nat King Cole (as a vocalist, not as a jazz trio bandleader)...the Crosby album, "It's a Good Day (a 2005 compilation) was selling on http://www.amazon.com for like 50 cents. The Cole album was quite expensive, I guess. (it said they had one album and quoted two prices?). If you wish to pursue the NK Cole album, you may wish to look at www.half.com, too, to see who has the better price. The album is titled "Bed Time".

Anyway, back to www.allmusic. I surely didn't analyze all 179 "hits". Many are repeats and most are bands (jazz, etc.), so whether they have vocals or not would require some research.

Anyway, go for it if you're interested. The Bing album sounds like a steal.

ed.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 5:35:48 AM PDT
So far I've come up with, of all things, a track on an RCA 1952 Dinah Shore SINGS THE BLUES album and 1966 (?) Judy Henske Lp on Mercury. I'm thinking about the Dinah Shore reissue on CD....

I've bought several 45s on gemm.com. Nice place to look, but can be expensive. I like to research what I'm looking for quietly and pick it/them off before anyone else catches on. I've had several years of a certain "frenemy" fighting with me on Ebay and when this person gets a copy likes to blow it as loud as possible on the internet (a certain message board). Several of us other record hoarding nuts pass info around among ourselves without alerting you-know-who so we can fish out a water hole before the Ebay sharks catch on. It's like spying: playing a double game on one's enemies, sending out false leads, bidding them up to clean out their wallet on something easy then dropping out, heh, heh, heh, and picking off something far more interesting on-the-cheap. Ebay is running the same decline that I noticed in the mid-late '80s with GOLDMINE magazine--interesting odd stuff went away and the mag (at the time) tried to run off anyone who knew the real good stuff to cater to schmucks, flatter potential newer collectors that a $3 used record shop staple was suddenly worth $10 and up.

Posted on May 17, 2012 7:23:03 AM PDT
I think I found it: Jim Kweskin & the Jug Band. All the lyrics line up. Thank you, Garrett H. Kiefer for the info.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 8:01:21 AM PDT
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E. Dill says:
@Son of Flintstone:

<<GOLDMINE magazine--interesting odd stuff went away and the mag (at the time) tried to run off anyone who knew the real good stuff to cater to schmucks>>

I remember, during a period of real interest in scouring used record stores, going to one in NYC and finding an old record of Doris Day's material. It was going for $50 or so. What to think? For schmucks? I guess it all boils down to whether you are buying it because you like the sound of Doris Day or if you buy it as an investment....its worth on the market as a "hard to find" album. I've never bought ANYTHING for its potential resale value. But, for me, as always, "the good stuff" is as personal as it gets. If you truly love Doris Day's way with a lyric, good for you and that $50 might be a steal to you.

I'm sure there have been times in my life (I'm 65), where I did sound/act superior in my tast to someone else's. I don't anymore. If someone loves Yanni it only means we probably won't be going to any concerts together. Unless, of course, he/she also loves PJ Harvey. You never can tell what anyone's own "mix" of musical favorites are unless they choose it not for their personal listening pleasure but for how "hip" it is to like it....its cachet. I like avant garde jazz, modern classical music and garage rock and, yes, I'd rather listen to Sam the Sham than Beethoven, although, if I could pick the right 3 minute segment from one of his symphonies, in the right mood it could be a close call. Sam the Sham vs. John Zorn might be a toss up though.

Taste is a funny thing. I used to go into used record stores with a friend who had some similar tastes to mine and one of us would invariably see something and shout out "hey, I just found a bargain for you....that Bobby Goldsboro's Greatest Hits album you've been looking for...only $5". The notion was to embarrass our "friend" and but really let everyone within earshot KNOW how hip we probably were, liking what we SHOULD like and showing disdain for the garbage. I stopped doing that a long time ago. It suggested that there was an objective sense of what was "art" and what was "trash", musically speaking. I don't make those distinctions. My garage rock is just as important to me as my avant garde jazz.

Sorry I got carried away here. I guess I was partly responding to a post you made elsewhere where you were talking about a musical strategy to rid yourself of the morons in a mall by shoving "artistic" music on them. (The "How and When Did You Get Into Jazz" topic) Those people who scurried away were probably saying to themselves, "I hated to go but that crap they were listening to was real garbage. I wonder if someone told them they should like it".

I've always wondered if someone took movie of the average audience at a classical concert how many of the patrons there would be yawning their asses off, fighting sleep. I've known a few people who clearly went to such concerts because it was expected of intelligent people to do so. They'd go home and listen to folk music, their real joy.

I'm very suspicious of the "grading of art" as to its intellectual worthiness. But that's just me. If I had taken up a musical instrument and maybe even classes in composition, etc., I may too have become more like a woman on another board who was more taken by the clever structure of a piece of music than the actual sound of it. I always say "but listening to music is an auditory experience". And I get "maybe to YOU it is".

ed.

Posted on May 17, 2012 8:19:37 AM PDT
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I used to sell through both Goldmine and Discoveries. Got an article published, too. Goldmine was pushing $10 and up to justify raising its ad rates; it was due to Krause publications catering towards "professional" dealers and discouraging amateurs. $3 for a Carly Simon Lp from the early '70s, but the record price guides were just coming out and listing easy stuff for $10-15. When Jerry Osborne was putting together his C&W guide, c. 1984, he sent me printouts of a bunch of my favorite artists, Johnny Cash, Glen Campbell, Sonny James, Marty Robbins. I corrected them and sent them back. He uniformly multiplied everything I sent him by a factor of three. After that I corresponded with some of my friends (we were p***ed about the inflation catering to mail order dealers), and we took a lot of common stuff on the next go-around with his guide and put ridiculous prices for mid-'60s major label titles. They went right in there. I still get used record shop guys try to massage me with "rare" 1980s Waylon Jennings, when I'm looking for his pre-'75 titles.

Taste? I have none, in some things. Bobby Goldsboro hits comps leave off something I'm looking for: "A Butterfly for Bucky."

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 9:48:09 PM PDT
willm says:
Although I'm a misanthrope,I LOVE Glen Campbell!!!

this is SOOO good

the guitar break almost qualifies as jzzz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AjVTwzL3sg

I'm sorry for her family and all,but I still hate Donna Summer

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Posted on May 18, 2012 1:01:23 AM PDT
I'm done on this thread. Kaputzki. Got my answer. THANK YOU FOLKS!

In reply to an earlier post on May 18, 2012 4:54:34 AM PDT
willm says:
what is the answer? 'been lookin' all my days,fred flintstone,jr

where's bam-bam?

In reply to an earlier post on May 18, 2012 2:11:20 PM PDT
My impaired brother, Bam Bam, who's been 8 years old for the last 43 years, still lives with me.

In reply to an earlier post on May 19, 2012 1:34:14 PM PDT
E. Dill says:
@misanthrope:

<<I'm sorry for her family and all, but I still hate Donna Summer>>

I'm assuming it's her music you hated and not her. I've often had the notion that she was a singer known for disco that was liked by many people who hate disco. I still think that may be true.

I don't hate disco but it has to be one of my least favorite genres during the rock era. I've tried. I probably have most of the better compilations of disco music....the so called best of the best. I also have artist albums of those I have more affection for like Summer, Chic, Pet Shop Boys (ok, dance and disco aren't the same and I'm not sure what to call them), etc.

BTW, I wonder if Summer could dance? I mean, I don't remember her really doing any dance steps in her videos or on tv. Same with Whitney Houston, although she did try to do something like dancing on that first hit of hers.

I guess what REALLY bothered me most about disco was the use of violins. It usually irritated me, took whatever edge off the beat, rhythm, etc. I mean, violins CAN be used successfully in rock/pop music (even the Beatles used them successfully at times) but with disco, it seldom worked for me. Hey, that's what I liked. Stripped down disco.

ed.

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