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*That* scene in the Miles autobiography with Charlie Parker in the taxi.


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Initial post: Mar 4, 2012 3:13:52 AM PST
Art Johnson says:
Don't think it'd be decent to repeat on this forum but for those who have read the book: what was up with that part? Disturbing. I just re-read the book after having forgotten most of it and that part struck me as utterly bizarre.

Posted on Mar 4, 2012 3:42:52 PM PST
PGM says:
What,eating fried chicken?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2012 7:13:55 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 5, 2012 2:53:45 PM PST
Art

- I haven't read the book and don't know the story, please post a summary.

Posted on Mar 5, 2012 9:02:26 AM PST
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Rasmus,
Some members may be "jaded" but not all. Some of us still have the same enthusiasm for jazz that we have had since we first came across the music and latched on to it. Nothing will change that and with such a vibrant and always advancing music, I cannot see that changing. Perhaps, you should explain why you made that remark about forum members.
As for Mile's autobiography, I have not the slightest interest in reading such a document which received a general thumbs down from the critics when it was first published. Thankfully. there is a wealth of really excellent books on the subject and, despite the relatively small number of people that buy them, more keep being written. You have only to scan the Amazon lists to see what is currently available.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 5, 2012 3:06:45 PM PST
Mr. P. Campbell

I'm sorry about my insulting remark. It was a bad attempt at joking. I have removed the offensive statement and hope you accept my apology.

Posted on Mar 5, 2012 3:22:22 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 5, 2012 3:28:08 PM PST
I was not offended by Rasmus' comments as I took them to mean that we have been enured (jaded?) of offensive personal behavior of jazz musicians. We remain, as P. Campbell states, enthusiastic regarding the music, while not necessarily pleased by the personal behavior of our heroes. However, the same may be said of sports heroes and rock stars, not to mention politicians (except that we are not enthused about either the public or private behavior of the politicians).

I will say that I am not curious about the incident in the taxi as I find, whatever it is, to be irrelevant to the music itself. I read "musical" biographies frequently, but dislike the personal incidents.

Posted on Mar 6, 2012 12:03:49 PM PST
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Rasmus,
I wasn't offended by your remark either. A little surprised maybe would sum up my reaction as it's fairly obvious if you have been checking in to the action on this forum for a while that there is a lot of old fogies like me who have retained their enthusiasm for the music over a very long period, in my case 58 years. Anyway, personally speaking I hope that I never become jaded about the music. That is why I travel to the US as often as I can and in a visit of, say, a month's duration, I will see as many as 80 bands perform live. That hardly would indicate my ever being accused of being jaded. And, I still get as much buzz when I get an autograph as I did when I was aged 16! Right now, I have Cairo Jazz Festival to look forward to later this month and I'm hoping that we get a few good bands in this year. Last year, we had an all female band from Germany and a totally international band, the members of whom all paid their own air fares to fly to Egypt for just two performances. That demonstrated the total commitment of those band members to playing this music that we call jazz. When one experiences that sort of commitment, one can hardly become jaded, can one?

Posted on Mar 7, 2012 4:43:08 AM PST
Susan and Mr. Campbell

I'm relieved to learn that neither of you where offended by my stupid remark.

Mr. Campbell
No, no reason to really be jaded with the abundance of music in all genres being produced these days.

I have a problem with jazz though. When I listen to post 1960 jazz I find it lacks the soul and emotional appeal that attracts me so in jazz from 1940 to 1960.

But I wouldn't call myself jaded - the term jaded for me implies that one is tired of something because of overexposure and I have certainly not been overexposed jazz wise with only about 80 CDs on the shelves --- my everyday music listening contains primarily classical music, then second comes everything that can be labelled as rock n roll (in its widest possible definition) and in third place comes jazz.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2012 4:44:37 AM PST
Art

--- It looks like nobody knows the anecdote that was originally the topic of this thread and that I am the only one who cares, but could you post about it just for me?

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2012 10:55:59 AM PST
Mr. P says:
Paraphrasin.....something very much like....an anecdote of....Miles in back of cab with Parker discussing some topic of music if I recall.....with Bird tootin coke, smokin a blunt, eatin a large deli sandwich while a hooker performed fallatio. Or there abouts.

A search on google would get u the full 411.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 7, 2012 11:03:31 AM PST
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Ahmad says:
Mr. P,
You say "Miles in back of cab, with Bird tootin coke, smokin a blunt, eatin a large deli sandwich while a hooker performed fallatio",
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Parker should have been nicknamed Octupus, not Bird :-)

Posted on Mar 7, 2012 11:47:18 AM PST
Simon says:
From what I read, it's Bird indiscriminately enjoying fried chicken, gin and a lady friend in a cab with a young, shy Miles sitting besides. Kind of funny, really.

Posted on Mar 7, 2012 4:18:23 PM PST
Rasmus,
The majority of posters to this forum, though by no means not all, are primarily jazz enthusiasts. That doesn't mean that they don't appreciate other music. I'm sure most will enjoy a lot of other stuff. When it comes down to the various genres of music, you don't have to necessarily have jazz at the top of your pecking order to contribute or learn something from these threads. We're all individuals with our own particular taste and thank goodness for that. As for me, I sing a lot of church music including a few gospel songs and spirituals and in an a capella choir where we do a very wide ranging repertoire spread across several centuries. I'd love to sing jazz but there just isn't too many opportunities here (Egypt). As for classical music, there is quite a lot that I like but my vinyl collection of classical stuff is unfortunately in store in England so I rarely get to play any of it. But, I do attend live classical orchestral performances from time to time at the Cairo Opera House and have a couple of musician friends who play in the Cairo Symphony Orchestra. One of those, a viola player, is quite a jazz fan and loves to improvise (so I'm reliably informed). I don't know how catholic the tastes of every contributor to this forum are but from previous posts, I know that many do have a great appreciation of other genres. So, you are by no means in a minority with your expressed preferences.

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2012 10:43:59 AM PDT
Mr. Campbell

Yes, I have noticed at least some other fans of classical music in this forum. Even though I don't know a lot about jazz and it shows I have always felt welcome here. I guess jazz people aren't snobs...

In reply to an earlier post on Mar 11, 2012 10:44:34 AM PDT
Simon and Mr. P.

Thank you both for clearing up what this thread was actually about!

Posted on Mar 12, 2012 8:34:24 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Mar 12, 2012 8:39:45 AM PDT
EarlRandy says:
<<Art Johnson says: what was up with that part? Disturbing. I just re-read the book after having forgotten most of it and that part struck me as utterly bizarre. >>

I haven't read the book, only the explanation in this thread. That said, I don't see anything *wrong* with what took place. Isn't that the modus operandi for every successful musician of the last century or two? Maybe forever? The saying "sex, drugs, and rock and roll" wasn't created in a vacuum. That's what they do. Well that, and occasionally the more talented musicians will produce some fine music.
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