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Initial post: Nov 14, 2010 4:05:54 PM PST
Adrian says:
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Posted on Nov 17, 2010 4:23:33 AM PST
Adrian says:
Who can spread eternal life to people. is it Soros, are there other people. is the new israel orthodox Church? I don't know.
What I know is that humankind is thirsty for salvation, that is eternal life and Heaven.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2010 8:04:27 AM PST
MOISHE says:
Is this another so-called "only church", if you don't espouse their belief you're doomed for eternity?
Adrian, how do you know that the Eastern Orthodox Church is the only one in heaven? Your statement leads one to believe that you've been there and back and know from 1st hand expeience. I find your whole 5 min. dissertation ludicrous and unbelievable! End of discussion.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 19, 2010 12:05:35 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
Soros? George Soros?

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2010 2:43:28 AM PST
Sarah says:
SK, you want a dialog with Adrian? Adrian? He is incapable of dialog. He can only be stimulated, like an automated program, to new nonsense rants of the sort Edwin Axton correctly characterizes as ludicrous and unbelievable.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 20, 2010 8:43:32 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 20, 2010 8:43:53 PM PST
S. Kessler says:
Sarah's post: SK, you want a dialog with Adrian? Adrian? He is incapable of dialog. He can only be stimulated, like an automated program, to new nonsense rants of the sort Edwin Axton correctly characterizes as ludicrous and unbelievable.

SK: No, Sarah. My question to Adrian was purely rhetorical. I've been reading his nonsense without posting for quite a long time now. Every once in a while, I just need to express myself. Like having a build up of gas I need to get rid of, you know? ;-D

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2010 5:20:52 AM PST
Sarah says:
Understandable.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2010 10:06:51 AM PST
MOISHE says:
Thanks Sarah, I'm not wasting any more of my time on a "closed and wasted mind" that is merely seeking positive reinforcement of a decision or choice that he obviously realizes is not the path to truth but is too smitten w/self to seek the truth for fear of discouvering it.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2010 2:38:50 PM PST
Sarah says:
Aptly phrased, Edwin Axton. Desperation does seem to tinge his fantasies. "Teachings of Apostles reconstructed from 1 billion historical documents"! A human mind that must have once harbored potential wastes itself on drivel. Pitiful.

Posted on Nov 21, 2010 5:23:21 PM PST
Lev says:
Adrian,

Nobody here cares about what you are saying.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2010 6:30:01 PM PST
MOISHE says:
You're a wise lady Sarah, have a great Thanksgiving and Happy Chanukah!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 21, 2010 6:33:30 PM PST
Sarah says:
Why, thank you, Edwin Axton, on all three counts - the compliment and the holidays - and the same to you.

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 11:53:33 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 26, 2010 11:59:18 AM PST
Adrian says:
ONLY OLD TESTAMENT people received the column of light in desert. Didn't happen to babyloneans, egyptians, assirians, medes.
Today only Eastern orthodox Church receives the Holy Light from God every year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99xvNIydfvQ
It does not happen to Catholics, Protestant, Muslims, Hindus and such.

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 6:07:51 PM PST
Adrian says:
Ok this is my understanding of religions. more info.

Man was with God and immortal, no need of religion.
Man choosed to know good and evil which we know right now. Somehow in divine justice this meant some , some, some separation from God. Not much but some, and in the sense that God is very close but maybe because of divine justice, God come only if asked to.

So, the man felt felt felt until the water come over the Earth.

We do know about people trying to come closer to God. We know about Adam fasting for 40 days and God taking away from punishment. We know about Abel giving things to God and God accepting them. We know about Enoch keeping a link to God, book of Enoch, and teaching Noah and saving humankind. Some book says Enoch was greately rewarded and actually not dying yet.

Then things went blurred until Abraham that gave something more to God , his son. So Abel gave to God products, Abraham gave his son, so God had on Earth a human that belonged to him. I do believe that this gesture was VERY VERY VERY important to humankind and that God gave many blessings to Abraham.

Now God had a human and he blessed his human, and the people that were raised from this man, his people. Then God , came and appeared as a man to JAcob , his man , fought with him, and gave Jacob the name of Israel, the man that fought with God.

Few people know that God may come even today as a man, between his people of Israelite descent, however maybe of some principle or because of something I don't know does not come forward. Maybe because if God would come forward there would be not bad. I do sincerely believe that if someone of the people of Old Law will ask through prayer for God to come to him in this life and help him, I believe personally that are 85% percent chances for God to come and help him, come as a human as appeared to Jacob. I do believe that even today God is in middle of his people, like a normal man that is part of God and actually God so, try speak nicely with everybody. But maybe I should shut up about this, maybe not. I live in a city with big Jewish population and I believe, OK I can not tell what I believe and whom I believe is what without the risk of being ridiculed. But anyhow. You understand what I mean.

Then God allowed his people to go to Egypt and to fall into slavery. Then we know about Moses that took people out of slavery . Because people of Old Law were his people, God could actually help them actively and we see miracles of God done through Moses, manna and column of Light into desert. Now Moses spoke with God and had a covenant with God.

What this means?

Well I told you about people giving to God and receiving blessings. Now these offerings to God were systematically done and blessings were systematical. I do understand that even first born was offered to God so God the path to God was drastically reduced.

God had some people systematically offered to him so he had more power to intervene in human affairs of his people. More than that, this allowed God to promise Messiah , and more prophets were told city = Bethlehem and date = year 5500 from Creation. Remember, his name is Emanuel that means God is with us. So God , or Word of God or part of God will be born and live human life, and now this was possible because of systematical offerings of people and goods to God done by the Old Covenant.

Immortality was not restored, neither expulsion from Heaven, in my understanding. So possibly everybody direction Sheol with some exceptions Enoch, Elijah. David, direction Sheol, Solomon direction Sheol, Abraham and such..... direction Sheol.

So Word of God was born. Not have in mind the movie from Heaven when the sick angel taking everybody by surprised asked Eve to trust in him and to choose good and evil. Now he took everybody , humans I mean by surprise, and we know what happend and the sick angel obtained dominion over Adam and Eve, because after death direction Sheol that is Kingdom of sick angel so beside darkness , sick angel can do many things there. Now, as a thief, Word of God came and nobody even sick angel was taken by surprise and asked people to trust him since he has immortality. Based on a divine justice because he had been condemned unjustely, he arrives to Sheol as everybody but being unjustelly brought there, through some divine justice he said, now I can take everyone that believes in me out. So Adam, Eve, Abraham , Jeremiah and many were asked, now do you believe in me? Everybody that said yes was taken and out to Jordan for baptism. Youy believe in me, means you are mine and since it was Word of God, thus God people there were God's so they had no place in Sheol.

Same on Earth. People that believed in Word of God were told, wait until injustice happens to me, then I will send Holy Spirit, Genesis 1:2 and then you believed in me, based maybe on divine justice means you are mine that means you have no place in Sheol or Hades or Hell.

Again, in Heaven by surprise sick angel sayd believe in me and people belonged to sick angel. On Earth Word of God said believe in me, and took many by surprise and people that beleived in him belong to God that means to heaven.

Now since people believeing in Word of God belong to God how could God restore immortality and how could human nature come back to Heaven.

Listen here. Through eating death come into World, through eating immortality came into World. Holy Communion from Eastern orthodox Church gives you immortality. CAtholic Church tampered it in my understanding and Protestantism renounced it. GUyyyyyyyyyyyssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whaaattttttttttttt 'rrrrrrrrr uuuuuuuu doingggggg?
Actually this is above humans. Don't cry Argentina... Now how about comming to heaven. Through baptism humans die as descendants of Adam and Eve and die as inheritors of interdiction to Heaven and are reborn of God as sons of God thus inheritors of Heaven. So this was accomplished to everybody that believed in Word of God.

Now there is more. People did baptized themself in the name of deceased and the deceased inherited heaven. I do believe that maybe taking food of immortlity may be done in the name of deceased and such so deceased can inherit immortality.

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 7:15:29 PM PST
Adrian says:
So people have become children of God and now the relation between God and humans is much close.

As children of God Eastern Orthodox Christians had visited Heaven and we have many descriptions from heaven after the description from Adam And Eve.

We see clearly Apostle Paul visiting the Third Heaven in New Testament, we see Word of God asking Christians to call him Father and mnay many many things.

Now asking God to come and visit us are more powerfull, are the cries from a child to a father and God has a bigger role to play in Eastern Orthodox Christianity.

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 7:22:48 PM PST
Well I was decieved by the title.
There seem to be a few steps missing in the opening post.
1) Nature godesses and household godesses predate judaism
2) Polytheism arises due to the varied faces of "God"
3) Monotheism arises with the acendancy of male over female

That took a lot less than 5 minutes and it is just as true!

In reply to an earlier post on Nov 26, 2010 7:26:52 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 26, 2010 7:35:06 PM PST
Adrian says:
Misconceptions:

Hinduism: We move oscilloscopes when praying so we must be the right religion.
Answer: The scope of religion is not to move osciloscopes but to regain immortality and entrance to heaven.

Islam: We don't eat pork and since we have cleaner food we are the right religion.
Answer: The goal of religion is to go back to immortality and to heaven. Before flood nobody ate any flesh so you can not claim they were religiously more advanced even if they did not eat ANY flesh of ANY animal.

Judaism: We see the rules in our books having effect. Aka we respect Old LAW and we get the Earthly blessings like richness to us.
The goal of religion is return to Heaven and Immortality and even if the Earthly blessings are important these are not the goal of religion.

Protestantism: When we call the name of Word of God we drive away demons and this show the truth of our religion.
The goal of religion is not to drive away demons , it is to gain back eternal life and entrance to Heaven. Everybody from every religion can drive away demons using the name of Word of God .

Catholicism: Holy Mother appeared at Fatima and this show us we are the true religion.
God appears to everybody with pure hearth and appered even to Moses in Judaism. The goal of religion is to gain immortality and entrance to heaven and the tampering of Holy Water may made Holy Water smell and green. So tampering of Holy Communion may have undesirable effects.

The column of light that appeared ONLY to Jews in Old TEstament in desert lead them to promised Land , Israel. The Holy Light that appears every year and TODAY to Eastern Orthodox Christians leads HUMANITY to promised Land , Heaven and to TRUE FAITH, that can restore man to immortality and Heaven. Word of God is New Moses that took humanity from the desert of Sheol and moved it to richness of Heaven. movie about Holy light: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99xvNIydfvQ

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 7:30:56 PM PST
Adrian says:
Religion = focus to gaining immortality and entrance to heaven.

Posted on Nov 26, 2010 7:43:44 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Nov 26, 2010 8:11:17 PM PST
Adrian says:
What can we learn more from Bible?
That best way to gain wisdom is not by reading hundreds of books but by asking God through prayer to be wise. Same thing people can ask God to give them a complete overview of all religions and to give them a complete overview about how all people and sick angels and everybody and everyone can be taken away from Sheol or Hell or Hades.

If you think I have not done these things, maybe you can tell me which books are the ones that contain things I am telling about. So, if you wait to do these things 5 minutes later it may be 5 minutes too late for you and family and not understanding things properly bad decisions can be made, so pray right now:

God, please give wisdom to me.
God please make me understand all the religions of Earth .
God please help me understand the way to take people and everybody and everything out of Hell and move them to Heaven and force me to be saved and force me help others and everything to be moved out of Hell to Heaven.

and why not?

God please come to Earth and visit me as you visited Abraham if this is right in your eyes and speak with me and teach me what I need to know and force me do what you believe is right. This movie shows in sequence at 4:53 how a monk was visted by Holy trinity. remember Abraham being visited by God as 3 angels? Today this man was visited by God the Father, Holy Spirit Genesis 1:2 and Word of God Genesis 15:1 . See this movie 4:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFHVhhwgq8

Posted on Nov 29, 2010 5:06:59 PM PST
Adrian says:
Maybe every religious instruction should start with these prayers:

God please force me to salvation and to the best religion for salvation.
God, please give wisdom to me.
God please make me understand all the religions of Earth .
God please help me understand the way to take people and everybody and everything out of Hell and move them to Heaven and force me to be saved and force me help others and everything to be moved out of Hell to Heaven.

Posted on Jan 1, 2011 5:36:25 PM PST
You promise?
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