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In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 10:20:47 AM PDT
jeffesq613 says:
And some of us can pretend that an Orthodox Rabbi really thinks that Reform Judaism is "exciting and wonderful" when all the evidence suggests the opposite is true.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 10:25:26 AM PDT
Jezzie says:
yba, And you probably would, too!! You're such a nice guy! <s>

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:01:12 AM PDT
Emma says:
Beautiful, I think this last part really adds something. I had not heard this story until now :)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:22:20 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
She pushed one too many of my buttons.
I temporarily lost my desire to make dignified responses and apologize to those who were offended by my posts.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:22:47 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
;^)

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:23:45 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Very nice on both your parts.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:26:54 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Thank you, Jezzie!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:27:29 AM PDT
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jeffesq613 says:
My frustration also got the better of me, and I likewise apologize to anyone who was offended. Frankly, my frustration is not really as much with the same poster as yours. It's not the personal insults that bother me as much as the flip-flopping and misrepresentations.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:30:03 AM PDT
yba says:
I will do better than that so all can see and hear it for themselves.
The video is about 15-minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34-1CplYOJ4

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:35:53 AM PDT
yba says:
Jeff, when you read something, it helps not to ad lib. He never said, at any point, and neither did I,that Reform was any of that. When you add words that totally change the meaning of a quote, it no longer becomes a quote.
Ihave giventhat quote now a number of times, I wil do so again so you can see what you did. The quote is "Thank you yba! Yes, I agree! : "The creativity and diversity of American Jewry is exciting and wonderful. Every Jewish community finds its own way of being Jewish. What would you call what you did in changing his words?"
This is what you responded to and changed. It is not what Rabbi Sacks said, I quoted or OMNI posted.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:36:35 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
An oldie but a goodie!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:37:41 AM PDT
yba says:
SHhh! dont tell anyone, I have a rep here. :)
Serious, though, find a way and I will UPS it to you or send it general delivery it to your postal service

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:39:23 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
The song was composed by Ms. Friedman - not performed by her.

The article was published today.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:41:54 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
"A combined 583,000 people identified as Conservative or Reform in this year's study - 80,000 fewer people than a decade ago."

In a NYTimes article published earlier this week, it was stated that the loss was evenly split.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:49:15 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Or, standing on one wobbling leg:

Good things come to those who wait!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 11:50:44 AM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
Sounds yum-a-licious!!

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 12:59:46 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
Yeah, unfortunately he likes to quote Sacks when it suits him.

What inferences can you draw from that sort of behaviour?

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 1:06:49 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
What does this mean?

Is UP a rabbi or not?

[Jun 14, 2012 4:19:21 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky, a Happy Breslover says:
I have no evidence one way or another.

As an Orthodox rabbi I *am* certain he does not consider a Reform convert to be acceptable in an Orthodox shul either to be given an aliyah or to have Sheva Brachos]

Posted on Jun 15, 2012 1:09:01 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
Reminder:

[Jun 13, 2012 4:44:03 PM PDT

jeffesq613 says:

Rabbi Sacks wanted all Jews to work together to support legislation]

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:10:34 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
Is this a failed attempt to promote Jewish Unity?

[Jun 15, 2012 10:15:46 AM PDT

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jeffesq613 says:

Please provide the context of each quotation and any evidence that Rabbi Sacks was voicing approval for Reform Judaism. We have seen enough quotations from Rabbi Sacks as well as positions he has taken in his Office to have a clear understanding that he does not in fact think that Reform Judaism is "exciting and wonderful". You, yourself, have acknowledged this several times, and yet you seem to remain adamant in misrepresenting Rabbi Sacks in that regard.]

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:12:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 15, 2012 4:07:26 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
UP, how is it that you ever got the idea that you and your wife can insult people freely without consequences?

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:14:12 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
Thank you jeff.

I accept your apology.

[Jun 15, 2012 11:27:29 AM PDT
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jeffesq613 says:

My frustration also got the better of me, and I likewise apologize to anyone who was offended. ]

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:37:38 PM PDT
Omnireader says:
UP, I accept your apology.

Thank you.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 1:55:16 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jun 15, 2012 1:59:54 PM PDT
Uncle Pinky says:
I shall reword my statement so as to be obvious:

I am certain that R' Sacks, as an Orthodox rabbi, does not consider a convert to Reform Judaism to be acceptable as a Jew in an Orthodox shul.
This would include being given an aliyah, having Sheva Brachos, counting in a minyan, or being shliach tzibbur.

To be absolutely clear: I am not a rabbi.

In reply to an earlier post on Jun 15, 2012 2:28:47 PM PDT
yba says:
I try not to for obvious reasons.
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