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In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 7:30:19 AM PDT
Pink Kitty says:
I agree... there are other books that are way less than the silly $14.99 or more price.

So....until things are less than the paperbacks & many hardbacks, buy the less pricy books. Many of them are good, but we do get to read a sample so we can decide what to spend our $$ on.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 7:15:01 AM PDT
You're the most recent in a long line of people to say this. Don't hold your breath.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 6:49:23 AM PDT
Vigolo says:
Why would you want that? One reason I buy kindle is because I dont want a hard copy.

In reply to an earlier post on May 17, 2012 5:25:44 AM PDT
Bud128 says:
Cynthia;

Fair to who? Certainly not the author. Fair to people who do not want a hard copy?

Sounds more like you just want something for nothing, rather than being fair.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 10:13:30 PM PDT
IF YOU buy the Hard cover book any of them, it should come with a free download...there is no printing costs!!! It would make me want to buy more books for my library!

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 10:11:06 PM PDT
I woul'dnt mide paying higher cost to read a book if it came with a perk...I don't know how or why no one has thought of...if you buy the download it also comes with a physical book...if you buy a book you get a FREE download of it...it seems only fair!

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 9:15:05 PM PDT
Stant Litore says:
@ScottBooks, I didn't think pricing in the past was that relevant. But as I told CLS10, I stand corrected. I didn't realize the issue was as prevalent as he/she has shown it to be. As I mentioned, I have rarely encountered the higher prices myself on non-agency priced books, but that's sample bias ... it's not really evidence.

Thanks for educating me!

Stant

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 7:06:47 PM PDT
@Stant

What CLS10 says is true. There were many many reader complaints about books being priced over $9.99 when they first came out. Amazon didn't lower the prices on them until they made the NYT Bestseller list. The original "Boycott $9.99" thread from January 2nd 2009 was started over a book that had yet to be declared a "Bestseller" and was priced at $12.99.

Why are you looking at current pricing when CLS10 is clearly referencing pre-Agency Model activities?

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 5:11:15 PM PDT
"I find the original list price particularly odd, and wonder what the backstory on this one is."

We already explained it. CLS mentioned it's not from an agency publisher, and I already explained how publishers on the wholesale model almost always set the list price for the ebook the same as the hardcover.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 5:09:36 PM PDT
"@Robin: If you look at my posts, I'm speaking specifically about Kindle e-book prices, not hardcover or paperback. I would expect hardcovers to be priced above $9.99."

Uh yeah, so was I. But when talking about ebook price you have to relate it to which paper format is being released. When a new book is released as a hardcover the ebook is going to be priced differently than if it's a mass market original. And if a book was originally released as a hardcover, but then later a mass market edition comes out, the price of the ebook will drop accordingly.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 8:13:25 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 16, 2012 8:28:44 AM PDT
Stant Litore says:
@CLS10 - I agree with some of that. I said "abhorrent" because an e-book costs very little to produce and distribute, as opposed to a print edition. It costs the publisher less, for instance, than a mass market paperback. It costs less to make, and consumers want to pay less. "Abhorrent" may be too strong a word...

You're right that we need a happy medium between publisher price and consumer demand, and the market will (or would) drive that. If the Department of Justice is correct and the Big 6 have colluded in fixing prices, then the Big 6 are stalling this trend and isolating their prices from market pressures. So that happy medium may be a while yet.

Midlist authors actually make less on books priced that high, because they sell fewer copies. So it isn't a happy medium between publishers/authors and consumers, but simply between publishers and consumers. Except for bestsellers, consumers are voting with their wallets; revenue from royalties has suffered for many authors under high e-book prices.

Stant

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 7:58:32 AM PDT
CLS10 says:
I don't know if I agree with "abhorrent". For example, if the digital list is $17, what's the print list? Usually, I've seen the digital list be a few dollars less than print list--and, I'd think that the print differential accounts for the lack of actual printing/binding and physical storage. But, all other costs of making the books (the author, the editors, marketing, digital storage/bandwith) are still there, despite the fact that it's an ebooks.

To be sure, I have no REAL problem with the books prices. Books/ebooks are a luxury item (right or wrong) so I can't find it within myself to get up in arms about it. Like any luxury item, I pick and choose depending on its price AND worth to me. I have paid $14.99 for an ebooks w/o a blink; I have [Big 6] $13.99+ books on preorder right now.

All that said, I think that there is a happy medium between the publishers/authors and the consumer. Both have to make some compromises--the publishers in adapting to this new era of readership and the consumer for seemingly wanting rock bottom prices without regard to all of the work that goes into it just because it's a digital file.

Posted on May 16, 2012 7:02:09 AM PDT
Stant Litore says:
CLS10: Well, I stand corrected. Certainly a $17 price tag on a digital edition is abhorrent.

In reply to an earlier post on May 16, 2012 1:05:55 AM PDT
CLS10:
Most of the fantasy or general fiction pre-orders I have made over the last year, have been over 9.99; closer to 12.99-14.99. The only pre-orders I have that are typically under these prices are for some of the urban fantasy authors I enjoy.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 9:29:02 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 15, 2012 9:30:46 PM PDT
CLS10 says:
It's actually easy to find novels over 9.99, particularly preorders.

Death's Door (Billy Boyle World War II Myste)
Sly Fox: A Dani Fox Novel
Spy Mom: The Adventures of Sally Sin
Say Nice Things About Detroit: A Novel
The Caller: An Inspector Sejer Mystery

Etc etc. all of these books are fiction novels with above 9.99 pricing and from well known publishers in some cases (Hyperion, Houghton Milffin Harcourt). As Robin (and I) mention earlier, even before the agency model prices like these were the norm for big 6 books for preorder/their initial release. Once they made the NYT best seller lists they went down.

Not every book can be priced at 9.99 bc it's not sound to take a loss on every novel. Those Billy Boyle books, for instance, can take ages to go down in price.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 9:26:29 PM PDT
you are right Jann. for me i have found a book going for $25 while the paperback was about $9. this is unreasonable. if anything, it should be the other way round! i have made a resolution not to buy such a book!

Posted on May 15, 2012 8:38:37 PM PDT
Stant Litore says:
@CLS10 - Actually, that one's an anthology. Anthology pricing is almost always above $9.99, and known to be. It's novels that are rare to find over that price.

Stant

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 7:31:09 PM PDT
CLS10 says:
Another example:

Thriller 3: Love Is Murder, currently a 12.97 amazon priced preorder. I wouldn't be surprised if, after its release in 2 weeks, the price goes down to 9.99 if it becomes a nyt bestseller.

Posted on May 15, 2012 7:23:57 PM PDT
GreyDay says:
Most of my ebook purchases were of old MM paperbacks that I have been rebuying. Pre Agency Amazon had most of those for $6.39 or less. Post Agency they increased to $7.99 or more and I stopped buying them. I liked Amazon's prices a lot better than the big publisher's. I certainly won't pay Agency prices for a 20 year old paperback I already have a copy of. Replacing one wouldn't be a problem but one is of no use to me. I have eleven boxes and three bookcases left. If I can't afford to replace them all there's no point in replacing any. I have always been very happy with the prices Amazon sets for their products when they are given a choice and I can't wait until they are able to do so again.

Posted on May 15, 2012 12:18:19 PM PDT
Stant Litore says:
She meant that it's against the forum rules and TOS to promote your own products in any forum other than the Authors Forum.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 11:59:02 AM PDT
Not only is it tacky, but it is against the TOS to promote your books in this forum. Please delete your post.

See, guys? Give them an inch, they take $9.99 miles.

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In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 9:31:37 AM PDT
Please remove your link. It's against TOS and will likely get you in hot water with the readers here.

In reply to an earlier post on May 15, 2012 9:31:06 AM PDT
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