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Initial post: Jul 6, 2012 5:45:07 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 3:25:40 AM PDT
Alina says:
I'll play.

One thing that impressed me about World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War was its opening of a doctor trying to understand a patient with an unidentifiable disorder. If zombies really attacked, people wouldn't say "OMG, it's obviously a zombie and we know what they do, barricade the doors, cache the weapons". They'd be pretty dumb in their response in that they'd try to understand what was going on by comparing it to their normal frame of reference. Shaun of the Dead was good at depicting this too, e.g. the first zombie they encounter they presume is drunk. So I think well handled "realisation" scenes are always good in zombie books. In fact I think one the strengths of your book was the depiction of general confusion as a result of zombies turning up.

I also like "hard-choice" scenes. If you had to abandon your house would you leave your pets behind or risk your life trying to round them up? would you be prepared to become a cannibal in extreme conditions? (in Miracle In The Andes: 72 Days on the Mountain and My Long Trek Home the author notes that some people who survived the plane crash subsequently died of starvation and disheartenment because they literally could not bring themselves to eat another human being - others could), would you be prepared to kill your zombiefied relatives? (I note that the tv show The Walking Dead: Season One has many subplots related to this issue. And the drama of these scenes I think is related to the fact that, in our heart of hearts, we don't know whether we'd personally have what it takes to survive.

And what would our post-zombie attack world look like? Probably pretty much like our current world looks - some impressive co-operation and altruism and community mindedness that heartens us, some incredible heroism that inspires us, some incredible b*st*rdry and the exercise of indifferent self-interested power that angers us and some general arseholery that frustrates us. But who would prevail and would it differ in different communities (I can almost guarantee it would - read accounts of the different behaviours of English and Australian POWs in Japan and what effect that had on their survival rates for examples).

Hope this helps.

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 5:47:32 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 6:12:17 AM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 6:47:31 AM PDT
Well said, Alina!
One of my favorite zombie scenes comes from Dead of Night: A Zombie Novel. An undertaker is beginning his preparation on a man who was just executed in prison. He unzips the body bag and begins his work and then the body sits up. What made many scenes in this book memorable was the fact that this particular zombie has his own POV. He is still conscious and doesn't understand what is going on. I thought it was very cool and imaginative how this was pulled off in the story and this book cemented me as a Jonathan Maberry fan.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 6:52:02 AM PDT
Alina says:
Yes, I liked the way that you know that trouble is coming in 28 Days Later when you see the rats fleeing before the zombies.

And that's another decision you have to make with zombies - are they slow, are they fast, are they reanimated dead or altered living, etc. I don't think you necessarily have to provide a good backstory for why the zombies turn up but I have read some ingenious ones, including nanobots that were developed to hunt down and repair medical conditions but went rogue (and they are literally inventing that stuff as we speak). In that case the zombies were basically hosts to the nanobots who were motivated to colonise more humans to survive so they weren't technically reanimated dead though they could keep going after they were dead. I think that reanimated dead are especially creepy because you have the horror factor but I don't mind if the zombies are just pure evil instead as long as they're trying to "get" people. I don't mind a plot that stays away from all of that stuff and just has the reader accept that something really weird must have happened and now there's zombies.

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 9:13:03 AM PDT
Alina says:
Holy s-word. We've been targetted by a concerted attack designed to silence us. Who could they be? Zombie fans who really hate spoilers?

When is amazon going to unanonymise the voting system so that people have to put their names to their downvotes so as to reduce the amount of craven cowardliness in the world? Seriously you people, if you have the courage of your convictions then reveal yourselves. All of the fights worth fighting in history came about due to people willing to stand up for what they believed in. Don't you believe in the legitimacy of your downvoting? Then make a stand. Proudly shout "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore, I'm downvoting Splinker and Alina and Charlene and I know that history will judge me as having right on my side". Wouldn't it be better to assert your dignity than have people feel sorry for you?

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 9:45:52 AM PDT
Splinker says:
I bet it is the Umbrella Corporation.

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 1:21:46 PM PDT
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In reply to an earlier post on Jul 7, 2012 2:54:55 PM PDT
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I like both of those movies as well, Mara. : )

Now I want a Twinkie.

Posted on Jul 7, 2012 3:37:39 PM PDT
Splinker says:
I read a short story once by an indie about a guy who kept his zombie father around to collect on social security. That was pretty funny.

Posted on Dec 1, 2012 10:06:25 AM PST
I loved the Zombie Fallout series. And the Zomblog series too.

Posted on Dec 1, 2012 4:14:20 PM PST
Am curious about the dv trend here... 9 people said that adding to the zombie thread with zombie books that I liked was not helpful. Why? Is there something I'm missing?

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 1, 2012 4:57:11 PM PST
Splinker says:
The Amazon Review Mafia hates zombies and children.

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 1, 2012 5:44:10 PM PST
Amazed Grace says:
Charlene - I just started watching Walking Dead and really like it. I am on a zombie kick and would love to read a good book. Your recommendations are always spot on...so tell me a great zombie book. Please and thanks!

Posted on Dec 1, 2012 5:51:04 PM PST
Another good series is Living With the Dead: With Spring Comes the Fall (Book 1)

Posted on Dec 17, 2012 12:34:00 PM PST
Hastur says:
One of the best zombie series I have read is Domain of the Dead by Iain McKinnion, and another really good one is Grave New World by S. P. Blackmore.

Posted on Dec 22, 2012 12:06:30 PM PST
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