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Initial post: Jan 23, 2013 5:26:10 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 6:02:58 AM PST
If people read your book and like it (or dislike it) and post reviews you'll get them. My guess is that coming in here begging for people to help you with reviews is going to backfire on you. I certainly hope it does.

As a reader I'd like reviews to be spontaneous. They're a way for readers to express their opinions about what they read. You're asking for help with polluting that. User reviews are not a marketing tool for your use.

And yes I do realize that much of that is done but it's regrettable and I really do resent you're asking us to help you spoil the user review system.

Barry

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 6:07:23 AM PST
OK Barry, enough said...understood. How do I delete my question btw? Or if you are the forum manager, then I guess you can delete. Sorry to bother here.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 6:08:47 AM PST
ok, I see we can delete our own...I did. Take care and sorry to bother everyone

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 6:35:46 AM PST
Dan, you might want to head over to the Meet Our Authors forum, where you will find other authors with helpful advice for you to assist you in ethically and productively marketing your book. Scroll down to the most active customers discussion list. You will find a link there.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 7:18:15 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 23, 2013 7:54:30 AM PST
Dan, here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/forum/meet%20our%20authors . Frankly, I have my doubts as to how much help it will be in promoting your book but you need to research ways to promote it and reading comments from other authors and readers will certainly help you get ideas.

PS. After posting, I clicked your name and found the link to your website. I stand by my advice to new writers but I apologize for preaching to you. You're obviously a talented and experienced cartoonist and illustrator and have much better current contacts in the industry than I do. Unfortunately the Amazon customer forums don't offer much of an opportunity to attract reviewers.

There are other, much better ways to actually promote your book and to get genuine reviews but I have a few basic suggestions before you even start.

1. Your product description/book information is one of the most important tools you have. It should be well-written, interesting and informative. It's an invaluable "hook" to get readers and reviewers interested enough to even take the time to look at your book. Also, set up an author page on Amazon and elsewhere. Include interesting info about yourself and your writing. If you have a blog, Facebook page, etc., include links.

2. Has your book been professionally edited and proof-read? If not, stop here! If you want to be successful, you need to do this and should withdraw your book until you've done so. A good editor isn't a just a proofreader. He should mark up errors in usage and grammar, make suggestions for re-writes and advise you whether he thinks your book is ready for publication. Some editors will also help with re-writes for an additional fee. Re-writes are important and most authors spend much more time on re-writes than on their first draft. A professional editor will probably also have suggestions for ways to promote your book, where to submit it for review and, perhaps, how to get a literary agent and submit it to publishing houses, if it's good enough and if you're interested.

I support new writers and wish you every success but I, for one, will never read your book beyond the first few pages, even if it's free, unless it's been professionally edited and is worthy of publication. You probably can't judge this for yourself. Most writers can't and need independent, professional advice. It may seem cruel but if you release a piece of self-published "junk", I'll most likely remember and will probably not give you a second chance.

Best wishes! I hope your book is great and you sell a million copies.

Posted on Jan 23, 2013 7:58:52 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 23, 2013 8:34:29 AM PST
James S. and K. Rowley, I certainly have appreciated your guidance, it means alot. As a proverbial newbie in self-publishing, your responses are great. I'll go there and digest some of the information. I've illustrated books for many Pearson Education publishing units around the globe, and some book covers for McGraw-Hill but decided to venture out on this "self-publishing" and give it a try. Not a simple as one would think, not to mention that the self promotion aspect is probably one of the more important aspects to all of this if you want to actually sell your work. In the old days, I used to get my panels published in Saturday Evening Post, Reader's Digest and the like, so realized my material did have an "appeal". Thank you again for your helpful input.
Dan

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 8:35:50 AM PST
Misdirected M: I am doing just that! You're fantastic!
Dan

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 9:03:54 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 9:07:25 AM PST
fantastic to know, K., is yours done digitally or manually? Many people use CS6 to tweak but myself, I haven't took the leap past PS6.0 yet! One guy I know uses version 4.0 to illustrate magazine covers and does it with a mouse!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 23, 2013 9:33:04 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 26, 2013 10:06:33 PM PST
Allison says:
Contacting book blogs and offering it to them for review is also a good way to do it. Just find ones that fit your genre and ask them if they would be interested (meaning send them the info and the offer without sending the book because presumptuousness means they probably won't review it!)

Posted on Jan 26, 2013 10:21:07 PM PST
Marion Stein says:
The Indie View blog has a listing of blogs that do reviews. Might be a good place to start. Unfortunately, with soooo many self-published books it's getting harder to get those reviews. With my new one, it felt almost like submitting to agents, and even less productive.

Posted on Jan 27, 2013 3:00:50 AM PST
Irish reader says:
Dude, reviews are SO yesterday. They've lost all credibility with the discerning public. Glowing, 'I just couldn't put it down' five star reviews. Negative one-star reviews. And unfortunately, pretty much anything in between. Ditto for social media - the consensus is that people participate on social media platforms (such as this one) simply to interact with others. They are NOT in 'buying' mode. Blogs? There are some very good blogs by self-published authors, but none have ever made me feel even slightly compelled to buy their work. Ditto for any form of self-promotion. I don't really care what an author's like. Just if his/her book is any good.

So where does that leave you? Dunno. You could try focussing on blogs specifically set up by readers who happen to like the genre in which you work, not so much in the hopes of getting a review (that's not going to happen) but simply to get your name out there.

Just my two cents' worth.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 5:30:08 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 27, 2013 5:33:22 AM PST
Irish Reader:
Your two cents are worth more to me. I appreciate that in-put. I've recently begun to understand exactly what you said. Getting "reviewed" per se, has no bearing over getting your new book visibility. So I am focusing on just that....visibilty. One thing you mentioned was blogs or sites with a focus similar to what the "book" is about. As an illustrator, it dawned on me to show it on sites like this one, which I was grateful they acknowledged my "news release"...it's Little Chimp Society, which goes out to illustrators, art directors, graphic designers, artists, cartoonists and editors and so forth. An ideal first start for building a "platform" so-to-speak. They ran my release almost immediately:
http://www.thelittlechimpsociety.com/2013/01/dan-rosandich-funny-cartoons-for-the-entire-family/

So this is actually where my focus lies. As you say, "reviews" for what they're worth are just that: "what they're worth". Actually an ancillary viewpoint to what you're really doing. Do they add creedence? Who knows...I don't care....I Facebooked it, I have it on LinkedIn, and did the Squidoo page including profiled it on my Blogspot site....not to mention Tweeted it and found one unique aspect that's actually FREE. I signed up with a press release site called PRLog. The cool thing about them is they offer you "free" option and a paid "premium" option. To test my membership, I took out a free press release and it went live about one hour after I submitted my information, and even with a free shot, they allow you a small image icon of your product or whatever it is you're promoting. Keep in mind, there are keywords associated with your book, name or title of your book etc. All of these words can be incorporated into the setting up of your release. In fact, PRLog releases ALL get spidered and indexed by the big search engines almost immediately....so a lowly press release via PRLog can turn into a good promotional vehicle in the long run. My release through them is here:

http://www.prlog.org/12065590-cartoon-collection-available-in-new-ebook-by-dan-rosandich.html

I've also been accepted into the fold by the folks at GoodReads and just was accepted by Amazon's author page program which I have been tweaking and fine tuning. And it just so happens I am in the midst of stripping down and rebuilding my own web cartoon catalog using a new web editor that looks very condusive to search engine optimization whereby I can see this special "Amazon Authors" co-op page in my mind's eye but need to lay it out better but foresee something like that as a unique tool and additional vehicle in getting fellow cartoonists, illustrators and authors to sign up on and then I'd profile their books in exchange for reciprocal linking on their social media...much to do, plan and look into but your two cents have been worth alot more to me than you think and see your input as a greater positive than a negative. If you have specific questions regarding PRLog and what else they offer, just email me directly....I'd be happy to offer you information and input. Keep looking forward and staying positive and above and beyond everything else, don't stop laughing!

Posted on Jan 27, 2013 6:19:33 AM PST
Irish reader says:
That was very informative, Dan. I hope all your hard work pays off!

Posted on Jan 27, 2013 7:02:38 AM PST
Marion Stein says:
I wouldn't be completely dismissive of reviews. Well-written reviews can tell a reader enough about a book to give him or her an idea about whether or not it might be worth it for them to look at a sample. Despite the healthy skepticism in the forum, a bunch of reviews (especially if they don't all say exactly the same thing) is an indication that others have purchased the book, which helps encourage sales. Some reviewers on Amazon have higher visibility and review rankings then others.

Part of the reason that consumer reviews "feel" so important to SP authors is that they are free (no eye-rolling please). An SP author is either doing everything himself, relying on the kindness of others, or paying for services and can't expect to make much back, so paying for publicity services may feel foolhardy. Reviews are therefore a very cost-effective form of "buzz." Also since few mainstream reviewers will touch SP books, consumer reviews are one of the few resources open to SP authors.

It's hard to convince consumers that they "should" write reviews of SP books, especially the good ones -- that they can be a part of movement, a change in how publishing gets done. It's true they don't "owe" writers anything. However, given all the disdain (that still exists) for SP books, if you come across a good one, telling people about it in a review is a great way to encourage the writer, to let him or her know that even if he or she isn't reaching any bestseller list, he or she is succeeding in connecting with readers and putting out quality work.

Posted on Jan 27, 2013 8:03:10 AM PST
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Posted on Jan 27, 2013 8:13:30 AM PST
Last edited by the author on Jan 27, 2013 8:15:43 AM PST
I did like the concept of SP books so had to try it....I mean, Stephen King is even taking advantage of the concept (at least for Kindle) with his newest realease of Guns this morning. And all of the "buzz" revolving around it's becoming the "new" thing (sp I mean!). I understand your points ISBW....good thought-provoking comment. Years ago I published a regional comic book. Waaaay befor the popularity of the net. I had to pay a print shop such and such an amount for transparancies, laying it out, and then take all that physically to a publishing house, with original physical watercolor art for the cover design and sit for hours showing them how to lay it all out, and then drive a state back home for many hours of gas and costs besides that. After the 20,000 comic books were published, I needed to pay a shipping company a specific amount to delivery to my door, Helped him unload all the books one morning in a blizzard...I can't recall how many pallets but then finding vendors, paying for fuel to go find those vendors, setting up a list to keep track of what vendors took the product into their store....found out some would only consign it at the traditional 33.3% markup price etc. A complete and total logistic nightmare. This was all "pre-internet"...NOW I can appreciate the SP concept!
My self-pub of the comic books goes more in depth, but that type of publishing is no longer for me...setting up interviews, book signings etc. Veritable nightmare! So I hear you!

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 9:56:54 AM PST
I find reviews helpful. The difference is that I rely on reviews from friends I know and follow on GR. If I am looking @ a book & it has gotten a good (or even pretty good) review from someone I know and trust, I'll buy it in a heartbeat.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 10:58:22 AM PST
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In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 3:32:27 PM PST
I'm realizing there is a symbionic relationship to promoting and reviews and vice versa. Your feedback has made me conclude that instead of initially coming here and begging, it's best to come here and "tell". By that I mean, how I promote....in order to get that ubiquitos review, the book needs to get seen and purchased in order for the next thing to happen. Glad I could assist your decision making process regarding the recent Stephen King....that is great! If I recall, his latest Guns is selling for just under a buck (25 pages?) but then again someone as prolific as him and who has an ability to write via a concious stream of thoughts, seems easy for him I bet.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 3:37:57 PM PST
Scamp says:
Lots of self-promotion in your outside links to publicity for your books. Please don't do this here.

This conversation belongs in the MOA. Really, it does.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 27, 2013 3:44:09 PM PST
Yes, let's close this discusssion down. I'm done and outta here. Good luck to everyone in this wacky biz!
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