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Initial post: Aug 30, 2012 12:31:14 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 12:32:19 AM PDT
Matthew Fish says:
I just wanted to get some thoughts on what people found overly cliché in fiction, events that would make you generally hate the entire work.

My own pet peeves are: endings that invovle all of the events being a dream, or the main character's memory being erased and returned to his/her normal life. Basically, anything that makes the entire story that leads up to the ending pointless.

Something I'd like to see (But probably never will, if it exists...someone please point me to a book that does this): Antagonist dies unexpectly in the story due to natural causes-heart attack, hit by a bus, brain aneurysm...etc. I'd like to see this especially near the end, gearing up for that last battle or final confrontation-only to find out they are already dead. Might be a terrible idea, actually...

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 12:55:52 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 12:56:19 PM PDT
I hate it when one of the main characters is pretending to be someone else. Fooling everyone.
Even when there's been countless clues that should make it extremely obvious (to even a moron) who they really are. Naturally the other main character never suspects a thing.

The only good thing about those books (to me) was the satisfying sound they made when they hit the wall.
That was before I switched from paperbacks to a kindle, of course. : )

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:22:44 AM PDT
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Posted on Aug 30, 2012 1:40:14 AM PDT
Old Rocker says:
I hate books where the hero has the body of an Adonis and has sex seven times a day. Its just not natural or believeable.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:50:29 AM PDT
Matthew Fish says:
I bet the Kindle makes a spectacular noise when it is flung against a wall. I'd love to see a repair request like-"I was reading a book that made me feel a little frustrated, kindle accidentally hit wall." It is a pity that just deleting a book you hate isn't more satisfying, it should be accompanied by an epic explosion noise.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 7:15:19 AM PDT
Lol

I may contact Amazon & suggest that they add sound effects to all their kindles.

1) The sound of a book hitting a wall
2) The sound of a page turning each time we push the ' >' button
3) The sound of a book being slammed shut
4) The sound of a book being ripped into little pieces

Maybe they could even add some:
Gasps
Booing & hissing
Yawns
OMGs
Applauding
and so on .....

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 7:30:26 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 11:48:03 AM PDT
Sires says:
I read a paranormal romance mystery-- a rather popular one in fact-- where the mystery was prominent (if not front and center) for most of the book then it is solved by introducing an entirely new character as the murderer in the wrap up chapter. If I hadn't been listening to it on my iPhone it would have hit the wall.

A romantic suspense novel did something nearly as bad. In the wrap up chapter information was revealed that had not been available to the reader. Oh yeah, forgot to mention the murderer was on the rifle sharpshooter team in high school.

Honestly cannot think of cliches I want more of right now.

Fixed-- sorry I got murdered and murderer mixed up.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 7:35:04 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 12:48:34 PM PDT
Do you remember the titles of those books?
Just so I'll be sure to purchase... ah ...I mean... NOT... to purchase them. ; )

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 7:50:35 AM PDT
Would you believe six times a day?

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 12:37:37 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 12:43:40 PM PDT
Matthew Fish says:
This one is not really book related, but I remember watching spiderman 3 up to the point where the bulter/doctor? was like "Oh yeah, I was there the night your father was killed. I examined his wounds and they were...self inflicted." It was kind of like, you've been blaming your best friend for your father's murder all this time, oh and sorry about getting part of your face blown off before finally telling you the truth. If only I had told you the last movie... I hate when they just add things into the story that completely contradict things that have previously happened. I think that movie was full of things like that. I think I've seen it in a few books I've read as well.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:02:58 PM PDT
That's why it's called fiction. :)

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:08:45 PM PDT
Not necessarily cliche but I hate it when there is a big misunderstanding between characters and they won't talk to each other. This plot line is a cop out as far as I'm concerned and it's used way to often.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:19:57 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
I'd be happy with six times a year.

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 1:24:02 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
Its also difficult to believe the stories where the heroine will fulfill every desire of the hero. Yeah, like when does that happen? Its more like, "You want me to do what? Hahahahahahaha!!1!1!!!!11! You can take those handcuffs and paddle and stick them up your zzz."

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:36:12 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Aug 30, 2012 1:44:39 PM PDT
Maybe it's your approach.
Buy her a big diamond something and 'then' pull out the paddle and handcuffs.
If that doesn't work you could always get her drunk.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:41:49 PM PDT
Psylocide says:
Haha... neither of those work either, unless you've got the bankroll to back it up.

Chloroform does wonders though.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:43:35 PM PDT
I see we have a necrophiliac in the house.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:44:40 PM PDT
Psylocide says:
Who said I killed anybody?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 1:45:56 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
You mean like cash on the night stand?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 3:00:01 PM PDT
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now don't kid me, you Rockin' Stud, you. I know you're up to no good more than six times a year!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 3:43:11 PM PDT
Old Rocker says:
Shhhh don't tell Mrs. Rocker!

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 8:42:06 PM PDT
That would be really interesting if you could add it to reviews.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 30, 2012 8:56:09 PM PDT
Scamp says:
Mostly having to do with mysteries, thrillers, and police procedurals:

- FBI profiler or agent invariably becomes serial killer's target - Okay, it *can* be done well and has been done well, but mostly it's not. It's just a tired plot device mostly.
- Evil twin - Protag is blamed for this and that and the other, but in the end, it was the evil twin.
- More than a lifetime's worth of trials and tribs fall upon protag within the span of weeks - cheap way to keep tension, rather than having fully fleshed characters.
- Convenient romance destined to not work out because the protag's romantic object is (a) the killer, (b) the intended and actual victim, or (c) expendable until the next sequel when "will boy get girl" gets played out once again.

Posted on Aug 30, 2012 9:05:43 PM PDT
Things I hate/am beginning to hate in books.

I like romances, but if I hear how "above average" a guy's equipment is, I think I'm going to scream. And not in a good way.

Vampires. Originally they only loved you for dinner. Get over it.

If the guy's a jerk and then "changes". As if. The magnetic poles have a better chance of changing.

The I love him/her/it scenario, but can't have him/her/it. Briefly used it's an okay plot device, but if the entire plot is made up of this angst it gets really old.

She's pregnant/has a baby, but he loves her anyway. Really? How many guys do you know who willingly do baggage? Yes, it happens, but not as often as you think.

The "big secret" that is so transparent that you figured it out in the second chapter.

General illogic. Particularly about things that could have been taken care of with an hour's worth of research.

Evil scientists. Just way overdone and usually by people who don't know enough science to know what they're talking about.

Large-scale government plots. Do you really think our government is that organized?

I'm sure I'll think of a few more later, but this is a start.

Posted on Sep 1, 2012 9:46:52 AM PDT
GGM says:
My current great gripe is the old "drown in the cellar" gambit.

Please, real people build their cellars in as high a point as possible, real people put an ax in their cellar in case a tree falls on the door, and MOST IMPORTANTLY real people keep an eye on the terrain in case of rising water or get out of the cellar when water starts to rise in the cellar. Don't bring up the old tornado kept me in the hole of water bit either.

There's a myriad of other problems with the old "drown in the cellar" gambit.

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