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Initial post: Jul 10, 2013 5:17:03 PM PDT
Greetings to the Kindle Publishing team...

Just saw the announcement re the new Kindle Publishing Tools, and am trying to wrap my head around the new format, etc. However, I have four ebooks in development in InDesign CC and without an updated version of the Kindle plug in, I am stuck.

Please advise when we can expect an update on the plug in. Many thanks.

Posted on Jul 15, 2013 12:21:06 PM PDT
I would also really like to know when this is going to happen. I'm kinda stuck at the moment, unless I can find an old version of InDesign somewhere.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 15, 2013 12:45:46 PM PDT
JADJones says:
It won't work, I tried it, I tried installing the old installer, and it instantly updates to the new CC version and then I didn't have access to CS6 anymore. So, one would have to down-grade to at least CS4 (pre global installer), by that point a lot of functions that I need wouldn't be available, therefore, we are stuck waiting for Amazon to finish working (assuming that they are working on it) on the plug-in before we can get back to work. This is the second plug-in I've been waiting for since installing the new CC version, I've got one updated (ScribeDOOR)... didn't know I was going to have so much vacation time... I've got a back-log of work piling up until all the plugins are finally in place and working.

Posted on Jul 15, 2013 12:47:02 PM PDT
I just figured out how to get around this.

1) Go to this page:

2) Pick Indesign CS6 from the dropdown, click download.

3) Start the creative cloud installer again, and InDesign CS6 will start installing.

Posted on Jul 15, 2013 4:36:32 PM PDT
JADJones says:
I followed your link, there is not "dropdown" it only gives me the option for CC... ?


Posted on Jul 16, 2013 5:48:18 AM PDT
Walt Shiel says:
Just export epub from ID CC and then use Kindlegen or Kindle Previewer to create the mobi file. We never bother with the Kindle ID plug-in, since we always create both formats for all ebooks. After all, there is ebook life beyond Amazon.

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 16, 2013 12:19:27 PM PDT
Charles says:
That can work fine for simple books Walter such as novels and biographies, but some of the coding for fixed layout books is different between epub and mobi and won't automatically convert properly via KindleGen.


In reply to an earlier post on Jul 24, 2013 6:28:34 PM PDT
JADJones says:
this link will let you download CS6:

In reply to an earlier post on Jul 29, 2013 9:59:17 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 29, 2013 5:16:11 PM PDT
M. Lommel says:
"Just export epub from ID CC and then use Kindlegen or Kindle Previewer to create the mobi file. We never bother with the Kindle ID plug-in, since we always create both formats for all ebooks. After all, there is ebook life beyond Amazon."

Doing that I find tends to not preserve the TOC. Does it for you?

Posted on Jul 30, 2013 3:53:04 PM PDT
Last edited by the author on Jul 30, 2013 3:55:07 PM PDT
I am trying to convert a magazine to kindle - currently pretty and interactive on IPad... but... all the converters I have tried so far garbage up the format. Finally got a small version of the mag as a 17mb pdf completely images and links and it looks and reads fine - but the creator and the uploader convert it to over 90MB - is there any chance that amazon will review the 50mb max file - as it is sooo frustratingly small for a picture rich book - or is there a better commercial piece of software that will keep the size commensurate with the size of the pdf and keeps the links on images... I might add that the HTML converter made a mess of it and was three times larger... would appreciate any ideas - thanks - I am using InDesignCC and the less said about the kindle exporter and epub exporter and that the better - over 200Mb... but it looked pretty

Posted on Jul 31, 2013 6:33:26 PM PDT
Yes, Kindle Team, PLEASE GET THE KINDLE PLUGIN FOR INDESIGN CC DONE ASAP... I have books with TOCs that don't show up in the Kindle GO TO feature. The instructions for manually setting this up are byzantine and I am not a developer! Thanks!

Posted on Aug 15, 2013 4:31:50 AM PDT
JADJones says:
Has anybody heard anything directly from Amazon concerning this plugin upgrade at all? Have they even confirmed that they are indeed working on one for CC?

Posted on Aug 17, 2013 11:05:23 AM PDT
Notjohn says:
Wouldn't it be easier just to stop using InDesign, since it almost never works?

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 18, 2013 2:11:57 AM PDT
JADJones says:
Perhaps for you that may be true, but for me, InDesign is my bread & butter, outputting for Kindle has always been easy for me, it gives me a perfect mobi every time, epub on the other hand... different ball of wax. My clients are looking for print, epub & mobi, so InDesign is what I use. One software, two plugins (kindle & ScribeDOOR) and all my needs are met. I realize it is not so easy for others, I think it really depends on what you are using it for.

Posted on Aug 23, 2013 1:47:34 PM PDT
I'm in your same position, JADJones. I'm still working on CS6, hoping I can move it all over to CC here soon. For the epubs, I use the InDesign epub exporter and then fix them in Sigil.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2013 2:32:58 PM PDT
JADJones says:
I use to use Sigil, but I found that it changed the coding too much, Calibre did the same thing. Now that I'm on a mac I can open and edit and epub with TextWrangler, which is a lot easier than changing .epub to .zip and open it, then change the coding, then zip it up again, then change back to .epub.

I found that it outputs to .epub better in CC. Could be because InDesign CC has really cleaned up its code. It is getting pretty frustrating for me... I've been using iBooks Author the last week, and it's not too bad, but of course no .epub or .mobi... I've got quite the backlog of .mobi's to output.... I'm waiting for the CC plugin because I've switched to mac when the CC changed, I also use ScribeDOOR plugin, and had it for CS6 in Windows.... so I'm kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. I've got CS6 Mac version with the Kindle plugin, but I don't have the ScribeDOOR plugin for mac (for working in Hebrew), so I can only output if I have the file all ready to output... but I can't work in CC because the ScribeDOOR plugin isn't working (can't work in Hebrew, even though that is what it is there for).... I don't mind vacations.... but I'm loosing money here.......

has anybody heard directly from Amazon on the progression of this update?

Posted on Aug 23, 2013 3:09:20 PM PDT
I haven't, no. I'm taking on some help with my formatting business, and basically, I'll have them format in CC, because that's what's available to them, and save in a format I can open in CS6 to make the mobi. It'll be nice to ditch that step.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2013 3:09:36 PM PDT
Charles says:
I don't want to sound like a Jutoh fanatic, but have you looked into it? It works fine on a MAC and does comics and children's books quite well. It outputs ePub and mobi both.

In reply to an earlier post on Aug 23, 2013 3:44:41 PM PDT
JADJones says:
Yeah, I hear ya. I'll be happy when I can start pumping out these puppies again. I've never had problems with the Kindle plugin, going back to CS4 it's worked for me, though this is the longest I've had to wait for them to upgrade, with no response from them... kinda worrying

Posted on Aug 24, 2013 7:41:45 AM PDT
Marisko says:
Yes, I am in the same boat, needing a Kindle Plugin that will work with InDesign CC. I am new to this discussion area. What is the best way to obtain news from Amazon? Thank you.

Posted on Sep 1, 2013 4:12:20 PM PDT
A. Troia says:
For a work around for those needing the TOC link to work in the "Go To.." menu of the Kindle after running the ePub through KindleGen, you will need to unzip the ePub and add a guide item to the guide section of the OPF file for the TOC, then rezip the file as an ePub and run it through KindleGen.

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 1, 2013 4:15:10 PM PDT
JADJones says:
what we really need is an an update on the plugin, but that would be dreaming... not living in a perfect world...

but as to your suggestion, I seem to run into trouble of zipping on the mac, it seems to kill the whole thing, anybody know how I would get around that?

In reply to an earlier post on Sep 1, 2013 4:32:30 PM PDT
A. Troia says:
I agree and I am only offering this as a work around and not as a fix. I normally work from the code on both the ePub and the Mobi files, so I normally just use the terminal to zip/unzip and run KindleGen on my files. That being said, I am also quite familiar with the latest plugin and I hope to see a release for CC.

On a Mac I use four lines in Terminal to zip up ePubs that gets the files in the right order as well as making sure the ePub is valid in ePubCheck:

1. First you need to get to the directory you are wanting to zip up into an ePub by using the 'cd' command along with your folder path:

cd /folder/path/to/your/file/here

2. Then you want to make sure there are no hidden DS_Store files in the folder as the file will not validate if there is one in the ePub:

find . -name '*DS_Store' -type f -delete

3. This starts the ePub zip process and puts the mimetype in the epub file correctly:

zip -0Xq book.epub mimetype

4. This finishes the ePub zip process by putting the rest of the files into the ePub:

zip -Xr9Dq book.epub *

In reply to an earlier post on Oct 15, 2013 10:33:43 AM PDT
Please count my opinion too Kindle Publishing Team - like many others, I really need the export to epub for the CC version too - Michael Grossman

Posted on Nov 1, 2013 9:40:12 AM PDT
David Devere says:
If you've got Indesign CC, then I assume you are Creative Cloud Member, then you can download CS6 and run it separately to convert your files. However if you've designed the entire books in CC then yeah, you're f'ed.
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